‘Obama slogan comes from crazy Germans!’


by Tim Fenton    
9:49 am - May 17th 2012

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There are few depths that former Thatcher aide and Telegraph Blogs contributor Nile “Chauncey” Gardiner will not plumb in his lame and predictable efforts to put the boot in on Barack Obama.

Yesterday’s excruciatingly weak attempt to kick the Prez, titled “ Barack Obama recycles a German Socialist campaign slogan from the 1960s takes a single word – “Forward” – and blows it up into a full blown horror story, all because the early 60s SPD in what was then West Germany used it in campaign literature.

Gardiner also tries to include Willy Brandt’s Ostpolitik strategy in the charge sheet.

Willy Brandt later went on to become Chancellor of Germany from 1969-1974, and was the architect of the highly controversial “Ostpolitik” policy of engagement with the Soviet Union and the East Bloc countries, perhaps an early forerunner of the Obama administration’s “reset” policy towards Moscow. Brandt was eventually forced to resign his office in April 1974 after one of his top advisers, Gunter Guillaume, confessed to being an agent for East Germany’s feared secret police, the Stasi.

On Ostpolitik first – something Gardiner tries to translate into an appeasement of dictatorships – this was nothing more than common sense. The policy, after all, was aimed primarily at other (East) Germans. Without Ostpolitik, there might have been no end to the Berlin Wall.

And all practical politicians – including Gardiner’s former employer Mrs T – have done business with dictators.

Perhaps Nile has forgotten Augusto Pinochet. And all those Middle Eastern regimes that both the UK and USA were more than happy to do business with.

And the likes of the deeply unpleasant Chiang Kai-shek, cultivated for so long after World War 2, and the singularly corrupt Governments in South Vietnam in whose defence so many US service personnel gave their lives.

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1. Chaise Guevara

My pop didn’t fight in Vietnam just so we could be ruled by the Germans!!!

Forward is also the name of a moderate socialist party in Greenland. No coincidence, methinks! Now, remind me where Obama was actually born?

Nile Gardiner is a fine example of how much foolishness one can express, without apology, while maintaining one’s place as a respected commentator. To wit

…the appeasement of the brutal Iraqi dictatorship by France, Germany and other members of the UN Security Council will go down in history as one of the most shameful episodes of the early 21st Century.

Or

Forget Christian Bale in Terminator Salvation – the new leader of the resistance is Dick Cheney. [He is] brutal, uncompromising and brilliant…

Or…

Widely seen as his biggest foreign policy error, the decision to invade Iraq could ultimately prove to have been a masterstroke.

Sheer modesty forces me to refer to the original post here:

http://zelo.tv/LaizNr

And another use of this particular F-word was by the Tories in 1986, “The Next Moves Forward”, during the Prime Ministership of Gardiner’s hero Margaret Thatcher, in whose name he does his day job.

A truly desperate pundit, but typical of the right leaning commentariat in the USA at present.

5. David Moss

All this stuff about Ostpolitik and Pinochet is needlessly defensive. The correct response is simply that these 1960′s German politicians don’t have a monopoly on the word “Forward.”

6. Matt Heath

He could have done better than Brandt surely! I’d have gone with the newspaper Mussolini used to edit when he was Socialist (SEE, JONAH GOLDBERG WAS RIGHT!!!), or else the current paper of the Portuguese Communist Party.

7. So Much For Subtlety

On Ostpolitik first – something Gardiner tries to translate into an appeasement of dictatorships – this was nothing more than common sense. The policy, after all, was aimed primarily at other (East) Germans. Without Ostpolitik, there might have been no end to the Berlin Wall.

You can call appeasement common sense, but it does not cease to be appeasement. Ostpolitik was either childishly naive or it was Finlandisation.

You can also say that without Ostpolitik there would have been no end to the Berlin Wall. And indeed that was Brandt’s aim. But as it turned out it was not his method. He wanted to bring down the Wall and keep the East Germans trapped on the other side with the Soviet Union still in place.

And all practical politicians – including Gardiner’s former employer Mrs T – have done business with dictators.

Dictators != totalitarian parties with a genocidal history.

Perhaps Nile has forgotten Augusto Pinochet. And all those Middle Eastern regimes that both the UK and USA were more than happy to do business with.

Pinochet being better than the Soviet-ally that was the alternative.

And the likes of the deeply unpleasant Chiang Kai-shek, cultivated for so long after World War 2, and the singularly corrupt Governments in South Vietnam in whose defence so many US service personnel gave their lives.

Corrupt they may have been, but totalitarian and genocidal they were not. It is a tragedy for the people of Vietnam that the Americans did not win that war. I would love to hear anyone make a case otherwise. It says a lot about this OP that it seems to think bribery is worse than re-education. America stopped their support for Chiang and only restarted when the CCP won. And again, whatever else you can say about Chiang, he was not Mao. Which is why Taiwan is an infinitely better place to live than the Mainland. And Chiang did not have to starve 30 million people to death to achieve it either.


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