Julian Assange is back! …with a Christmas message


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8:50 am - December 21st 2012

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In the cold London weather last night, Julian Assange stepped out into the balcony of the Ecuadorian Embassy yesterday and gave this Christmas speech.

He read the prepared remarks to about 80 supporters and a large number of police officers gathered below.

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“Six months ago I entered this building. It has become my home, my office and my refuge.

Surely he meant his prison!

LATEST: Man continues incarcerating himself in a small room with no way to leave in order to avoid chance of being incarcerated in a small room with no way to leave.

I suspect he’ll be wearing a Chrismas stocking over his head when the maid comes round to clean his room.

This guy is public enemy no. 1 to you Americoliberals, ain’t he?

@ 3 Shatterface

ROFLMAO!

6. Chaise Guevara

@2 George Potter

“LATEST: Man continues incarcerating himself in a small room with no way to leave in order to avoid chance of being incarcerated in a small room with no way to leave.”

Oh, the shocking hypocrite!!!!

It seems to me that some vital distinction is being left out. Like whether that “small room” is your home, or jail. I personally prefer my home to jail. I’m also not particularly up for being handed over to torturers. How would you feel?

@Chaise #6:

I’m also not particularly up for being handed over to torturers.

Not this one again…

@ 6 Chaise

It seems to me that some vital distinction is being left out. Like whether that “small room” is your home, or jail. I personally prefer my home to jail. I’m also not particularly up for being handed over to torturers. How would you feel?

Yep, I too would rather be incarcerated in my home than in gaol. I would rather be in gaol that in the Ecuadorian Embassy however as the latter doesn’t have an excercise yard. They also have better conversation in pokey, and a higher standard of chess.

As for being tortured, you’ve been reading too much Naomi Wolf. As Robin says “Not this one again…”!

I’m also not particularly up for being handed over to torturers

The Swedish prison service is not prone to torturing suspects.

For any suggestion that he’s being asked to go anywhere but Sweden, please refer to @7.

10. Chaise Guevara

@ 8

“Yep, I too would rather be incarcerated in my home than in gaol. I would rather be in gaol that in the Ecuadorian Embassy however as the latter doesn’t have an excercise yard. They also have better conversation in pokey, and a higher standard of chess.”

Really? Have you spent a lot of time in both, enabling you to discover this?

@ 9

“For any suggestion that he’s being asked to go anywhere but Sweden, please refer to @7.”

Comment 7, in its entirety, says “Not this one again”. I’m not sure why you and the unpronounceable person above you seem to think that it’s some kind of smack-down argument. That said, I’m not particularly interested in resurrecting the deportation debate. For the purposes of this discussion, if Assange believes he would be deported to Gitmo (and I agree that he might be lying about that), that would be enough for him to want to stay where he is, no?

Assange is no hero, he is a coward that is trying to escape justice for his alledged crimes in Sweden

12. margin4error

Strange thing. We often lament that the public has a short attention span and forget too quickly. Yet in this instance I’m fairly comfortable with him being largely forgotten as he whitters on about press freedom and his human rights from the sanctuary of the freedom hating Ecuadorian embassy.

@ 10 Chaise

I’ve never spent any rime in the Ecuadorian embassy, but I have it in good authority that they have no facility for outdoor excercise.

I find Assange creepy, in a Jimmy Savile sort of way.

15. the a&e charge nurse

Did somebody mention assange?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVY1-v97Mic

I find Assange creepy, in a Jimmy Savile sort of way.
You mean Assange spent 11 Christmasses as Margaret Thatcher’s guest at her official Chequers residence like Jimmy.

17. Man on Clapham Omnibus

Sadly the supposed personality of Assange has overshadowed the important contribution he has made to journalism in this thread.
Maybe some here would like their ‘news’ BBC breakfast TV style in which case fine. But I hope others may be inclined to think that actually knowing how governments are acting ,often against the interests of their respective electorates, is an important element in the process of democracy. For his contribution I think he needs to be congratulated and supported.

@17

Sadly the supposed personality of Assange has overshadowed the important contribution he has made to journalism in this thread.

True that. It is however an endemic problem among male leaders of anti-elites/anti-government groups who have often gloried in their one-man band status – from Gerry Healy to Arthur Scargill to Tommy Sheridan to George Galloway to Julian Assange, it’s always been their preening overweening egos that’s ultimately done them, and their groups, in.

Meanwhile the self effacing Sheila Torrance of the Workers Revolutionary Party – who she?

PD @ 16: Savile certainly spent some Christmases with the Thatchers, but I’m not sure about 11. In any event, Savile managed to con nearly everyone, so this does not reflect badly on Mrs Thatcher or on Blair who invited Savile to Chequers. The point is that sinister egotists can be very plausible and manipulative…and I have a hunch that Assange is in the same category.

@19

In any event, Savile managed to con nearly everyone

The scandal at the heart of the Savile case is not that he conned people, but that everyone looked the other way for him. Such is the power of ultimate freedom and political clout. When it’s out there in plain sight in his own autobiography, and the amount of people crawling out the woodwork saying they knew exactly what he was up to but knew there was no one they could turn to, it’s a bit of a stretch to claim that he was a con man.

Cylux

Thanks for the fascinating link. Sure, Savile had ‘clout’, but that was because he conned people through his charity fundraising into believing he was a good person and a role model. I suspect that when people heard rumours, they would have a period of cognitive dissonance until they rejected the rumours, unable to believe that saintly Jimmy could do such things.

I think you are overstating your case. His activities were hardly in “plain sight” in the extracts from his autobiography I have read. And, as for “the amount of people crawling out the woodwork saying they knew exactly what he was up to but knew there was no one they could turn to”, their hindsight is a wonderful thing and I suspect they are making excuses for themselves.

The parallels with Assange are interesting. Like Savile, he’s seen by certain people as a saint/hero. Like Savile, he has an ego the size of Asia. LIke SAvile, he is said to be difficult to work with unless he’s in control. Like Savile, he has had people queueing up to offer him hospitality. Like Savile, there are rumours that he uses his status for his sexual gratification…

22. sovereigntea

Assange frontman for the limited hangout spook operation who selectively spread biased “seeded” information that benefited Israel and damaged the interests of the USA and Britain. He received so much more data but failed to publish it in the interests of the greater good why ?

Who cares what happens to him he is part of the problem ?

@21 I don’t disagree. I was somewhat leery when news reports started to focus more on Assange rather than any upcoming wikileaks revelations and gushed about his unique lifestyle. I didn’t think much of it at the time, just thought it odd (or a ‘tactical error’) that someone would begin glorying in the fame that wikileaks provided, seemed to be like painting a bull’s-eye onto yourself. Then of course came the sexual assault charges.
I didn’t find it too hard to believe he was just another egoist drunk on his own sense of rebellious personal fame who thought he could do whatever he liked to all these doe-eyed naïve women cos he was a ‘hero of the cause’. For reasons mention @18.

What I like most about Julian Assange is the way the group he founded tries to hold people up to account for their dodgy actions, whilst trying to avoid having to account for his own, alleged, dodgy actions.

he is such a fake

****http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2010/12/assanges-wikileaks-is-fake.html

Sadly the supposed personality of Assange has overshadowed the important contribution he has made to journalism in this thread.

We tend to forget that Jimmy Saville did some good charity work too.

Its like being a bit rapey undoes all the good work people do.

Its like being a bit rapey undoes all the good work people do.
Shatterface has he been convicted yet ? Surely you cannot accuse a man of been a rapist until he has been to trial and banged up.Surely even in right wing circles.

Also Tone what about Peter Morrison and Thatch. Also it is very strange that the security services did not vet Saville. Also it was 11 just check

28. margin4error

PD

Trouble is – Assange seems very keen not to face trial and thus find out one way or another where “a bit rapey” actually equates in this instance to “rapist”.

And that being the case we can only draw our own conclusions can’t we?

Also Tone what about Peter Morrison and Thatch. Also it is very strange that the security services did not vet Saville. Also it was 11 just check

Ian Bone makes an interesting allegation in that vein – http://ianbone.wordpress.com/2012/12/28/thatcher-saville-phone-calls-hurriedly-deleted-on-october-11th/

“Trouble is – Assange seems very keen not to face trial and thus find out one way or another where “a bit rapey” actually equates in this instance to “rapist”.”

Bit rapey is different from rapist. How ?. He only 1/2 rapes someone ?
You can draw what conclusions you like but you cannot accuse an individual of been a bit rapey (i.e. a rapist)until he is convicted. I am sure you would, quite rightly, shatterface, yourself and other righty posters would use the same argument if someone called one of Thatchers ex ministers of being a bit paedo

If santa Julian were to come down your chimney with a wikileak, what would it concern?


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