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How Osborne will force more disabled people out of work


11:30 am - October 13th 2011

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contribution by Richard Shrubb

Thanks George, you’ve just made it much harder for disabled people to go back to work! At the Conservative Party conference the Chancellor told his party:

So we’re now going to make it much less risky for businesses to hire people. We will double to two years the amount of time you can employ someone before the risk of an unfair dismissal claim.

A 2009 survey suggested that 92% of Britons would worry that revealing their mental health issues to an employer would harm their career prospects.

My fear, as someone who has mental health issues, is that under Osborne’s proposals my career could be ended summarily without redress for up to 2 years after I had joined someone’s company.

As it is I’d have to hold it in for a year but being eccentric at best, two years would be like trying to hold a particularly large fart in for far too long in polite company. Sooner or later it will squeeze out. I could be fired on the spot for letting my mental health issues become apparent.

Would I be protected under the Disability Discrimination Act? I have looked at this as part of my journalism research.

Under the DDA you can only be protected at work if you declare your disability at interview. Many people feel that interviewers would find some unspecified reason other than disability to not hire you in the first place. As such those people cannot be protected under the DDA at work because they have not declared it at the outset.

I choose to work in a high pressure environment. But I choose to do it at home as a freelancer, in large part due to my eccentricities. I have been working for 2 years straight to control my behaviour by adjusting the sedative medication I take and therefore the amount of caffeine I must take to counteract it.

Though a lot better I still have days where those who don’t know my mental health condition have the wits scared out of them as I have a wobble. This would guarantee I would be disciplined, and potentially thrown out without redress.

This flies in the face of the Coalition’s “chuck ’em off benefits” policy.

Those not ready to go back to work (despite Atos doctors saying otherwise) basically have an impossible task on returning to employment – hiding their mental health issues for 40 hours a week for fear of instant dismissal without redress.

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1. Limiting Factor

Its all about increasing the sum total of human misery – its what the Tories do best, you know, that crushing the human spirit thing. Oh, for fun and profit. And no, this is not satire.

Even if you can’t get them on unfair dismissal in the case of disability you could still get them on discrimination.

“Under the DDA you can only be protected at work if you declare your disability at interview.”

That’s not quite right. You can only complain of indirect discrimination or failure to make adjustements after the disability has been declared, but this can be at any time.

Direct discrimination is always unlawful.

However, your conclusion is still correct because if an employer wants to fire you within the first year (soon to be two) then they can just not give any reason at all, and there will be nothing you can do as there will be no way to show it is discriminatory.

The DDA was largwly replaced by the Equalities

The DDA has been largely replaced by the Equalities Act and I haven’t noticed any real change in the way I am treated.

The problem is with ATOS, who are pretty much a blunt instrument, and the responsibility of the last government. Pretending this is some Evil Tory war on the disabled – Its all about increasing the sum total of human misery, etc – just doesn’t wash: this is State bureaucracy doing what it does best, which is serving the needs of State bureaucracy.

Shatterface: “Pretending this is some Evil Tory war on the disabled – Its all about increasing the sum total of human misery, etc – just doesn’t wash”

True, they’re probably not actually motivated by random malevolence – but I do find it hard to see how anyone could possibly have designed the system now being inflicted on disability benefit claimants, unless their real aim was to deny the benefits to as many people as possible regardless of the merits of their cases. Meanwhile government-supporting papers run endless smear stories depicting those randomly kicked off benefits as fraudulent foreign scrounger types. It all may have been done with the aim of saving money, rather than because they actually hate the disabled, but the end result is the same.

And I really don’t care which of the two parties started this policy: any decent government would reverse it.

I appreciate you want to work, but look at it from the employer’s side.

He hires you in good faith while you conceal some aspect of yourself from him. This is an aspect that you admit you cannot fully control and that can potentially frighten your co-workers or clients.

If such a situation does occur and he subsequently fires you, you want to be able to take him to court for redress.

I see you are in an impossible situation and I can see the reason to lie to your employer – but I think it’s a bit rich to complain you can’t sue if you later get found out.

The under law you do not need to tell an employer of your disablity if that disablity does not give rise to risk to your self or to others, and you can claim under the DDA even if your employers does not know, they should have carried out a medical…

9. So Much For Subtlety

How is this going to hurt the chances of the disabled being employed?

At the moment, employers may have only a year. If in that year they see any sign of mental illness, they will fire you. They cannot risk having someone with actual, serious mental health issues working for them. So they will make sure by watching for any sign. Now they have two years.

That may well mean they will take a chance on someone they like, or someone they feel could make a contribution, to see if they will work out. They have longer before they need to bite the bullet. That is more likely to increase the chances of a mentally ill person being employed.

You reduce the costs of employing the mentally ill to the employer – and being stuck with someone who is seriously disruptive to the work place is a serious cost which is why the public service has pages and pages of information it wants on your mental health before they will give you a job – and more employers will employ. Simple as that.

10. Leon Wolfson

And you increase the cost on everyone else because wage demands will rise as a direct result of lesser rights. *claps*

And people with mental health issues will still be fired by people like you, who think they’re just evil.

11. James from Durham

You can’t win with MR Subtlety can you. If you sit back and claim benefits he will criticise that. If you attempt to find work the best you can, he still dumps on you. He just doesn’t like people….

So is he admitting everything he said about all ESA claimants being able to work was bollcks then?

13. So Much For Subtlety

12. Tom (iow)

So is he admitting everything he said about all ESA claimants being able to work was bollcks then?

Sorry but where did I say all ESA claimants were able to work?

Why do you feel the need to make stuff up Tom? Lying is not going to help.

14. Leon Wolfson

@13 – True, you just said that the vast majority were. You might admit a few percent were actually disabled…

In this thread you advocate abolishing ESA:

http://liberalconspiracy.org/2011/02/15/how-many-disabled-people-are-unfit-for-work-not-as-much-as-govt-claima/

and in another you advocated six months compulsory work for anyone on benefits.

So a fortiori you either claim they can work, or are happy to see disabled people left with no money to survive. I was going for the more favourable interpretation to you.


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