Tories uneasy at Cam’s dismissal of women


by Sunny Hundal    
September 7, 2011 at 9:05 pm

Remember when right-wingers laughed off accusations of sexism by Labour MPs when George Osborne said “calm down dear” to Angela Eagle MP?

At the time, lefties were accused of being excessively politically correct. But that sentiment seems to vanish when its one of their own.

Today at PMQs, Cameron called Nadine Dorries “frustrated” after she asked: “Isn’t it about time he told the Deputy Prime Minister who is the boss?”

Watch the exchange below

Paul Goodman at ConservativeHome wrote:

The Prime Minister may not have meant to put her down by first saying that he knows she’s “frustrated”, and then giving up his answer after laughter from MPs, but that was the effect. It was somehow displeasing.

James Forsyth at the Spectator CoffeeHouse:

Cameron replied ‘I know the honourable lady is extremely frustrated’ at which the House descended into puerile laughter. The double entendre appeared unintentional, Cameron seemed slightly taken aback by the House’s reaction at first, but having made it he should have tried to respectfully answer her question rather than just sitting down.

And a Tory MP told the Guardian’s Nicholas Watt:

The prime minister’s behaviour was despicable. It was the worst of the Bullingdon. It was a total demolition of Nadine Dorries on a personal basis. The prime minister made no effort to engage in the argument. It is deeply unpleasant. But then that is no surprise. Just look at George Osborne’s face when the prime minister told a female Labour MP to ‘calm down dear’. His faced creased with laughter. They just think it is all a joke.

Those are all good points, and the Prime Minister should have answered the question rather than trying to just embarrass her.

But can Tories really expect proper standards when they laugh off such behaviour when it comes to Labour women? To be fair to James Forsyth he did say Cameron’s calm down dear remark was “certainly ill-judged”. Many others however felt it was fine.


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Oh so now you’re on her side!

Er, surely it was Cam who said “calm down dear” to Angela Eagle?
And your point (should be) that’s he’s becoming a serial offender?

Don’t do this. There is nothing whatsoever good about having this woman in politics.

Much as I despise Nadine Dorres and everything she stands for, there was no excuse for Cameron’s behaviour. She remains a duly elected MP and has the same rights as any other member. If the PM can just laugh off a stupid PMQ, he can laugh off a sensible one.

Come on people, it was a throw away line from Cameron. You cannot blame Cameron because the back benches cackle like schoolboys. Cameron does plently of other things that we SHOULD be highlighting, but use of the word ‘frustrated’ is not one of them.

6. Chaise Guevara

What Jim says above. It doesn’t sound as if the remark was meant to be in any way offensive, and it’s not Cameron’s fault if more childish members of the house interpreted it in a way he didn’t intend. I certainly don’t see how you get from “Cameron describes a female MP as ‘frustrated’, probably accurately” to “Cameron dismisses women”.

Puerile laughter is business as usual for the HoC. Cameron does enough things in real life that need to be opposed, there’s no need to invent stuff.

Im sorry but I dont know see the hidden meaning, can someone enlighten me?

Even if the woman is as mad as a box of frogs, and indeed Satan’s representative on earth, Dave Gimmick was bang out of order. I miss having a grown up as PM.

Yes, he’s now a serial offender. I also think it comes across as though Cameron didn’t immediately mean it, but he then reinforced the ‘joke’ rather than being respectful. Nadine Dorries’ politics may be vile, but that doesn’t mean that it’s a free for all, and the usual rules like “sexism is bad” fall away.

@Richard and Chris – this is about the fact that the PM shouldn’t be using puerile sexist remarks as a way to deflate female MPs, whatever the substance (or lack thereof) of their comments.

@Dave it think the hidden meaning is kind of like when school boys laugh at the word boobies..or bum. So frustrated as in sexually but even cam the sham was a little take aback by the comment… He allowed his piers to laugh him down he must have thought hed been offensive and sat down in order to not embarrass himself i think his brain rebooted at that moment which shut down his mouth by default

11. Chaise Guevara

@ 10

Exactly. He hadn’t meant it to be taken that way, he was obviously surprised that it was, and he seemed to sit down because he didn’t want to be involved in that nonsense.

Sunny, you’re making me defend David Cameron. Please stop it.

Interesting to see all the comments here are made by men? Cameron should have been aware at the response of his comments and corrected them immediately but to be fair the response of the house is typical of the sexism that pervades politics in general.

Amazing We get to comment 13 without anyone pointing out that Nadine Dorries appeared on Newsnight to say Cameron had rung her to say he hadn’t meant it to come out as it dis and that she totally accepted his explanation and expression of regret.

Bit of a problem with the truth, have we?

@10 – Thanks, Still dont really get whats so funny about it but must be what circles you roll in.

@12 – Interesting to see all the comments here are made by men?

Is this a question or a statement, if a question the answer is no, if a statement I’d like to know whats interesting about it?

Yes, I thought it was a nasty moment, but those suggesting the sexism came from the oafish backbenchers and not actually Cameron himself are probably right. Though this is hardly comforting.

Bit disappointed that people at the start of these comments can’t distinguish between legitimate criticism of a completely deluded and dishonest MP, and puerile sex-based insults.

The former makes an essential contribution to the quality of Parliamentary debate; the latter does quite the opposite and is thus harmful well beyond the embarrassment it causes one person.

“Amazing We get to comment 13 without anyone pointing out that Nadine Dorries appeared on Newsnight to say Cameron had rung her to say he hadn’t meant it to come out as it dis and that she totally accepted his explanation and expression of regret.”

Ha Ha Ha
You really are a party warrior, Flowerpotman
He did mean it as it came out and our Nadine has had a call from a spin doctor, for damage limitation purposes.
Personally the whole issue is nonsense. Politics is a tough profession. Some of these women need to develop tougher skins


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