Listen: Tommy Robinson a “great admirer” of Douglas Murray


2:06 pm - October 9th 2013

by Sunny Hundal    


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There was a particularly interesting moment this morning when I was asked to debate Tommy Robinson leaving the EDL on BBC 5Live

Presenter Nicky Campbell had spoken to Robinson extensively the day before, and he told us that the ex-EDL leader said he was a great admirer of Douglas Murray.

Robinson went on to say, according to Campbell, that their views were exactly the same but that Douglas Murray was simply more articulate.

Listen below (the full interview from here 2hrs 7m in)

Hearing Douglas Murray’s nervous laughter half way through is a joy.

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I knew Tommy Robinson was extreme but I didn’t realise he was *that* extreme!

2. organic cheeseboard

Funny to see Murray weaseling his way out as well – shifting the ‘debate’ to the ‘global problem’…

Tommy Robinson seems genuine but a bit of an idiot, while Murray is clever but dishonest – IMO.

I’m sure Robinson is a great admirer of Murray’s biography of Bosie.

But don’t you have to be a bit careful in what you say about Douglas Sunny?

6. David Griffiths

So Tommy Robinson is an admirer of Douglas Murray. That just about says it all about both guys.

And Osama bin Laden was a great admirer of Robert Fisk. Does that tell us a great deal about Fisk and his other fans?

8. Matthew Blott (@MatthewBlott)

Well I suppose there isn’t going to be much mileage in the Tommy Robinson Is An Extremist line you seem obsessed with so it makes sense to move onto someone else. Douglas Murray perhaps?

Excellent post – to those who say that far too often there is a whiff of the playground about LC articles, this is just the kind of hard hitting expose we need more of.

why so ambiguous on the first section about homegrown terrorists Sunny? same old drone, poor muslims, going to help with aid etc.
even Campbell had to giggle “all charitable philanthropists eh!”

hearing you obfuscate, now that WAS a joy

11. Bijal Patel

Well there you have it – Tommy Robinson says he agrees with things that Douglas Murray says which therefore automatically must mean Douglas Murray is a hate mongering racist bigot whose views have helped shaped Tommy’s. Quite how you square that circle is beyond me. But of course people such as yourself are not interested in fair debate as demonstrated by this favoured method of the left to silence debate – the good ole smear.

Douglas Murray makes very valid points about the nature of Islam but having an opinion contrary to the Left’s on Islam (or anything else for that matter)opens you up to these farscical attempts at character assasination. How Douglas’s views are rendered null and void or even Islamaphobic because Tommy Robinson agrees with them or has adopted some of them is bewildering.

But have it your way – Douglas Murray is a racist and a bigot because Tommy Robinson endorses his views or has shaped his views because of what Douglas says. But if this is the case surely in the fairness of debate you will also agree that Islamic terrorism, which quotes the Korans holy texts in many instances, is therefore Islamically inspired meaning Islam is indeed directly culpable for much of the violence we see within the Islamic world today?

Thought not. Double speak indeed.

@11

There’s no ifs ands or buts about it, Douglas Murray is a racist and a bigot.

“But if this is the case surely in the fairness of debate you will also agree that Islamic terrorism, which quotes the Korans holy texts in many instances, is therefore Islamically inspired meaning Islam is indeed directly culpable for much of the violence we see within the Islamic world today”?

Terrorists of all stripes quote all sorts of things. What’s your point?

13. Bijal Patel

Reply to post 12

“No ifs and or buts about it – Douglas Murray is a racist and a bigot”

Please provide evidence of said racist views & bigotry please. Of course, you will never be able to do it so you will merely continue to lie & smear as does the author of this blog. If Douglas was a certified racist do you think he would be given a platform on the ultra PC left wing BBC for example? Of course not. What an outrageous charge to make – one with no evidence to substantiate it. As a British Born person of Sri Lankan heritage I have never found anything remotely racist or bigotted about Douglas Murrays very fair, sensible views so I do look forward to being enlightened by your response.

My point about terrorism and Islam is simple, most Islamic terrorism we see today comes wholesale with Koranic citation to justify it and all the rest. Yet the left & all things PC will be at pains to remove any culpability of the religion in influencing these acts. Yet when Tommy Robinson says he agrees with Douglas Murrays views – some how Douglas Murray is culpable for influencing Tommy Robinsons views and actions! We saw the same thing when the Left tried to lay guilt at the door of Robert Spencer because Anders Brevik, a man he had never met or indeed heard of, quoted some of what he says in his manifesto.

The left continually displays such double standards which are just outright laughable! I do hope I made myself clear.

Me, my family and neighbours, everyone down The Three Horseshoes, my dog, and my dog’s fleas are shocked to hear that Tommy Robinson’s an admirer of Douglas Murray. We never for a moment imagined he was such a sensible bloke.

13.
“ultra PC left wing BBC for example”

You are being ironic aren’t you?

16. Bijal Patel

In reply to comment 15

“You are being ironic aren’t you?”

Not at all.

Are you seriously entertaining the notion that the BBC are not politically correct or left wing?

I do hope you are not serious.

@13

“If Douglas was a certified racist do you think he would be given a platform on the ultra PC left wing BBC for example”?

What’s a “certified racist”? As for the BBC being “left-wing” and “ultra PC” (jeez, that’s hilarious), I think you’ve just shown us where you stand on the issue of difference.

18. Bijal Patel

In reply to Buddy Hell

“What’s a “certified racist”? As for the BBC being “left-wing” and “ultra PC” (jeez, that’s hilarious), I think you’ve just shown us where you stand on the issue of difference.”

I can tell you what a certified racist isn’t – Douglas Murray. See, if you care to read the previos posts you will see I was responding to a comment made that said “no if’s or but’s about it – Douglas Murray is a racist”. As if it is not up for debate – i.e. he is clearly racist i.e. well established as a racist i.e. ‘certified’

Do you get it?

I simply asked for such evidence of Murray rhetoric which labels him indisputably racist – I am still waiting – such is the eagerness of the left to smear ala Mehdi Hasan et al they forget the salient point of evidence.

Again – the BBC ARE PC and ARE to the left – they say so themselves.

If you can provide any evidence that Douglas Murray is a racist or that BBC provides fair balanced news coverage I am all ears.

But you won’t be able to do it and you know it.

Murray is eloquent.
You, on the other hand,have a stutter and come across really badly on the radio. Worse on television. I guess the Left is pretty desperate having to rely on you as a spokeperson. Then again you always have Owen Jones…..

Bijal Patel you are the only person speaking sense here. The left’s lies, smears and double standards are reaching breaking point. How much longer can it continue? There’s only so much sand to bury your head into. Tommy Robinson respecting Douglas Murrays views! WOW! Him along with countless others agree with Murray’s views. Mehdi Hasan did this same thing to Douglas Murray on Question time not long ago – Murray simply laughed. It’s so pathetic! It’s obvious that Islam’s countless problems are too hard to defend.


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