Exclusive: UKIP spokesman calls on far-right party to join UKIP
9:00 am - May 9th 2012
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UKIP ‘front-line‘ spokeman Christopher Monckton has called on the far-right British Freedom Party to “come back and join” UKIP, in a video interview.
Monckton is also listed by UKIP as its Scotland Leader & Head of Policy Unit. He is an infamous climate change denier and previously called President Obama’s birth certificate “plainly a forgery”.
Christopher Monckton’s call to BFP members (video below) was made on 15th March, before the BFP made a pact with the English Defence League and named its leader Tommy Robinson as the BFP deputy leader.
The British Freedom Party was formed in 2010 and mostly populated by disaffected members of the BNP. A significant proportion were supporters of Eddy Butler – who failed to oust Nick Griffin as BNP leader in 2010. The BFP leader is Paul Weston – a former UKIP election candidate.
There were several instances of disaffected BNP members calling on other far-right nationalists to join the BFP, promising that it would not be another version of UKIP.
In the video interview, hosted in the United States, Monckton was asked his opinion of the British Freedom Party (at 28m.11secs in).
He says:
I wish that the independent minded people who are willing to stand away from the major parties could remember that because we are so few, we should stand together.
And UKIP is, for all its faults, the biggest of the freedom loving, democracy loving, independent minded parties. And I don’t like this splitting off, which is very prone to happen in those smaller parties precisely because you have to be independent minded to start with. And this makes everyone willing to fight and go their own way.
But the British Freedom Party won’t really come to very much, I don’t think, and I would very much like them to come back and join us and we stand together…
UPDATE UKIP have sent us a statement:
The National Executive Committee of UKIP decided in January to include the BFPO amongst a list of proscribed organisations whose members, and former members are not welcome in UKIP.
“Membership is not available to anyone who is or has previously been a member of the British National Party, National Front, British Freedom Party, British People’s Party, English Defence League, Britain First or the UK First Party. Any applications made from people who are or have been members of these organisations will be refused, and any subscriptions collected will be refunded. By applying for membership you certify that you are not and have never been a member of either of these parties. ”
Christopher Moncton has been out of the country for almost the whole of this year, and it is unlikely that he has been following the details of our NEC meetings. To that end he was entirely mistaken in his view. Members and former members ofteh BFP are not welcome in UKIP.
An odd excuse.
One of their key spokesman doesn’t know about a change in policy, and thinks far-right parties (the BFP always had far-right origins) was fine to reach out to?
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UKIP reveal their true colours again. Not racist but “Daily Mail racist” (i.e. racist behind closed doors but just about avoid letting it out in public for fear of being seen as a working class BNP type).
Yawns.
As the leader of UKIP I can say that we do not want these people under any circumstances.
We are the only party who ban far right extremists from joining which gives an indication of how strongly we feel about this.
UKIP are a libertarian party which believes in freedom and democracy.
@3
Best be getting rid of Monckton then, eh?
Monckton didn’t get the brief, Nige, that your party is libertarian – it’ll do you no good on that front wooing “back” the protectionists of the BFP (now with added half-price EDL membership).
“UKIP are a libertarian party ”
In what sense is a ‘throw the immigrants out ” a libertarian position?
Why is this story illustrated with a picture of Nick Griffin?
@ 6 Planeshift
“In what sense is a ‘throw the immigrants out ” a libertarian position?”
UKIP are a “libertarian as regards stuff I want to do” party.
Orwell was and always will be right. War = Peace; Ignorance = Strength; and of course Freedom = Slavery. Nazi groupings always love this last one. Their love of ‘freedom’ is always at the expense of someone else’s backed up by violence if at all possible. I remember a McWhirter twin (and his charming Freedom Organisation) wanted to intern ALL people of Irish origin in the UK in the mid-seventies in the name of ‘Freedom’. I think we know what their idea of democracy is.
There’s nothing remotely libertarian about UKIP and it’s utterly ridiculous to say so. Or, more to the point. it’s a blatant lie to say so. You can’t be libertarian when you firmly believe the state should tell people where they can and can’t live and refuse to let them cross borders.
UKIP are a far right nazi type party. Pure and simple. We beat the likes of them in 1945. They’ve no support (they’re busy describing a total of nine councillors – up by zero – as a major breakthrough – another lie).
They’re irrelevant and nasty.
“UKIP are a far right nazi type party. Pure and simple. We beat the likes of them in 1945. They’ve no support (they’re busy describing a total of nine councillors – up by zero – as a major breakthrough – another lie).
They’re irrelevant and nasty”
What kind of utterly inadequate ponce could equate ukip with the nazi party, its funny how much you all fear them and cant with your intellect make a sound case against them, so instead you try to associate them with the bnp or the nanzi party…..
yawns.
“And I don’t like this splitting off, which is very prone to happen in those smaller parties precisely because you have to be independent minded to start with. And this makes everyone willing to fight and go their own way. But the British Freedom Party won’t really come to very much, I don’t think, and I would very much like them to come back and join us and we stand together”
The subtle racism that sometimes seems to pervade in UKIP (Monckton’s views on Obama’s birth certificate seemingly not being a concern to UKIP’s leadership, for example) does disturb me. However, in this case, Monckton’s language makes me wonder whether he knew what the BFP was. “Come back” makes it sound like he thought it was primarily a UKIP splinter- perhaps an understandable assumption, given that the name might lead you to believe it was in some way a relation to the libertarian Freedom Association (an organisation with substantial UKIP overlap), as opposed to being a mainly BNP-linked far group on the far-right.
“What kind of utterly inadequate ponce could equate ukip with the nazi party, its funny how much you all fear them and cant with your intellect make a sound case against them, so instead you try to associate them with the bnp or the nanzi party…..”
I rest my case.
“I rest my case.”
And millions rest in peace, slaughtered in there prime fighting against a real evil in conditions you cant imagine and its more than evident they did a dam good job, as all these years later a little ponce like your self who has been exposed to and asked to sacrifice nothing in life can make that comparison at the slightest provocation to there belief system..
If you had the backbone and character to produce force behind your beliefs, that would be insulting to those who past fighting the nazi party off…as you evidently do not, well..lol….im sure your mothers proud…
“If you had the backbone and character to produce force behind your beliefs”
Sounds like something Anders Breivik would say.
@ 15 Planeshift
“Sounds like something Anders Breivik would say.”
Or Yoda. Including the unintelligable psychobabble.
@ 10 Chris
“There’s nothing remotely libertarian about UKIP and it’s utterly ridiculous to say so. ”
Weeell, they’ve got a comparatively libertarian view when it comes to taxes and regulation of booze and fags. Just not when it doesn’t involve something that benefits them personally. So it’s less libertartianism as a moral philosophy, and more “personal freedom is essential for me and my mates, screw the rest” libertarianism.
@3 – “UKIP are a libertarian party which believes in freedom and democracy.”
Freedom and democracy are not synonyms I would immediately associate with UKIP. UKIP are the only political party to ban members of British Freedom and the EDL. Where’s the “freedom” in that”
As for democracy, I see that Lord Monckton has now been removed from the UKIP NEC members on their website. A democratic decision? I think not.
Farage is the tombstone which is dragging UKIP down. Time for a new leader methinks.
“Farage is the tombstone which is dragging UKIP down. Time for a new leader ”
Hadn’t realised you were infighting. Popcorn time.
Farage is the only one of you with any media presence or charisma, unless you’re calling for the bringing back of Kilroy.
@ 19
Get Worstall on it! Is Lee UKIP then? Doesn’t come off that way in his post.
@Nigel Farage MEP #3:
<blockquote.We are the only party who ban far right extremists from joining which gives an indication of how strongly we feel about this.
In which case why does your party excuse the Viscount on the basis that ehw as abroad when the BFP were proscribed? Did the BFP only become “far right extremists” as of January this year?
It does rather look as if your party does not ban far right extremists from joining – just far right extremists who haven’t identified themselves as such by being former members of groups identifiable as such.
Can we expect from you the same level of accuracy and honesty on this issue as was displayed in your Bolivian cat story that the Home Secretary picked up, to her embarassment, at last October’s Conservative Party Conference?
(To those unaware of this – it is technically true that Ms May “was not making this up”; that was in fact Mr Farage’s role, although to be fair his version was even more elaborately inaccurate).
As usual, Sunny is sniffing around, desperately looking for ways to link UKIP to the ‘far-right’. Imagine if Farage had gone to a fancy-dress party dressed as a Nazi, like Ed Balls did. I’d wager that would be the photo Sunny would use with every story about UKIP.
@ 21,
“It does rather look as if your party does not ban far right extremists from joining – just far right extremists who haven’t identified themselves as such by being former members of groups identifiable as such.”
What exactly do you expect a party to do? Hire private investigators every time someone joins? Demand applicants undertake a lie-detector test?
All parties make clear what they stand for, and that membership requires that members are supportive of these aims, and all parties reserve the right to throw out members who go against these aims.
@Trooper Thompson #22:
“It does rather look as if your party does not ban far right extremists from joining – just far right extremists who haven’t identified themselves as such by being former members of groups identifiable as such.”
What exactly do you expect a party to do? Hire private investigators every time someone joins? Demand applicants undertake a lie-detector test?
All parties make clear what they stand for, and that membership requires that members are supportive of these aims, and all parties reserve the right to throw out members who go against these aims.
This isn’t about stealth entry. Read my final clause quoted above as:
“…just far right extremists who haven’t identified themselves as such to the world at large by being former members of groups identifiable by the world at large as such.”
UKIP’s defence of Monckton suggests that it would have quite happy to accept professed former members of the BFP until January this year; despite the fact that – unless it changed character in January this year – former members of the BFP were as likely to be far right extremists in December 2011 as in February 2012. What changed? UKIP didn’t suddenly decide that the views of the BFP were anathema to it; it realised that the outside world could identify those members of its own party who used to be members of the BFP as far right extremists holding those views and took the cosmetic step of proscribing the BFP.
Look at these two pages, and tell me with a straight face that one isn’t a prettied up version of the other:
http://www.ukip.org/content/ukip-policies/2553-what-we-stand-for
http://britishfreedom.org/the-british-freedom-party-principles-and-policies/
and for bonus points identify a major policy position that remotely approaches a libertarian position.
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