Published: May 12th 2011 - at 3:53 pm

73% of Libdem members hate NHS plans


by Newswire    

73% of Libdem party members are unhappy with the government’s NHS plans and thought it was doing a bad job on them.

The figure is just below the 77% who are unhappy with the Libdem u-turn on tuition fees. The sentiments were polled by YouGov, out today.

David Cameron will find it very difficult to push NHS plans as planned without Libdem support in Parliament.

66% of Libdem party activists think the Coalition has been bad for the Lib Dems, including 21% who thought it has been disastrous.

Keep in mind that these are activists and party members who still remain loyal, not the ones who have left already.

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Nick Clegg also received a thumbs-down from his own party, with 56% of activists thinking he was a liability to the Yes2AV campaign.

Only 50% think he is doing well as Deputy Prime Minister and Leader of the Liberal Democrats.

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And this is rather startling. 24% of Libdem activists who still remain within the party see themselves as ‘fairly left-wing’, with another 40% thinking of themselves as ‘slightly left-of-centre’ and 21% at the centre.

Only 8% of Libdem activists thought of themselves as ‘slighty right-of-centre’. But nearly a quarter thought Nick Clegg was right-of centre. In fact most Libdem members think Clegg is to the right of them.


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“In fact Nick Clegg is thought of as to the right of most Libdem members.”

STOP PRESS: Large ursine mammal spotted heading into forest with roll of Andrex under its arm.

That’s not telling us we didn’t already know, is it?

The majority of Lib Dems are lefties – but they are _liberal_ first, and were put off Labour by things like detention without trial, the Digital Economy Act, Iraq, etc.

If Labour tack in a more liberal direction then they will pick up more of the core Lib Dems – which is what the SNP did in Scotland.

I told you so.

Recap: this editorial in the British Medical Journal on 21 January 2011:

“What do you call a government that embarks on the biggest upheaval of the NHS in its 63 year history, at breakneck speed, while simultaneously trying to make unprecedented financial savings? The politically correct answer has got to be: mad. . . ”
http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.d408.full

Evidently, most LibDem members agree with the editors of the BMJ.

Where does all this leave Paul Burstow, the LibDem MP and minister of state in the department of Health?

5. Martin Young

Does it matter to Libdem Ministers what the members think. It didn’t under Labour.

“Does it matter to Libdem Ministers what the members think. It didn’t under Labour.”

C’mon. The LibDems keep claiming they are more democratic than the other mainstream parties in the ways they make party policy decisions.

Besides, whenever were the workings of how Labour governments did or didn’t do things supposed to serve as mandatory guidelines for the LibDems? In Sutton, which is Burstow’s constituency, the LibDems endlessly pour out that the Labour Party doesn’t count and the only effective choice that local voters have is between the LibDems and the Conservatives.

There is something in that call: the local Conservatives are mostly horrible or daft and leading members of the diminishingly small Labour goup on the local council gained a series of criminal convictions – for smuggling and then for corruption in public office, at the last count – I joke not. At the general election last year, Burstow’s Conservative opponent reportedly believed that those with same-sex inclinations should be cured by exorcism. Having lost out at the election, she was promptly appointed a Special Adviser to IDS in the Department of Work and Pensions.

Local voters really have little real choice. IMO Burstow’s personal recipe for re-election is to present himself as a nicer Conservative whom saner local Conservatives can safely vote for.

Lib Dems: For those of us who are batting for either the unions nor the rich!

These news reports reflect my view of politicians too:

“Estate agents and politicians among least trusted professions”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5085369/Estate-agents-and-politicians-among-least-trusted-professions.html

“More than half of MPs guilty of over-claiming expenses”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/7161198/More-than-half-of-MPs-guilty-of-over-claiming-expenses.html

“A plague of politicians: There are 30,000 and they cost you £500m every year”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1199388/Taxpayers-pay-500m-year-29-000-politicians.html

That figure of 30,000 compares with an electorate in Britain of 44 million. On the evidence, I seriously doubt that we get good and honest value for money. Especially when I read assessments of the proposed NHS reforms such as this:
Andrew Lansley’s NHS reforms are unworkable, says review chief
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/may/13/andrew-lansley-nhs-reforms-unworkable


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  1. Richard Murphy

    RT @libcon:Coalition headaches continue:73% of Libdem members hate NHS plans http://bit.ly/joZ9zv You bet -people can see train crash coming

  2. sunny hundal

    Hah! Even 73% of Libdem members hate NHS plans. And these are the ones still loyal! http://bit.ly/joZ9zv

  3. Tony Dowling

    RT @RichardJMurphy: RT @libcon:Coalition headaches continue:73% of Libdem members hate NHS plans http://bit.ly/joZ9zv You bet -people ca …

  4. Captain Swing

    RT @sunny_hundal: Hah! Even 73% of Libdem members hate NHS plans. And these are the ones still loyal! http://bit.ly/joZ9zv

  5. Virginia Moffatt

    RT @RichardJMurphy: RT @libcon:Coalition headaches continue:73% of Libdem members hate NHS plans http://bit.ly/joZ9zv You bet -people ca …

  6. Nick H.

    RT @sunny_hundal: Hah! Even 73% of Libdem members hate NHS plans. And these are the ones still loyal! http://bit.ly/joZ9zv

  7. Willetts u-turns on paying for university places, the Lib Dems are still unhappy, and the coalition turns one: round up of political blogs for 7 May – 13 May | British Politics and Policy at LSE

    [...] Lansley is about to lose a SpAD, and the latest poll of Lib Dem party members show that 73% are unhappy with the government’s NHS plans… no wonder Nick Clegg looks so [...]





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