Guido Fawkes rails for censorship at the BBC


2:51 pm - April 12th 2013

by Sunny Hundal    


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It was only last week that right-wing libertarian blogger Guido Fawkes was railing against press regulation on the grounds of free speech.

Funny how most of the right-wing media has today decided that censorship at the BBC is a good thing after all.

Here is the frothing blogger today.

So much for his dedication to free speech.

Perhaps his reasoning is best explained by this exchange…

It was only earlier this week I pointed out the hypocrisy of right-wingers when it came to honouring dead people.

It seems some people can’t help themselves…

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On the Guido Fawkes blog comments section you can say what you want about anyone bar one man.Any comment that contains the phrase “Paul Staines” is immediately censored. Go on give it a try!

Where was Guido’s respect when Michael Foot died? He wanted to dance on Foot’s grave.

3. andrew adams

But she’s a grandmother!

I do like the fact that, rather than being a reflection of what people happened to buy, it is a conspiracy – by hard-leftists no less!

Needless to say, I find the idea of celebrating a little distasteful. But I am not going to lose sleep over a harmless act carried out by 0.031% of the British population.

Still, I find it funny that the Beeb feel they have to “contextualise” the song for listeners who are unaware. Just play it and be done, I understand the most popular version is <1 minute long anyway.

This censorship demand from Guido and his fellow righties is yet another example of political correctness gone mad!

That would be the same Paul Staines who is on record as saying: “I don’t have any problem with having raised money to kill communists.” http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/feb/15/guido-fawkes-paul-staines-interview

7. Mediastinum

@ 5

lol brilliant comment! you win the internet today sir.

As I have pointed out time and time again. All libertarians are fake. And the biggest fakes of all are the Thatcherite libertarians of the right wing.

Whether it’s spending millions of tax payers £s on a funeral for someone who spent her whole life railing against state spending. Or tax payed for politicians wasting 2 days making meaningless speeches about how they loved their beloved hypocrite leader Thatch. Boring everybody with tales about how she hated govt waste (They don’t do irony at tory central.)

And I knew it wouldn’t be long before the brownshirt right would be wanting to restrict free speech. They really are the stupidest people in the world.

9. Chaise Guevara

Wait wait wait. Is Guido saying that anything insulting Allah should be banned from the BBC? Seems a bit PC gawn mad.

This article loses all hope of being taken seriously when it calls it a “hard-left campaign”, i.e. four words in. I’m willing to bet that most of the people who downloaded the track are broadly lefty students and grads who just think it’s funny.

Also, why a donkey? I’m honestly wondering why a UK blogger writing about UK politics is using an American symbol.

10. Chaise Guevara

…Although it would be fucking hilarious if Guido was right for once, and the BBC story in its entirety ran: “This song is being played because hate-filled socialists bought it to celebrate the death of a grandmother.”

Guido is often wrong; Guido is also often right. I’m not with him on this one: I couldn’t care less about the track, but I think the BBC should play it without any comment. Who really cares?

Meanwhile, her great legacy will live on. And, according to YouGov’s email today, 52% think she was a great or good PM, while just 30% thought she was a terrible or poor PM….

Eat your heart out Romany Blythe:
http://liberalconspiracy.org/2013/04/11/is-this-the-most-absurd-daily-mail-headline-ever/

I don’t think he is advocating censorship. I assume this is a continuation of his long running campaign to elevate the political discourse.

13. Charlieman

@9. Chaise Guevara: “Also, why a donkey? I’m honestly wondering why a UK blogger writing about UK politics is using an American symbol.”

You should get the cultural references.

The donkey is a jack ass. Looney Left is spelled in US-English, and it is all a parody of Looney Tunes, a Warner Brothers brand.

14. Gallbladder

“Any comment that contains the phrase “Paul Staines” is immediately censored. Go on give it a try!”

Oh. Then it’s a bit like trying to comment Guardian Media Group tax arrangements in the Guardian. Cleaned up right away and bad karma applied to the one who made the comment.

You know, it’s wrong when the wrong people are tax efficient, and it’s right when the right people are tax efficient.

15. Daniel Factor

Ah the good old right-wing hypocrisy when it comes to free speech.

The free speech to spew hatred about immigrants, gays, black people and Muslims. But no free speech to make jokes about the Queen, Christianity and sing songs about a dead Prime Minister.

I’d like to see Paul Staines refer to 20,000 as being mere when it’s 20,000 kicks to his nutsack.

17. Dislecksick

There is a difference between a state broadcaster, paid for by both righties and lefties, playing a song which has been deliberately elevated to upset the grieving relatives and feast on the blood of the dead, and ordinary members of the public being arrested for saying the P word or expressing anti-immigration views in everyday life. The righties aren’t saying ordinary people should be banned from thinking/speaking their thoughts on MT, just that an institution like the Beeb should excercise some tact.]

Therein lies the difference. Celebrating the death of MT is not thought crime, or speech crime. They are not trying to enact laws meaning you lose your job over it, and get sent through the courts for the damage to hurt feelings caused. The left on the other hand want and have partially succeeded in criminalising their opponents vocalising their views.

If you can’t see the difference in this, you’re probably a politically theocratic bigot.

18. Chaise Guevara

@ 17 Dislecksick

“The left on the other hand want and have partially succeeded in criminalising their opponents vocalising their views.”

Um, how so? The only draconian legislation I can think of in this area is anti-hate-speech stuff, and that seems mainly designed to be used against extremist Muslims. If we have to assign that to “the left” or “the right” (and I’d rather not, but apparently it’s the done thing), then I think it falls at the feet of the latter.

As to the censorship thing: agree this isn’t a big deal, but there would be something dodgy about a state broadcaster pretending a song didn’t exists just because of its political position. Specifically because it’s a state broadcaster.

19. Chaise Guevara

@ Charlieman

“You should get the cultural references.

The donkey is a jack ass. Looney Left is spelled in US-English, and it is all a parody of Looney Tunes, a Warner Brothers brand.”

So in other words he’s probably cribbed an image off someone else and not bothered with the fact that it’s supposed to represent US democrats?

20. Dislecksick

@Chaise

I was at a football match V Leicester about 2 years ago. Our fans were singing “You’re going to get your f*****g head kicked in”. The police watching us did nothing. A very thin chant from a small section of the crowd made a chorus of “Your just a bunch of p***s”. The police made 4 arrests, immediately waded in with batons and video tapes rolling for the offenders. People who make racist comments on twitter get sent to jail. It is not just muslim extremists in any way who fall foul of this. I personally don’t like any of these comments, but racist views are now forbidden and illegal effectively and I think this is wrong, however distasteful we may find these views, they are a point of view, subjective, and the only criminal damage they can cause is to people’s feelings.

21. DumbToryNarrative

@Tone:

You quite correctly deserve a kick in the head

tory inbred.

22. DumbToryNarrative

Loonbertarian blogger you mean?

You can always report his website to google/wordpress i believe they don’t take kindly to websites which propagate hate speech.

23. DumbToryNarrative
24. Chaise Guevara

20 Dislecksick

Racist views are not illegal. Racial abuse is. I personally think that the law and its application are OTT in this case, but it’s an important distinction to make.

And I remember when they introduced this legislation, and it was definitely so they had an excuse to jail or deport Muslims who preached hate. The fact that it has been used on non-Muslims does not change the original intent of the legislation.

25. Shatterface

It was only last week that right-wing libertarian blogger Guido Fawkes was railing against press regulation on the grounds of free speech.

Yes, as hypocritical as supporting free speech one moment and supporting a ban on adverts aimed at children the next.

“I was at a football match V Leicester about 2 years ago. Our fans were singing “You’re going to get your f*****g head kicked in”. The police watching us did nothing. A very thin chant from a small section of the crowd made a chorus of “Your just a bunch of p***s”.”
Which team do you support ?
Obviously championship. Working class tory, loves racist and violent chants.
Fuck me you are a Millwall supporter.
Explains a LOT.


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