Obviously this makes it rather difficult for the parasites to “win” trust.

Or is there a single apparatchik of that party of genocidal, organlegging, war criminals who can claim they don’t know how to end the recession?

“Or are you just belching out simplistic reactionary claptrap?”

Ooh, ooh! I know!

I’m pretty sure that our learned friend Hoongdiddy gets all of his/her factual beliefs based on whatever he/she read in the Daily Mail this week, then cheerfully vomits them up onto this site in the belief the he/she is Raising Challenging Points.

Over on another thread, Hoongdiddy has just explained that OccupyLSX need to be followed by the cops as they’re Marxists, and therefore responsible for the greatest mass-murder in the last century. Who’d have known?

Oh my god, pomposity meter about to break. All those cold, starving dears with flatscreen TVs, 5 kids and sky TV.

What all of them?

You’ve done a survey?

Or are you just belching out simplistic reactionary claptrap?

Oh my god, pomposity meter about to break. All those cold, starving dears with flatscreen TVs, 5 kids and sky TV. You ass.

@24 – Absolutely. It’s crackdown on skilled workers hurt it with the left. For the rest, if you’re suggesting that Labour needs to appeal to the EDL and BNP…go join them.

The reality is it’s mal-adjusted buffoons like you that are ensuring that the far right will continue to grow. The EDL and BNP are beginning to appeal to many more people than you would give credit for. Perhaps if the Labour party did what they were supposed to – represent the working class instead of the guilt complexes of the middle class, women who just keep getting pregnant, and those who aren’t white (that’s racism if you didn’t get it that way round) then they might be more popular.

I voted labour, many of my friends certainly my entire family did until you turned your backs on the working class that put you there in the first place. 100 years of union achievements – swept aside by importing a cheaper workforce for the sack of economic growth and re-election – and the arrogant so-and-sos say “it’s jobs you don’t want to do, they work harder than you – have some benefits and sit on your backside deary”

Now I sit looking at the far-right thinking “even though I don’t agree with most of their policy, these guys actually represent me”

What Labour did to this country will never be forgotton. My nephews can’t go to the same school as my sister and I becuase the school has said the places are for non-UK children (i.e. Polish) and they now have to travel another 2 miles to a school in chav central. Labour has ruined this school as well by creating the epidemic of “entitled” dickheads who populate the other school. Feckless white trash.

You have taxed me out of existance to pay for “the most vulnerable”. personally I couldn’t give a tom titt about the “most vulnerable”. “Most vulnerable” = single mothers, Asians, African Immigrants and anyone apart from white working class males, you know, the ones that pay for everything, fight wars etc.

Labour are utter selfish bastards, only concerned with the agenda for their special interest groups, hijacking words like “fair” and twisting their meaning so far out of shape it’s like 1984.

As I said, utter bastards, and entirelyu unforgivable.

I’m sure you find killing the poor with cold and starvation entirely acceptable, as the Tories do. I don’t.

@24 – Absolutely. It’s crackdown on skilled workers hurt it with the left. For the rest, if you’re suggesting that Labour needs to appeal to the EDL and BNP…go join them.

Given the choice between a fake Tory and a real Tory, people will vote for the real Tory every time. That, of course, is before we even consider the disaster that is Osbornomics. We need a real economic strategy and a real economic debate – and you won’t achieve either of them by pretending to be Cameron 5.0. We need to move away from the failed American model, look at how Germany and Scandinavia have prospered – and reinvent the British economy on that basis.

On the economy at least, voters have no good reason not to trust Labour. I’m sorry, but if we’re already right (which we are), it makes no sense and is probably unethical to change our position just to pander to voters like some sort of supermarket chain.

The only way forward for the Labour party is to own up to the mistake Alistair Darling made in signing up to austerity, learn to love the deficit as the correct solution to stimulating the economy, and move on to the real concern: unemployment.