Comments on: What yesterday’s Welfare Bill defeat means for the government and activists http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/02/15/what-yesterdays-welfare-bill-defeat-means-for-the-government-and-activists/ Left-wing news, opinion and activism Wed, 02 Dec 2015 19:06:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.11 By: Anon E Mouse http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/02/15/what-yesterdays-welfare-bill-defeat-means-for-the-government-and-activists/#comment-356949 Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:38:56 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=30197#comment-356949 @7 – BenM

I’m not too sure where you get your “facts” from since YouGov showed 70% odd of Labour voters support the housing benefit cuts. Perhaps they too agree that to put minimum wage earner’s taxes into the pockets of greedy landlords is just wrong.

Funny how the Labour Party has been hijacked by the types of people who think that it is acceptable to behave in such an unfair way towards working people.

Where people’s taxes go is of absolute primary importance. If we follow your logic in that we’ll end up with a government that steals our money in expenses and spends £millions on overseas conflicts or £billions on ID Card schemes and the like.

Your views are not shared by the majority of Labour voters BenM and I think it’s time you joined the Socialist Workers Party or some other such collection of nutters with unpopular desires.

Your opinions are not welcome to real Labour voters in this country and it’s time to go elsewhere and let the party start representing the workers again…

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By: christina sosseh http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/02/15/what-yesterdays-welfare-bill-defeat-means-for-the-government-and-activists/#comment-356765 Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:38:59 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=30197#comment-356765 What yesterday’s Welfare Bill defeat means for the government and activists | Liberal Conspiracy http://t.co/cQKZ5TZK via @libcon

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By: BenM http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/02/15/what-yesterdays-welfare-bill-defeat-means-for-the-government-and-activists/#comment-356695 Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:12:03 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=30197#comment-356695 6. Anon E Mouse

It is rightwingers who obsess about such irrelevancies.

Most working class people just want a job to feed and house their families. Nothing more, nothing less.

The Tories and the coalition are denying them this.

Where their taxes go is of secondary importance. Its importance inflated by those like you with other intentions – none of them pro working class.

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By: Anon E Mouse http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/02/15/what-yesterdays-welfare-bill-defeat-means-for-the-government-and-activists/#comment-356440 Thu, 16 Feb 2012 06:38:51 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=30197#comment-356440 @4 – Rentergirl

No Labour government is going to reverse this bill because when a minimum wage worker pays their taxes to line the pockets of greedy landlords and keep people who don’t work in better housing than themselves it simply isn’t fair.

Along with the unfairness of the current system in respect of housing benefit there used to be a time when the Labour Party cared about the plight of the working class.

I know that seems hard to believe with a countess toff as deputy leader and the likes of the tax avoiding millionaire leader who hasn’t worked a day in his life but it’s true.

The days of supporting the workers seem a long time ago and now the Guardian reading middle class luvvies and childish socialist dreamers who contaminate the Labour Party need to go elsewhere and let the people get their party back…

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By: Mason Dixon, Autistic http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/02/15/what-yesterdays-welfare-bill-defeat-means-for-the-government-and-activists/#comment-356414 Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:05:39 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=30197#comment-356414 @1

Pay attention much? The Commons can not overturn concessions Freud himself gave.

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By: rentergirl http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/02/15/what-yesterdays-welfare-bill-defeat-means-for-the-government-and-activists/#comment-356409 Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:42:55 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=30197#comment-356409 I still want a strong commitment from Labour on reversing the bill: not just the parts that gain easy sympathy when they effect disabled people and children, but the parts about housing benefit and halting proper JSa rises.

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By: David Davies http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/02/15/what-yesterdays-welfare-bill-defeat-means-for-the-government-and-activists/#comment-356445 Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:39:21 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=30197#comment-356445 What yesterday’s Welfare Bill defeat means for the government and activists ~ http://t.co/6V1cB7oY

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By: Nick H. http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/02/15/what-yesterdays-welfare-bill-defeat-means-for-the-government-and-activists/#comment-356446 Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:19:41 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=30197#comment-356446 What yesterday's Welfare Bill defeat means for the government and activists http://t.co/6Ik3nIUw

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By: Cylux http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/02/15/what-yesterdays-welfare-bill-defeat-means-for-the-government-and-activists/#comment-356402 Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:18:13 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=30197#comment-356402

Which group of people should the public have power over next?

Pensioners, if the public really care more about the nation’s finances than people. The pension bill dwarfs the JSA and DLA bills combined after all. I’m sure the tabloids could drum up support for a Logan’s run option by using phrases like ‘oxygen thief’ or ‘morgue cheater’ in place of ‘retired pensioner’ or ‘elderly person’, and making up stories about foreigners trying to get here in order to take advantage of our generous winter fuel payments scheme cos we’re all a bunch of fucking mugs that are too soft. Or some such.

(Although I’m joking, I’ve a horrible feeling that I’ve just gone and given Richard Desmond an idea for Friday’s Express…)

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By: Kyron Hodgetts http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/02/15/what-yesterdays-welfare-bill-defeat-means-for-the-government-and-activists/#comment-356447 Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:10:03 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=30197#comment-356447 What yesterday's Welfare Bill defeat means for the government and activists http://t.co/6Ik3nIUw

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By: TheCreativeCrip http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/02/15/what-yesterdays-welfare-bill-defeat-means-for-the-government-and-activists/#comment-356448 Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:00:36 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=30197#comment-356448 What yesterday's Welfare Bill defeat means for the government and activists http://t.co/6Ik3nIUw

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By: James http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/02/15/what-yesterdays-welfare-bill-defeat-means-for-the-government-and-activists/#comment-356398 Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:55:14 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=30197#comment-356398 @1

Maybe if the public had the first fucking clue about the true facts of the benefit system their opinion would be worth something, unfortunately that isn’t the case, the thick mindless cretins are being spoon fed their daily propaganda and are making their decisions based on that. That’s the only reason 80% of the public back it, nice to see so many people with a desire for a demagoguery though,

Which group of people should the public have power over next?

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By: Little Linden http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/02/15/what-yesterdays-welfare-bill-defeat-means-for-the-government-and-activists/#comment-356449 Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:14:05 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=30197#comment-356449 RT @leftlinks Liberal Conspiracy – What yesterday’s Welfare Bill defeat means for the government and activists http://t.co/qEyr60iF

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By: Awkward Silence http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/02/15/what-yesterdays-welfare-bill-defeat-means-for-the-government-and-activists/#comment-356394 Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:12:08 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=30197#comment-356394 Pyrrhic victory. 80% of the public support the bill, and the amendment will be swiftly overturned in the commons.

You won nothing apart from the sympathies of a few truculent, powerless crossbench bleeding hearts.

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By: BevR http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/02/15/what-yesterdays-welfare-bill-defeat-means-for-the-government-and-activists/#comment-356450 Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:45:07 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=30197#comment-356450 What yesterday’s Welfare Bill defeat means for the government and activists | Liberal Conspiracy http://t.co/38nZRyAc via @libcon

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By: Lilacwheelz http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/02/15/what-yesterdays-welfare-bill-defeat-means-for-the-government-and-activists/#comment-356451 Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:13:01 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=30197#comment-356451 What yesterday's Welfare Bill defeat means for the government and activists http://t.co/6Ik3nIUw

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By: BevR http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/02/15/what-yesterdays-welfare-bill-defeat-means-for-the-government-and-activists/#comment-356452 Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:09:20 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=30197#comment-356452 RT @leftlinks Liberal Conspiracy – What yesterday’s Welfare Bill defeat means for the government and activists http://t.co/qEyr60iF

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By: Virginia Moffatt http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/02/15/what-yesterdays-welfare-bill-defeat-means-for-the-government-and-activists/#comment-356453 Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:56:26 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=30197#comment-356453 What yesterday's Welfare Bill defeat means for the government and activists http://t.co/6Ik3nIUw

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By: Alice in Blunderland http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/02/15/what-yesterdays-welfare-bill-defeat-means-for-the-government-and-activists/#comment-356454 Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:45:17 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=30197#comment-356454 RT @leftlinks Liberal Conspiracy – What yesterday’s Welfare Bill defeat means for the government and activists http://t.co/qEyr60iF

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