How the Jewish Chronicle is trying to smear Jeremy Corbyn MP


5:07 pm - April 23rd 2012

by Ben White    


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Last week, following a judge’s decision to reject Theresa May’s attempt to exclude Raed Salah from the UK, Labour MP Jeremy Corbyn participated in a press conference featuring Salah’s lawyer.

Corbyn said it was necessary to have an inquiry into how the Home Secretary Theresa May made her decision to exclude Salah. Speaking separately, Salah’s lawyer Tayab Ali also said he felt was the role of the ‘pro-Israeli lobby’ in shaping certain government policies.

Subsequently, the blog Harry’s Place (HP) ran a post ridiculously titled, “Labour MP calls for public inquiry into Jewish influence in the Conservative Party”.

When I asked Corbyn about it on Twitter, he confirmed the obvious:

Corbyn had said:

The question is of the powers of the Home Secretary and the need for an inquiry into this. Previous Home Secretaries have been forced out of office for less than this. I think we need an open, independent inquiry into the whole process.

But the obvious (intentional?) error in the HP post was then repeated by Jewish Chronicle political editor Martin Bright.

Bright’s article, “Jeremy Corbyn calls for inquiry on ‘pro-Israel lobby’”, is a less excusable bit of misrepresentation, given that this is a news item in a paper, rather than a hit-job post on a notorious blog.

He only got round to quoting Corbyn’s press conference remarks in the fifth of six paragraphs, and they are the same as transcribed by HP (though for some reason, Bright omits Corbyn’s reference to the Public Inquiries Act).

When I asked Bright if he had bothered to contact Jeremy Corbyn or his office for comment and clarification pre-deadline, he admitted that he had not.

A pattern
Last May, Martin Bright had a front page piece for The JC under the headline: “Pears funded charity which hosted jihadist” (see Antony Lerman here). It was subsequently taken down, and you read this apology which appeared on the paper’s website six months later.

These are not the only Jewish Chronicle ‘highlights’ under Stephen Pollard.

Last year, a columnist expressed “pleasure” at the killing of Italian human rights activist Vittorio Arrigoni in Gaza.

Last month, an article linked the Toulouse killings with pro-Palestinian motions in UK trade unions. More recently, the paper was embarrassed by revelations it had been hosting blog posts by the BNP’s mayoral candidate for London.

It seems like high editorial standards are not the priority at either HP or the Jewish Chronicle.

Update: Jeremy Corbyn has commented on this at his blog.

But Martin Bright has given up any pretence at neutrality or regard for facts

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This is a guest article. Ben White is a freelance journalist who has written for Guardian's CIF, Electronic Intifada and others. His book 'Israeli Apartheid: A Beginner's Guide' (Pluto Press), was published in 2009.
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Also interesting that Martin Bright said of Ken Livingstone on 15 March “I think the truth is that he’s a bit old now. Out of touch and just a little potty”. Six days before the JC went with its “Ken says Jews won’t vote for me because they’re rich” story.

I kept the Tweet. One has to preserve these memorable moments.

But there is no ‘pro Israel lobby.’ We know this because the same people who told us that Israel has not got nuclear weapons have said quite categorically there is NO pro Israel lobby.

So thats all right then.

Is this the chap:

“A suitable way was found to warn the 4,000 Jews who work every day at the Twin Towers to be absent from their work on September 11, 2001, and this is really what happened! Were 4,000 Jewish clerks absent [from their jobs] by chance, or was there another reason? At the same time, no such warning reached the 2,000 Muslims who worked every day in the Twin Towers, and therefore there were hundreds of Muslim victims.”

“Is it true that the American administration arrested five Israelis with European citizenship on suspicion of involvement in the incident[?] They worked for a Jew in a moving company, with forged visas, and were severely tortured during their interrogation so that they would give details about the incident…”

It’s from Saut Al-Haqq Wa-Al-Hurriyya,

I’m not commenting on May’s farcical behaviour, just pointing out he’s a bit of a loon. He can stay here as long as he likes for me.

“It seems like high editorial standards are not the priority at either HP or the Jewish Chronicle.”

Nor here, judging by the typos from the 2nd par onwards.

Still obsessed, BW?

On Twitter Martin Bright says: ” I will be asking @jeremycorbyn to clarify his position.”

I find it unbelievable he didn’t even bother asking him to clarify or ask him anything before running such a misleading headline.

I expect that from silly blog Harry’s Place anyway.

wow. Martin Bright doubles down on smearing of Corbyn. Now it’s an “inquiry into Jews’ influence” https://twitter.com/#!/martinbright/status/194497647975993344 (oddly enough, the original line of the Harry’s Place post)

“the same people who told us that Israel has not got nuclear weapons”

Who? I’ve never heard anyone make this claim.

I’m not a big fan of Corbyn but that is a wicked despicable smear. The counterintuitively-named Mr. Bright is lucky not to be sued.

I’ve no brief for Martin Bright or Harry’s Place, but the fact is that Cobryn has a record of being willing to associate with people who *do* rant on about the “zionist lobby” and other antisemitic conspiracy theories.

Some of his articles in the Morning Star would also seem to suggest that he doesn’t support a two states position and believes Israel shouldn’t exist.

Happy Saint George’s Day.

The Tomb of Saint George at his birthplace, which is now known as Lod and which is the location of Israel’s principal airport, has become a shadow of its former self as a major of focus of unity between Christians and Muslims in devotion to the Patron Saint of Palestine and Egypt before, and as much as, the Patron Saint of England. Three quarters of those who practised that devotion were violently expelled in 1948.

Here’s a Tweet from Martin ‘Great Koran Con-Trick’ Bright.

‘Martin Bright ?
This is so depressing http://t.co/K6q69122

What is it that Martin ‘I am not an Islamaphobe’ Bright finds so depressing?

A letter protesting against the treatment of Mordechai Vanunu.and the possession of nuclear weapons by Israel.

12. Just Visiting

He has said some unpleasant stuff, eg 2008, the Jerusalem Post writes:

The al-Aqsa mosque was never the site of a Jewish temple, Sheikh Raed Salah, the head of the Islamic Movement’s northern branch, said Monday during a press conference he convened in Jerusalem to respond to voices calling for the expulsion of Israeli residents of the city who participate in terror activities against Israel.

“Those calling for the expulsion of Palestinian residents of east Jerusalem are hysterical and stupid and belong in the trash can,” Salah said at the conference.

He went on to deny any Israeli or Jewish historical claim to the city, denying that there ever existed a Jewish temple on the Temple Mount.

“The claims of the Jews are big lies and they have no right to any speck of dirt here,” he said. [...]

“I think that we are at a critical time. We believe that al-Aqsa is in danger and that it is under occupation, and we believe that Jerusalem is in danger because it is under occupation,” Salah said. “Jerusalem is not only houses – it is faith, it is history, it is a culture, it is a present, a future and an eternal right that we will not relinquish.” [...]

During his sermon in Jerusalem’s Wadi Joz neighborhood on February 16 of last year, Salah urged supporters to start a third intifada in order to “save al-Aksa Mosque, free Jerusalem and end the occupation.”

Salah’s speech also attacked Jews, saying, “They want to build their temple at a time when our blood is on their clothes, on their doorsteps, in their food and in their drinks. Our blood has passed from one ‘general terrorist’ to another ‘general terrorist.’”

He also said, “We are not those who ate bread dipped in children’s blood.

By the way, would the esteemed author of this piece just happen to be the same “Ben White” who has a letter in today’s Graun?

Assuming so, it’s worth reproducing the letter here:

“The four MP’s who criticise the call for a boycott of Israel’s National Theatre were poorly briefed (Letters 21 April). To say that Habima is a ‘non-government affiliated theatre group’ is an odd claim, given it is state-financed and has received £10,000 from Israel’s foreign ministry specifically for the planned performance at the Globe. It meets perfectly the criteria for boycott, following the Palestinians’ call for international support in achieving decolonisation.”

I presume that Mr White of Cambridge also thinks that any arts organisation in Britain that recieves an Arts Council grant should be held responsible for UK involvment in the Iraq and Afghan wars?

Or is it only Israeli arts organisations that must be boycotted because of the policies of their government?

14. Just Visiting

Actually Ben

> Subsequently, the blog Harry’s Place (HP) ran a post ridiculously titled, “Labour MP calls for public inquiry into Jewish influence in the Conservative Party”.

You do know that LC itself has a poor record for titles that are quite untrue ?
So can’t really criticise HP for that.

PS ’tis funny how jargon works: on another site I visit, HP means Harry Potter.

Ah, Jim Denham. The man who calls Palestinians refugees ‘ex-pats’.

Bright criticises others for their associations, yet her he is having a cosy chat with a war criminal.

http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/56224/interview-tzipi-livni

‘Ms Livni’s visit was overshadowed by the attempt by Palestinian campaigners to have her arrested for war crimes allegedly committed during Operation Cast Lead in Gaza. She remained unconvinced that the change to the law on universal jurisdiction had been effective.

“It worked today, but it needs to be proved that it is not a personal issue,” she said. “It worked today for my visit, a visit I wanted to make as a test case for the legislation. But we need now to make sure it works for everybody.”

Asked if she was happy that the coalition government has pushed through the law change, she concluded: “I really don’t care what happens behind the scenes. I want to know that every Israeli leader and [military] officer can come and visit London.”‘

See how Martin Bright says that war crimes were ‘allegedly’ committed during Operation Cast Lead in Gaza. So all those deaths and all that destruction was merely an allegation?

Ben,

It’s nice to see you are a regular reader of the JC.

For the record did Jeremy Corbyn refute Salah’s lawyer’s assertion, made at the same press conference, that ”he felt was the role of the ‘pro-Israel lobby’ in shaping certain government policies”?

If he didn’t refute them I would suggest it is probably a view which he shares but is cautious enough not to state himself.

Could you please ask him on Twitter whether he does share this view – as you appear to be in contact with him? (I am neither in contact with him or on Twitter).

Alternatively, if you won’t ask Jeremy Corbyn this question could you please explain why?

Many thanks.

K

16. So, ‘Corbyn had his turn and didn’t speak again after the lawyer expressed an opinion’ means ‘Corbyn personally calls for an inquiry into Jewish influence’.

Right.

The defenders of Bright here are brilliant; it’s like the witchcraft trial episode of Blackadder. “If you think that the Home Secretary’s decision in not letting a silly person into the country is a questionable assault on free speech, then you must be in favour of everything that the silly person and anyone else who has ever associated with him claims”.

TC re comment 17:

No.

Why not let Jeremy Corbyn answer the question himself rather than repeat the caption made by Harry’s Place?

There was a time, not too long ago, when no person on the left would countenance defending people who made statements akin to ‘The Protocols of the Elders of Zion’, let alone appear at their press conferences. But that was then and people on the left are so much smarter now, eh?

19. Ah, ok, see what happened here is you’ve leveled criticism at a blog post proving Corbyn didn’t call for an ‘inquiry into Jewish influence’ or whatever, but since you didn’t explicitly state that while doing so you weren’t endorsing the notion that he did actually call for such an inquiry, it seemed to suggest that you did in fact hold that view. Wowzers, kind of a silly thing for me to infer wasn’t it?

This article you’ve appeared under is about HP/JC lying about what Corbyn said in order to smear him. Why you feel entitled to some personal accountability from the man is entirely your own business, but whatever the answer to your question, the facts of what he said (which have been gone over in this article) would remain the same. Not leaping up at a press conference after he had said all he needed to say, in order to censure someone else’s opinion, doesn’t change those facts either. It is rather the JC that ought to be answering questions on the theme of honesty and omission, not to mention dabbling in retraction and apology.

21. organic cheeseboard

Martin Bright is a bit of a strange case. He is, in general, a pretty good journalist, but he seems to have a total blind spot when it comes to Islam and Israel/Palestine, leading him to believe in any old unsourced, partisan rubbish, and to defend it long after it’s clear that the source and material is dodgy.

teresa may is in the conservative party it was her decision to exclude him, she spokje to a lawyer and Jeremy corbyn has asked were the two klinked, a fair quote by harry’s palce i feel, adn to try tosay that jews are trying to semar Corbyn,with his links to palastien,jsut reaks of anti semeticism

23. flyingrodent

he seems to have a total blind spot when it comes to Islam and Israel/Palestine, leading him to believe in any old unsourced, partisan rubbish, and to defend it long after it’s clear that the source and material is dodgy.

Well, yes. See also – the total refusal to differentiate between the various, actually-existing Israel advocacy groups, politicians, hacks and volunteers and conspiracy theories involving a baleful, racist fantasy of Jewish space lizards exercising mind control over humanity.

Entertainingly, I see that Ed Hussain is now off the “Muslims it’s okay to like” list, along with sundry other fantasists and conmen such as Hassan Butt and Ahmad Chalabi. By my reckoning, that brings the list of “Muslims with acceptable opinions” down to “Ayaan Hirsi Ali” and… that’s it.

Ms. Hirsi Ali, of course, is an atheist.

And of course the non existent ‘pro Israeli lobby’ have absolutely nothing to do with the remorseless attacks on Ken Livingstone, and the promotion of Muppet Boris.

No siree, nothing whatever to do with it.

Lets look at the facts here

We have a man who has made some fairly racist accusations against Jews (notably the blood libel), the 9/11 lies etc. I don’t think any fair minded person could dispute this.

We have a Home Secretary who on evidence of the blood libel quotes felt his exclusion from the UK was warrented.

We have the lawyer of the man who made these antisemitic quotes saying at a press confernece attended by Corbyn there should be an inquiry into the “the mechanism that was used to provide information to government departments, the Prime Minister himself, and his relationship to pro-Israel lobbying groups.”

At the same conference Corbyn is also found saying “I think a public inquiry is the best course of action to take.”

I may be wrong but this does appear to be an endorsement of the lawyers calls.

Take a look at this article.

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/martin-bright/2008/05/israel-british-iran

‘The great betrayal
The issue of Israel has become a terrible fault line on the British left but liberal opinion may soon be forced to change
BY MARTIN BRIGHT PUBLISHED 15 MAY 2008 13:00′

Amazingly the ‘great betrayal’ is not of the dispossessed and oppressed Palestinians but of the tiny and insignificant Israeli ‘left’. The article is a report of a freebie trip bright mad to Israel which was paid for and organised by BICOM. Yes, the Israel lobbying group that Bright considers beyond investigation.

In the article, Bright fails to report the views of even one Palestinian either in Israel or the occupied territories.

Imagine a ‘journalist’ going to the Deep South in the early Sixties and failing to report the views of one Black American. What would that tell you about such a person,

ps Bright has revealed his job description at the JC as ‘making the progressive case for Israel’. In other words, to quote Obama, putting lipstick on a pig.

27. Henry Weiss

There’s some really strange folk commenting here. “Sally”, I think probably takes the biscuit for me. The remorseless attacks on Ken Livingstone??!! Perhaps it’s the rich Jews Sally? Poor old the defenceless innocent Ken. For what it’s worth, I don’t believe it is the “pro Israel lobby” doing it. It’s more likely to be the anti-tax evasion, anti-hypocrite, anti-supporters of defenders of suicide bombers lobby. I am quite happy to be called part of those lobbies.

HW

28. Torquil Macneil

“Martin Bright is a bit of a strange case. He is, in general, a pretty good journalist, but he seems to have a total blind spot when it comes to Islam and Israel/Palestine, leading him to believe in any old unsourced, partisan rubbish, and to defend it long after it’s clear that the source and material is dodgy.”

This only makes sense if you believe, in the face of all the evidence, that people like Salah and Qaradwi are not convinced anti-Semites.

The point is that Jeremy Corbyn is a bad man, and therefore it’s ok to tell lies about him.

30. flyingrodent

The point is that Jeremy Corbyn is a bad man, and therefore it’s ok to tell lies about him.

This would appear to be the beginning, middle and end of the argument, yes. Plus ca change etc.

31. organic cheeseboard

This only makes sense if you believe, in the face of all the evidence, that people like Salah and Qaradwi are not convinced anti-Semites.

nope, i do believe that. and i’m not sure where the idea that I don’t believe that comes from.

But the above is pretty clear. Bright deliberately misrepresented Corbyn and is continuing to do so in the face of all evidence to the contrary.

The point is that Jeremy Corbyn is a bad man, and therefore it’s ok to tell lies about him.

as the rodent says, this seems to be it.

Another +1 for Larry’s concise summery:

“The point is that Jeremy Corbyn is a bad man, and therefore it’s ok to tell lies about him.”

This seems like that ”no man’s land” of difference of opinion which is spun and distorted by both sides of the I/P issue.

First of all why is Jeremy Corbyn so fussed one way or the other about this guy Salah getting banned from the UK? He sounds like a complete dolt, and as a foriegner, should not have the freedom to just breeze into the UK on a tourist visa and give political speeches.
What visa was he coming in on btw? If it was a tourist one – then stirring up BS with gullible and naive British audiences should not be an automatic right.

The lawyer sitting next to Corbyn did say all those things. But about a ”pro-Israeli lobby” as far as I can tell.

So why does or should Corbyn care about this Salah guy? He sounds like an idiot.

damon@35 “and as a foriegner, should not have the freedom to just breeze into the UK on a tourist visa and give political speeches.”

So, just as a hypothetical example here…if I wanted a friend who was a campaigner for the Democrats to come over here and address say, my local Labour party, they would need some kind of special visa to do it?

What an utterly stupid point.

Andreas Paterson @37. I would say the first thing that needs to be done here is to have some consensus on, or at least different views of this man Salah.
Is he a ‘ding-bat’ or what?

If he is, why does he have people defending him? Why is Jeremy Corbyn at that public meeting with Salah’s lawyer? It surely just can’t be about freedom of speech, because Corbyn wouldn’t be defending the right of some non EU fascist to come and speak in the UK.
And I think it is important to know what kind of visa the guy came in on. There are loads of countries who will be very careful about who they will allow in to give political speeches. It used to be illegal for any member of a communist party to visit the USA, and I have heard of journalists who have been denied entry to the USA when they have gone there to give a lecture and not had the right kind of visa.

Salah souds like he can offer nothing to the UK, but cause aggravation by promoting this pathetic victim culture which is actually injurious to harmony in the country.
A couple of years ago I attended friday prayers in the main Dublin mosque, and the imam spent his whole sermon talking about the ”Zionist entity” and it’s plan to destroy the Al Aqsa mosque and rebuild the Jewish temple on that site. He was saying this to a couple of hundred mostly relatively new people to Ireland, and they just sat there and listened to that nonsense.

Does it matter? Of course it does. It’s irresponsible and treats the muslim guys who were there like children. And does nothing to set the quite young Muslim community in Ireland off on a healthy trajectory.

And the same goes for Britain too. I heard that Salah was attracting hundreds of people to some of those meetings. Why was Jeremy Corbyn MP seemingly backing this divisive figure?

As for your example of someone from the American Democratic party, I’d say first we need to judge Salah. If it was Geert Wilders who had been on a speaking tour of the UK, there would have been hundreds of anti-fascists protesting outside the venues.

36. sackcloth and ashes

Would you care to explain all this away, Mr White?

http://hurryupharry.org/2012/04/24/jeremy-corbyn-and-the-blood-libel-sheikh/

sackcloth and ashes is an aficionado of the breivik incubator website harry’s place (aka ‘don’t muslims say the scariest things’). The pond life that post and comment there devote an inordinate amount of life arse-sniffing for anti-semitism (usually through feeble guilt-though-association ‘x once shared a platform with y who is affiliated to z’ type shit) while stoking the flames of Islamophobia at any given opportunity. One can only assume that their goal is to ferment sectarian strife amongst jews and muslims.

“Last month, an article linked the Toulouse killings with pro-Palestinian motions in UK trade unions.”

This is not accurate. MacShane was talking about the rise of anti-Semitism in Europe. His question was wether the Toulouse killing (being an extreme case of anti-Semitism) would work as a wake up call about the existence of anti-Semitism. There was no connection made between the two events.

“More recently, the paper was embarrassed by revelations it had been hosting blog posts by the BNP’s mayoral candidate for London.”

Another smear. The BNP candidate wrote in the JC because any reader could set up a blog. As soon it was discovered who Cosiglia was, the blog was discontinued.

“It seems like high editorial standards are not the priority at either HP or the Jewish Chronicle.”

Neither Ben White’s for that matter.

Henry Weiss decries Livingstone as a supporter of a defender of suicide bombers (notice the usual x who supports y who takes position z formular). Of course Livingstone expressly stated that he opposes suicide bombing and said that he disagreed with Qaradawi’s stance on this issue but none the less this is enough for the likes of Weiss put him beyond the pale. I wonder if Weiss also is prepared to decry politicans that support ongoing military, economic and diplomatic assistance for successive Israeli governments despite their ongoing systematic and structural violence perpetrated against the Palestinians? In my experience, apologists like Weiss vary between the positions that the structural (and racist) violence endured by the Palestinians is either basically justified given the exigencies faced by the State of Israel or alternatively such violence is the object of the subtle art of diplomacy – to be resolved at some point in the indeterminate future. Contrast this with any association with an individual that supports transgressions against the Israelis, which must be condemned and opposed outright. I’d like to say that there are double standards at work, but given the modus operandi of hasbaraniks like Weiss, such posturing is entirely consistant.

[i]The point is that Jeremy Corbyn is a bad man, and therefore it’s ok to tell lies about him.[/i]

That is if they are lies about him, which doesnt appear to be the case.

Sackcloth shouldn’t link to hate sites.

It is the height of irony that some muppet posting at a site which defends anti-semites should think of HP as a hate site.

40. ““Jeremy Corbyn calls for inquiry on ‘pro-Israel lobby’” is a lie. Escalated by bright saying he “backed calls for an inquiry into Jewish influence”. Also a lie. But, as both Bright and his defenders here love pointing out, it doesn’t even matter that that’s a lie, because “Jeremy Cornyn is a bad man therefore it’s ok to tell lies about him”, essentially. You think Corbyn is a twat? Cool, more power to you. It’s still kinda still not ok to report lies as if they’re news though, obviously.

Actually it is not a lie that Corbyn called for an inquiry into pro-Israeli influences as he re-iterated the lawyers calls for an inquiry

I have seen a video and immediately after the lawyers call he says can I just add to that, so Bright is not making this up.

I have seen the clip on youtube of the press conference,He is endorses the lawyers calls asking for a public inquiry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KlgQlHGioE&feature=player_embedded

Yeah, I’m happy to hold my hands up and say from that clip (fantastically, and quite unbiasedly, entitled ‘investigate the devious jews’) it’s impossible to infer anything other than ‘backs inquiry into pro-Israel lobby etc blah blah’.
See the whole press conference however and suddenly it’s just a reiteration of Corbyn’s own rant about an unaccountable home secretary (something, shockingly, I agree with, despite total indifference to some phantom Ireasli lobby. Attributing this ‘Jewish influence’ thing to him is ever so slightly bullshit, hence the word ‘lie’ on so many lips. It all seems to be coming back to ‘since he didn’t specifically condemn the ‘pro-Israel lobby’ remarks from Salah’s lawyer, he must totally wholeheartedly support them. He may do, I don’t know, but simply saying he does because you want to make him look shit is pretty bad journalism.

http://vimeo.com/40091555

(since inference is the order of the day, I’ll clear something up: I actually do think Corbyn is a twat)

Just to clear up, TC (for Thomas Clark) was hastily entered on a mobile browser, using laptop I appear full named. Should probs fix that.

(also, as a side note, pretty sure saying ‘pro-isreal lobbly’ is no more anti-semitic then saying ‘Saudi-influence’ is islamaphobic. These are countries, not ethnicities)

24 sally who are these pro isreali lobby, (laoburs friends of israel) some of them are backing ken, is it wrong for them to point out ken has form for this.

I am not endorsing the title of the clip just showing it as evidence of what happened in press conference

i really dont understand how anyone with any intellectual honesy can see it as anything other than an endorsement of the lawyers calls for an enquiry

but it seems that the plan here is not intelectual honsety but attacking Bright an the Jewish Chronicle,

Wasnt the author of this article the same person that was happy to reference Roger Garaudy in his book?

Can we really trust the judgement of a man who is happy to reference Garaudy, who said “the genocide of Jews by the Nazis during the Second World War was “invented as a myth by Churchill, Eisenhower and De Gaulle” to justify the destruction and occupation of Germany.”?

51. modernity's ghost

LC should be more candid about Ben White’s views.

White once wrote in Counterpunch:

http://www.counterpunch.org/2002/06/18/is-it-possible-to-understand-the-rise-in-anti-semitism/

“I was somewhat startled by this, since I do not consider myself an anti-Semite, yet I can also understand why some are.”

So it is hardly a surprise that Ben White disagrees with the Jewish Chronicle, is it?

52. Stephen Marks

It was good of ‘modernity’s ghost’ to give a link to the original article in which Ben White made his oft-quoted statement that ‘I do not consider myself an anti-Semite, yet I can also understand why some are’. I cannot believe that any fair-minded and honest person who reads the remark in its full context can possibly use it to smear the author as anti-semitic.

Ben White has done a great deal of painstaking work in documenting the institutionally racist nature of the Israeli state. It is typical of Israel’s more unscrupulous apologists that they should play the man not the ball, and instead of attempting to refute his detailed evidence, should twist his words and substitute character assassination for argument.

49. Isolate that part you linked to and of course that’s the conclusion you’ll draw (I certainly would too), as it cuts entirely Corbyn’s previous diatribe about having an inquiry into the accountability of the Home Secretry, seeing as how the law has just overturned her ruling, finding it to be based on false assertions (all there in the video of the full press conference I linked too).

Saying he’s simply endorsing the lawyer’s rant about Israeli influence in your short clip requires a big old fashioned intellectual redaction of that whole earlier spiel (or, handily, a smaller, edited clip that doesn’t show it). Some might call that intellectual dishonesty.

“More recently, the paper was embarrassed by revelations it had been hosting blog posts by the BNP’s mayoral candidate for London.”

Another smear. The BNP candidate wrote in the JC because any reader could set up a blog. As soon it was discovered who Cosiglia was, the blog was discontinued.

Did the JC host Cosiglia’s blog? Yes. Was it embarrassed when it found out it had been so doing? Hell yes. Did it deliberately choose to host Cosiglia’s blog? No, but the quoted text doesn’t claim it did.

55. modernity's ghost

“I cannot believe that any fair-minded and honest person who reads the remark in its full context can possibly use it to smear the author as anti-semitic.”

Stephen Marks is absolutely right, I had assumed that most people would use Google and find the whole article but please read it.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2002/06/18/is-it-possible-to-understand-the-rise-in-anti-semitism/

My point was simple, Ben White doesn’t like the Jewish Chronicle. Never has.

So to paraphrase Mandy Rice Davies, he would say that wouldn’t he?

Clearly if you share some of Ben White’s views on other subjects then you may feel you need to support him when he has a go at the Jewish Chronicle.

All I’m saying is that, it is to be expected, that is the nature of political malice.

Therefore, you can’t really complain about your (perceived) political opponents using such techniques, if you indulge in them yourself.

56. sackcloth and ashes

‘Sackcloth shouldn’t link to hate sites’.

Says the apologist for Bosnian Serb war-crimes, and the Rwanda genocide denier.

Sackcloth doesn’t like the fact i exposed one of his heroes, Paul Kagame as a mass-murderer. Who’s the denier?

ps i see he doesn’t even bother trying to deny that Harry’s Place (founded by a hard-line Stalinist) is a hate site.

Here’s what one their former allies wrote, before it became even worse.

http://greatersurbiton.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/the-trouble-with-harrys-place/

Racism, misogyny, incitement to violence – all can be overlooked when a member of your sad little circle of groupies is the guilty party. But God forbid that anyone should hold you accountable for what appears in the comment boxes of your own website, or that anyone interfere with the right of freaks and psychos to defame and abuse whomever they want while cowering behind anonymity.

They make a desert, and they call it peace.

They make a cesspool, and they call it ‘freedom of speech’.

John B

Erm, no it doesn’t.

” More recently, the paper was embarrassed by revelations it had been hosting blog posts by the BNP’s mayoral candidate for London”

LC isn’t a exactly a cornucopia of fact and reason, articles do occasionally appear with inaccuracies, but here you’re just grasping (poorly) for errors in the hope of making this particular piece look bad.

59. sackcloth and ashes

‘Sackcloth doesn’t like the fact i exposed one of his heroes, Paul Kagame as a mass-murderer’.

You did no such thing, nightsoil:

http://shirazsocialist.wordpress.com/2010/07/13/nocide-denial-here-we-go-again/

‘i see he doesn’t even bother trying to deny that Harry’s Place (founded by a hard-line Stalinist) is a hate site’.

They banned you from the site for anti-Semitic trolling, which basically confirms how much of a distortion this statement is.

But then what else can one expect from someone who combines neo-Nazi politics with Rwanda and Srebrenica denial?

60. Samir S. Halabi

Jeremy Corbyn is a supporter of Arabs against israel
He would just wish for the jewish strate to be destroyed by those vermin Jew-hating scum. before world war two many so called true Englishmen and women cursed jews and told them to go home to Palestine where they all belong. The same dimwits and mostly the the libereral left nopw say that all Jews should leave the whole of Palestine as they consider Israel as an illegal state. Jeremy Corbyn is just one of those people who also consider israel as an illegal state. If israel was to disappear tomorrow the Arabs would still be at each other’s throats, and the world wouldn’t be any safer from suicide bombers and terrorists.
Jeremy corby may say he has nothing against Jews, however to deny a national home for the Jewish people, to deligitimize the Jewish state, to deny the right of self determination of the Jewish people to have a state of their own and to repeat that Zionism is racism therefore there shouldn’t be a Jewish national aspiration just like the ANC or any other national aspirations of any other group of people is wishtantamount to racism in it’s self. Zionism is the national aspiration of the Jewish people world-wide. If the jews would have had a state at the time of Nazi Germany’s Third Reich in 1933 possibly the six million Jews would have been saved. Jeremy Corbyn should go to hell with all his Arab terrorist supporters. jermy Corbyn is an enemy of the Jewish are anti-Zionists who are self hating Jews and want to be loved by their anti-Israel gentile colleagues. There is no greate enemy of the Jewish people than those stinking renegades.

The neo-nazi Samir S. Halabi describes Arabs as “vermin”. Don’t complain about the deligitimation of Zionism whilst coming out with shit like that mate.

Sackcloth is still defending Paul Kagame who is currently carrying out a campaign of assassination against his political enemies and former comrades. Something he’s like to extend here.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/20/rwanda-exiles-warned-assassination-threat

‘Rwandan exiles warned of assassination threat by London police. Two dissidents living in London told that Rwandan government poses imminent risk to their lives.’

Just think what Kagame does to people nearer to home.

ps Anyone who knows anything about Jim Denham’s alcohol fuelled fantasies knows that he defames anyone who speaks up for the rights of Palestinians as an anti-semite.

I have challenged Denham and his minions to provide a shred of evidence that I have said anything remotely anti-semitic – they have refused. This is a smear tactic just like the one employed by Martin Bright.

ps Do you call Palestinian refugees ex-pats like Jim Denham? Do you deny Palestinians their rights under international law, like Jim Denham?

Left Not Liberal re Comment 61:

“The neo-nazi Samir S. Halabi describes Arabs as “vermin”.

As I read it Samir Halabi’s use of the word vermin in comment 60 refers to ‘arabs against Israel’ not to ‘Arabs’ in general.

He didn’t use apostrophes as I have just done – but, nevertheless, that’s how I read it.

He also said Jeremy Corbyn is “stinking”. I don’t think he meant he is smelly.

On this board I have read people call Tories vermin or scum. It’s a way of talking that some irate people have. Not at all helpful really but I suppose it adds credence to their opinions.

64. Samir S. Halabi

How dare you call me a Neo-Nazi you dirty stinking Jew-hating piece of double-vermin. The Saudis and the rest of the Arab world keep up their daily tirade of of mocking all Judaism, calling them the sons of apes and pigs and how they want to rid the world of every single Jew, you obviously agree, and you call me a Neo-Nazi.
I have been attacked on several occasions by North African Arabs in Paris and Bruxelles when visiting elderly relatives. So what else do you want me to say when they attacked me for being a Jew. My family fled the killing spree by Arabs on the Jewish community of Aleppo in 1947, many of our family members were butchered to
death by those vermin, because that is precisely what they are, they ripped babies out of the arms of their mother’s and smashed their heads against walls. So go on support these scum you deserve each other.

Aide memoire:

The terrorist bombing of the King David Hotel, Jerusalem, on 22 July 1946, was organised by Menachem Begin, who went on to become prime minister of Israel 1977-83. By reports, 91 people were killed and 46 injured by this atrocity.

The Deir Yassin massacre took place on April 9, 1948, when around 120 fighters from the Irgun Zevai Leumi and Lohamei Herut Israel Zionist paramilitary groups attacked Deir Yassin near Jerusalem, a Palestinian-Arab village of roughly 600 people. Around 107 villagers were killed during and after the battle for the village, including women and children—some were shot, while others died when hand grenades were thrown into their homes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre

On the night of 14-15 October 1953 “. . Unit 101 was commanded by an aggressive and ambitious young major named Ariel Sharon. Sharon’s order was to penetrate Qibya, blow up houses, and inflict heavy casualties on its inhabitants. His success in carrying out this order surpassed all expectations. The full and macabre story of what happened at Qibya was revealed only during the morning after the attack. The village had been reduced to a pile of rubble: forty-five houses had been blown up, and sixty-nine civiliains, two-thirds of them women and children, had been killed. Sharon and his men claimed that they had no idea that anyone was hiding in the houses. The UN observer who inspected the reached a different conclusion: ‘One story was repeated time after time: the bullet splintered door, the body sprawled across the threshold, indicating that the inhabitants had been forced by heavy fire to stay inside until their homes were blown up over them.’”
Avi Shlaim: The Iron Wall (Penguin Books, 2001), p.91.

66. modernity's ghost

Bob B, how many times to you re-paste those links? 20? 40 times?

It is a real pity that such threads degenerate so.

@66: “Bob B, how many times to you re-paste those links? 20? 40 times?”

Israeli atrocities tend to be regularly covered over in order to heap damnation upon Palestinians so I reckon it’s worth recalling some of the history that gets overlooked.

Naturally, I’m well used to being called all sorts of unpleasant things for doing so. Try reading Avi Shlaim: The Iron Wall (Penguin Books) for a more rounded account of the Palestine conflict. I doubt that we’ll ever see a resolution of the conflict unless we recognise and publicise the extent of Israeli atrocities as well as exposing the blatant hypocrisy of the Israeli complaints about terrorism.

68. modernity's ghost

Bob B,

Yes, you do repeat yourself a lot, constantly painting all Israelis in a bad light.

In fact, according to Google you’ve been re-pasting the same text since at least 2006.

6 years ago.

That’s your right, but readers may want to read your comments at Crooked Timber, http://crookedtimber.org/2006/07/13/lebanon-and-gaza/

It is a bit obsessive, isn’t it Bob?

6+ years of re-pasting the same old text?

69. T FLETCHER

Why is it that the truth and facts are only required by someone making racist remarks against the jews?


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