Week of action against Atos begins Monday


10:44 am - May 7th 2011

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Disability activists, claimant groups and anti-cuts campaigners have called a week of action against “poverty pimps” Atos Origin beginning on Monday 9th May with a picnic and party in Triton Square, home of their head office, at 2pm.

Both announced and unannounced protests are set to take place around the UK outside the offices and testing centres operated by Atos Origin.

Atos Origin have just begun a £300 million contract by the Government to carry out ‘work capability assessments’ on all of those claiming Incapacity Benefit.

It is claimed assessments are to test what people can do rather than what they can’t. The real purpose is to strip benefits from as many people as possible.

This testing system has already led to people with terminal illnesses and severe medical conditions being declared fit for work and having benefits cut. GP’s are ignored in favour of decisions made by Atos Origin’s computer.

To date around 40% of appeals against Atos Origin’s decisions have been successful.

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Events across the UK to be helf starting on Monday listed here.

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1. Dan Factor

More power to their elbow! ATOS are awful!

Good!!

It’s about time that the national scandal of the “work capabillity assessment” was more widely exposed.

Alll power too them!!

“The real purpose is to strip benefits from as many people as possible.”

Or… to free as many people as possible from benefit dependency when they are capable of working for a living, depending on how you look at it.

Dirk @ 2

Or… to free as many people as possible from benefit dependency when they are capable of working for a living, depending on how you look at it.

Typical Tory halfwit, too stupid to understand both science and the labour market.

Nobody is going to be freed from anything. It may surprise you to learn but simply redrawing the criteria for assessment does NOT actually alter your prognosis, if only it did and then there would no need for doctors in the first place. Declaring someone ‘fit for work’ will not suddenly mean there is going to be string of employers lining up to take you on. If you have something that put people off employing you five years ago, then that is hardly likely to have changed, is it?

If you had a condition that occasionally inflamed, rendering you unable to work twice a week completely at random, then given we have a surplus of labour, can you think of an employer that is willing to employ such a person, who were reluctant to employ you five years ago?

Jim @ 4 Yes clearly i am a total idiot, thank you for your tolerant benevolence in offering me some free progressive reeducation.

Theres the issue firstly of those who are claiming incapacity incorrectly or fraudulently, which is a small minority, but that alone is reason enough to justify such a programme. For those who have a disability you are essentially saying that its right to just accept they are unfit to work and should be kept out of the labour market. Pretty immoral stuff mate, you should examine your own beliefs before you start your offensive self righteous preaching.

“To date around 40% of appeals against Atos Origin’s decisions have been successful.”

Itd be nice to know what percentage of cases were actually appealed, but if 60% of them were found to have been correct and proper then that suggests a pretty good overall hit rate does it not?

@3 Dirk

Or… to free as many people as possible from benefit dependency when they are capable of working for a living, depending on how you look at it.

Or… declared “fit to work” when they are clearly not. Not able to find any work because no employer will take them on. And then left destitute, depending on overwhelming evidence that this will be the case.

7. Margin4error

Dirk

how does stripping some one of their benefits – which they might well need because their condition makes them unnatractive to the workplace – free them from benefit dependency?

The need doesn’t go away because the benefit goes away.

This project is pretty clear. It doesn’t find out what possible (if limited) options each person has for getting into the work – and then set about helping them develop the required skills to take up those options – while at the same generating jobs in the labour market so these people have jobs to take.

It just reclassifies a bunch of people to cut their benefits and support.

@5

Oh dear oh dear [slaps forehead]

Let’s explain this in simple terms shall we. So that hopefully even dimwitted tories can understand…

If a potential employer has a choice between several healthy applicants for a job, and one who has a disabillity which means they may be unreliable and unavailable for work for certain periods. Which do you suppose they will be almost certain to choose…

Making people with disabillities “available to the jopb market” does not mean there will be anyone willing to give them a job…Hence they will in all probabillity end up unemployed and destitute..

Do you understand now? Or do we have to draw big colourful pictures to illustrate the point?

Jesus theres some pretty ridiculous arguments going on here.
People who cannot work, and as far as i know the Atos assesments ARE done by actual real doctors, will keep their incapacity benefit.
Those who are deemed fit to work will be taken off incapacity benefit and then go on to unemployment benefit with an aim to getting them back into the work place, they wont be destitute, they wont starve to death.
Employers CANT discriminate against people on the grounds of disability, its illegal, surely your aware of this fact? Having worked alongside people with various disabilities, and seen people in other places of employment who are disabled, it is obvious to me that disabled people can get employment, and that employers are not half as evil as you lot are making out. Listen to yourselves for god sake!

Dirk, you seem to believe that the “work capabillity assesment” is fair. It isn’t. It has been widely condemned by disabillity charities, MPs and the Citizens Advice Bureau amongst others as being absurdly narrow in it’s criteria of disabillity. And for wrongly finding people “fit for work” when they are clearly not.

This is why people are objecting to it.

Try reading this report by the Citizens Advice Bureau. http://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/not_working

@Dirk:

As a disabled person myself, I know that ATOS often does not use actual doctors on the test. The use, what they call “healthcare professionals”, often nurses who have very little knowledge of disability and the nuances that come with it. Not a doctor, not a specialist or neurologist, a “healthcare professional”.

Here’s my story: I have a very painful, incurable neurological condition. I need morphine, sumatriptan injections and an O2 tank to get by. I am often screaming in pain on the worst days. On good days I can sit at a computer and read or watch tv. That’s about it.

I was found “fit for work” by ATOS last year. They falsified several of my statements in the interview and put down things that I “said” though actually did not say. I appealed and eventually won. Once it was found that ATOS falsified my forms, nothing happened to them. And the DWP will not pursue my complaint.

And what if the right to appeal had been taken away as they want to do? Who will hire someone like me, doped up on morphine and needing an O2 tank? I can’t even take my O2 on public transport as it is a hazard, and would be a hazard in most workplaces as well.

The test is not fit for purpose and is failing sick and disabled people. But we don’t matter; we are society’s weakest and the UK in 2011 doesn’t really like “weak” people anymore.

Employers CANT discriminate against people on the grounds of disability, its illegal, surely your aware of this fact?

If you honestly believe that employers simply wouldn’t, and in fact don’t already, break the law when it comes to hiring staff, I have a bridge to sell you.
How do you go about proving it in a court of law?
Why would you even bother going through the rigmarole of a court case against an employer who clearly doesn’t want to employ you?
Simple fact is Dirk is that disability anti-discrimination laws only count in practice for staff who are already employed.

So, @Dirk:

If you were an employer, would you hire someone like me who would never know if I could work on the day until I wake up? Would you allow me to call in sick as often as I needed, when I needed? Let me go home when needed or provide a bed for me at work? Would you spend thousands adapting your workplace to accommodate my O2 tank (for fire safety reasons)? Would you be happy to hire someone who has trouble staying awake due to being on high doses of morphine? Would you be happy to have a person screaming in pain at your place of work?

Every illness and disability is different, highly nuanced and complicated. Many of us have several requirements which would need to be met in order to work. Which company, in times like these, will spend money adapting the workplace for disabled people like me when they can hire an able-bodied person who is reliable?

I’d be glad to work, if all those requirements were to be met. I tried to find work a year after I came down with this illness but I gave up after trying for 2 years. Even in the good economic times nobody in the public or private sector would hire me.

So what hope for disabled and sick people in bad economic times when the government leads the public to believe all disabled people are “scroungers”?

14. Tom (iow)

If you’re on ESA or IB you are free to take a job at any time, if you can, and one is available.

No one needs to have a finding of ‘fit for work’ from the DWP first. That finding is *only* about taking away someone’s income.

15. Tom (iow)

And of course (it should be needless to say) no-one is actually made fit to work by the DWP redrawing the criteria. Only the market can decide this.

16. Charlieman

I’m a liberal and I want small government. As a liberal, I also seek equality and accountability. And contracting out assessment of disability benefit qualification is wrong.

My judgement is not based on whether contracting out leads to civil servants losing their jobs or whether claimants lose out. It’s about the fundamentals of responsibility. Decisions about the welfare of citizens are being made. It is immoral to contract out this process. The state pays disability allowances and the state should be making eligibility decisions.

@ Dirk
I haven’t studied ATOS Origin but the biggest problem with the scheme launched by the previous government was that the “healthcare professionals” employed usually had no specialist knowledge of the condition suffered by the individual interviewed. For instance an individual with MS interviewed during a period of remission was deemed fit for manual work.
The scheme, as with so many of New Labour’s schemes, was designed by a spin-doctor to counter the Daily Mail’s complaints about scroungers (yeah, there were a few – the Daily Mail found at least six among the 1.5m on disability benefit). It is claimed as a success because the number claiming incapacity benefit has fallen: quite a lot just gave up because they didn’t understand how the scheme worked, some gave up because their disability has lessened since they were classified as disabled (e.g. although I have never claimed incapacity benefit my hamstring hurts much less now than when I tore it five years ago) but they had no previous incentive to move off the disability register as there were no jobs available and incapacity allowance was higher than JSA.
It would only BE a success if a thorough examination was carried out by a medical professional who understood the nature of the interviewee’s condition.
Minor point – employers *can* discriminate when the condition prevents the potential employee doing the job (except in the case of pregnancy or other female conditions): you are not required to employ someone in a wheelchair as a steeple-jack.

@Tom:

Yes, I know I am free to work at any time. But if “the market” is to decide, then no company will ever hire someone as sick as me, as it is not in their financial interests. I tried for two years straight and had over 25 interviews. Nobody would even *consider* adapting the workplace and making the allowances I need.

It’s always the same: “We simply cannot afford to take the risk of hiring someone whose medical condition makes them unreliable, and we cannot afford to adapt our workplace to your needs”.

So if the DWP/ATOS are now telling most of us we are “fit for work”, against our doctors and specialists’ professional advice, yet most companies would take an able-bodied person over a disabled one 99% of the time, I ask again:

What hope for sick/disabled people in this current climate?

Unfortunately stories like Douglas’s above are far from being rare. In fact they seem to be pretty much the norm where ATOS is concerned.

See this; http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/feb/23/government-reform-disability-benefits

What this government and ATOS are doing to the disabled is evil. And that is not a word I use loosely. Unfortunately, it seems to fit in with their agenda of bashing the most vunerable people in society.

20. Tom (iow)

@18 I agree Douglas. I was addressing the myth that stopping your benefits somehow ‘fress’ you from worklessness.

21. Tom (iow)

*frees

22. Chaise Guevara

@ 9 Dirk

“People who cannot work, and as far as i know the Atos assesments ARE done by actual real doctors, will keep their incapacity benefit.
Those who are deemed fit to work will be taken off incapacity benefit and then go on to unemployment benefit with an aim to getting them back into the work place, they wont be destitute, they wont starve to death.”

You’re just repeating the party line. The problem is that the tests have been redesigned to err on the side of cutting people off. If this measure was going to catch out slackers without harming any genuinely needy people, nobody would have a problem with it.

“Employers CANT discriminate against people on the grounds of disability, its illegal, surely your aware of this fact? ”

Yes they can. Disability hiring laws only affect large firms in practice – you need the company to have a big enough workforce that their lack of disabled staff is statistically significant.

“Having worked alongside people with various disabilities, and seen people in other places of employment who are disabled, it is obvious to me that disabled people can get employment, and that employers are not half as evil as you lot are making out.”

Obviously your personal experiences do not reflect on the overall situation nationwide. In any case: employers will naturally select the most employable disabled people to meet quotas. So if you have a disability that means that you can theoretically work but you will be expected to do most jobs badly, you’re screwed. They’re not evil, they just want the best person for the job.

“Listen to yourselves for god sake!”

You should follow your own advice. Your patronising attitude towards other posters here does you little credit when your arguments make it clear that you know very little about the topic at hand.

23. Tom (iow)

I think, as in every other thread on the topic, the confusion is between: a) being actually capable of getting a job and working, b) and being ‘fit for work’ under the 15 point criteria.

The two bear NO relation to each other. There is no guarantee that someone ‘fit for work’ in the second sense can do any work or get any job. I actually had a client who was found ‘fit for work’ by ATOS and was also refused JSA as the she was not eligible because she was not considered actually fit for work in the first sense.

@20 Tom:

Sorry, I got a bit confused and thought you were saying something else; glad we actually agree.

To elaborate on points made by other posters, Dirk appears to be of the impression that someone who claims Incapacity Benefit or ESA is not permitted to seek work. I think this is understandable even if it is incorrect: I myself did not claim Incapacity Benefit because I was misled into believing that it was a simple choice between going on Jobseekers Allowance and seeking work or going on IB if I’m not. I now know this is completely false and IB even allows permitted work of up to 16 hours a week or up to the sum of around 90 pounds.

The Work Capability Assessment does not address or correct the problem caused by this popular myth; it in fact appears to assume it as true and works to correct an entirely different and non-existent problem: that people are ‘trapped’ on benefits.

Receiving a statutory benefit so I can eat and live does nothing of the sort. Starvation and death is not liberation.

What is seldom if ever mentioned is the underlying ‘philosophy’ behind all of this.

We have lived through a long period (starting as far back as the mid/late-70s) where people have come to be defined (and their value measured) almost solely in terms of their economic utility. Unless you are ‘productive’ (which is invariably defined in sheer profit-and-loss, ‘bottom line’ terms), then you are considered nothing more than a drag anchor on the ‘dynamic’, ‘thrusting’, ‘go-getting’ ‘wealth creators’ whom we have been encouraged to worship during this same period, be they the obvious thugs like Murdoch and Goodwin or the likes of Dyson and Branson at the ‘fluffy’ end of the scale.

So, if you are not ‘productive’ in those terms – for whatever reasons – you are deemed to be someone whose basic human dignity, whose right to be able to live to a civilised and decent standard, hell almost whose very right to exist can constantly be called into question. So if you’re disabled in some way, you are considered worthy only of being regularly humiliated; if you’re unemployed or otherwise not ‘productive’ by the official definition, you are fit only to be decried as ‘scroungers’ by pols and press and subjected to the tender mercies of the arbitrary malice of the DWP and JobCentre Plus.

Indeed, in much the same way as convicted people are, these groups of the ‘non-productive’ are very easy to categorise as ‘the Other’, people who are not ‘of us’. This makes it far easier to demonise them and to be able to get away with treating them as sub-human in some way without a huge outcry.

We are – by any set of criteria – a very wealthy society. I do not particularly object to a tiny proportion of my taxes being used to keep the disabled, the unemployed, even the ‘workshy chavs’ from starving; certainly nowhere near as much as I object to my money being used to mollycoddle individuals and corporations who/which already have more wealth than they could possibly ever use, and whom we are – seemingly – obliged to revere as members of a sort of Pantheon of entrepreneurial virtue.

In short, we need to establish a system where the economy is subservient to the needs and aspirations of people, rather than the other way around as has been the case for most of my lifetime.

Dirk @

Hold on, if you are talking about ‘fraud’ then fair enough, let us tackle fraud. How much does actual ‘fraud’ cost the system? Real ‘fraud’ that is, not just cases described as fraud for the sake padding out the numbers. How much are these ‘re-assessments’ costing?

If we are only talking about fraud, then clearly given that less than 1% of cases are fraudulent; the vast majority of these reassessments are completely unnecessary.

However, this is not about reassessing people, this is about ‘reclassifying people. The system is designed wit the sole intention to make that ‘reclassification’ as easy as possible. Who has drawn up the criteria? On what basis? Most importantly, does the criteria they use bear any reationship to anything that the free market would be likely to use as a bench mark?

For those who have a disability you are essentially saying that its right to just accept they are unfit to work and should be kept out of the labour market.

Yeah, about that, it is the labour market that does the excluding, not me. I am not saying ‘we’ should exclude these people, the labour market has spoken in the vast majority of cases.

but if 60% of them were found to have been correct and proper then that suggests a pretty good overall hit rate does it not?

Typical Tory ‘logic’. YOU set up a system designed to ‘pass’ enough people fit to work and YOU administer that system and you cunts are too stupid to even run the system well enough that even your own people find you have defrauded the weakest members in society.

Yawn. fuckin tory half wits. Yawn. Does liberal mean self righteous, arrogant arsehole these days?

No, Dave. It just means left-leaning (or Liberal, if you like) people tend to care more about the well-being of their fellow human beings (especially the weakest) rather than the size of their bank balance or how much “stuff” they can afford.

It’s called “humanity”. Tories (and the LibDems these days) could use some, I think..

@28

Yawn. fuckin tory half wits. Yawn. Does liberal mean self righteous, arrogant arsehole these days?

No, it means that “liberal” or left wing object to the most vunerable people in society being thrown to the wolves. And object to ignorant, bigoted tory sociopaths who wish to do just that.

Grim reading here http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201012/cmselect/cmworpen/718/71802.htm What it boils down to is that the government hasn’t got a clue what its doing or what the outcome will be.

And it gets worse http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/may/08/jobcentre-staff-guidelines-suicide-threats I simply cannot believe what this country has come to

I hope all the Tories that support tormenting the sick get sick themselves.

Soon.

@32

Suddenly Sally’s jibes against the tories being “brownshirts” doesn’t look so far fetched.

Sick.

Atos and the DWP are ruining thousands of lives on a daily basis, people committing suicide and passing away whilst waiting for their appeal to come up, people being made homeless because their benefits are cut, Atos and the DWP and the government need to take a very hard look before they continue with the injustice that’s involved in the assessment process…

http://atosvictimsgroup.wordpress.com/

Atos Victims Group

ATOS victims group @ 36

Do not blame the Tories for all of this, they simply know no better. You may as well blame a puppy for shitting on a carpet or a rabbit for shagging its sister. Animals know nothing about morals.

The real blame lies with Labour refusal to take up the cases of the weak and the media for the blind eye turned to these stories. The BBC are quite happy to pander to the Tory agenda regarding ‘scroungers’, because they fear the damage the vermin will do to them, but surely their is STILL one person with a backbone among them?

I don’t just blame the torries I blame New Labour also for introducing companies like Atos and Unum, Unum are known in the USA as disability denial factories and have been fined hundreds of millions but Labour and the conservatives still use this company…..

Below is a message I’ve sent to my local MP.

I have become aware this week of information connected to my Incapacity Benefit medical assessment that raises serious concerns regarding the methodology used.

In the contract between ATOS Healthcare and the DWP it clearly states a requirement for a specialist medical for musculo-skeletal disorders, my assessment did not seek opinion from my specialist or any other musculo-skeletal specialist. Because of their failure I have been left on income support at reduced rate, this has left me in extreme fuel poverty as over 30% of my income goes on paying for energy.

ATOS healthcare are paid £100 million a year to assess IB and other benefit claimants, as 70% of appeals that have representation win their appeals it’s obvious that the system is flawed. This must add to the costs incurred by the taxpayer as appeals usually have three people considering the appeal together with a secretary who takes notes and other people employed in the building where the appeal takes place, one recent report said appeals this year had cost the taxpayer £30 million on top of the cost of the flawed medicals.

Can you tell me why ATOS healthcare are exempt from responsibility for their professional opinion, why has no doctor from ATOS ever been investigated by the General Medical Council? ATOS Healthcare breach their contract with the DWP at will as there is no clinical supervision, no monitoring, no one to prevent what is happening and no one to care. The GMC insist that all doctors have a duty of care for anyone they examine, yet ATOS healthcare professionals do not have a duty of care.

Why do the people carrying out the assessment have no access to the patients detailed medical history at the interview? ATOS Healthcare seems to be totally unaccountable for all medical examinations, all the usual patient safety networks in place for NHS and private healthcare do not apply. According to the GMC and the Healthcare commission ATOS Healthcare as a company have total immunity from all medical regulation.

There is well documented evidence that company doctors have expressed concern that patient health/fitness is assessed using a computer tick questionnaire which takes up almost all of the 25 minute allotted time with a customer leaving little if any time for a proper clinical examination. This might explain why 50% of unrepresented appeals and 70% of represented appeals are successful, the flawed test results in additional costs for the taxpayer.

The Government have ignored successive annual government reports by HH Judge Robert Martin who as President of the Appeals Tribunals has identified serious concerns with the medical reports from ATOS Healthcare, Judge Martin reported concern at overwhelming evidence that DWP Decision Makers refuse to believe the claimants. Tribunal Chairs express constant concerns that medical reports from ATOS Healthcare do not coincide with reality.

ATOS Healthcare is running disability denial factories in the UK, they are funded by the DWP at considerable cost to the taxpayer, chronically sick and disabled patients have no protection or safeguards. There are contless numbers of distressing stories available of genuine patients being traumatised following a vist to these government funded assessment centres where little medical examination takes place apart from a seriously flawed tick test.

The permitted activities of this private contractor are dangerous and without medical supervision, this leaves the chronically sick and disabled people of this nation in jeopardy. It’s not enough that these victims endure such shocking treatment by ATOS Healthcare but they are also placed under intolerable additional pressure with the threat of their financial support being removed.

The manager of the DWP CMMS department has confirmed in writing to a dying man that the DWP has never audited or monitored the contract between the DWP and ATOS Healthcare, this is contrary to the claims of successive ministers. Mr B Hilary Brierley confirmed that “the Department has not exercised its contractual right to access for purposes for auditing ATOS Healthcares compliance with it’s contractual obligations”.

The only monitoring undertaken by the DWP and ATOS Healthcare is to check the paperwork and targets, there has been no clinical evaluation of the medical reports or the individuals preparing them.

An Independent Review of the Work Capability Assessment, headed by Professor Malcolm Harrington, was published on 23rd November 2010. The Professor confirmed unacceptable and limited activity by the Decision Makers, who fail to consider all presented medical evidence, and confirm anything presented by an ATOS Healthcare assessment. This is in breach of the contract as exposed in this full research report, originally completed in June 2010.

It’s not just Incapacity Benefit claimants that it affects, the really shocking thing is the refusal to investigate. If anything the way it’s run is not dissimilar to the inquisition with presumption of guilt, gossip acceptable, no right to a lawyer (in ATOS’s case medical evidence), like the inquisitors ATOS have been granted enormous powers and immunity to punish the chronically sick & disabled.

Re ATOS Origin and Work Capability ” Assessments ” it’s exactly same scam that UNUM Provident operated in the States re Unemployment Protection Insurance , UNUM’s problem was that it wasn’t old Charlie or Fred that got lung disease or lost his hand in a machine anymore . They’d people claiming for the likes of ME which was affecting their profitability . They even ran a campaign to deal with it .

They tried a different tact , first of all they went on surreptitious assumptions that people were over stating and exaggerating their health problems , the tactics were too deliberately ” low ball ” claims , the disability denial factories if you will .

People would see winos and beggars on the streets , it would frighten people witless , they’d take out policies then when they became unemployed they’d be knocked back …trebles all round ! .

In the Insurance Industry it is assumed there is a 20 % fraud rate and it’s a case of we’ll trip you up …come hell or high water . The problem was the claimants usually had medical evidence to back up their claims

The difference over the Pond is that they’ve a written constitution . A class action was taken out and UNUM Provident were deemed to be a criminal operator . Google UNUM Bad Faith for details . Here Governments just legislate with badly drafted laws and regulations for their agencies that are full of holes + contradictions , open to interpretation and exploitation by unscrupulous private contractors .

It’s been argued that ATOS fear the same scenario , that’s why they’ve bullied Carer Watch , After ATOS & ATOS Register of Shame . Black Triangle have had to host from Iceland as ATOS would love to get these sites taken down . There’s a lot of money involved in this poverty pimp business and it will get rough .

However there is very organic links between ATOS Origin & UNUM , the LIMA mechanistic and crude ” computer says no ” software was developed by UNUM , the UNUM Provident MDA or DMA ” assessment ” is ” remarkably similar ” to the Personal Capability Assessment and it’s successor the WCA Work Capability Assessment . They extensively lobbied to get government policy in their own interests . Corrupt business men and equally corrupt politicians ? the politicians wanting ” back of a fag packet ” ” solutions ” to complex and involved problems that can be fed to a very dumbed down media and a even more dumber readership and viewer …just look at the Tory saloon bar bore Troll that’s commented on this thread that has read The Daily Mail and that Murdoch comic , The Sun too often .

What these companies are good at is marketing and offering solutions . The initial subject at conference hosted by UNUM was entitled ” Malingering , Illness and Deception ” , that’s the jist of these ATOS sham medicals , we’ll trip you up by fair or most usually foul means .

Then the DWP ” Decision Makers hand held by ATOS ” Health Care ” Professionals ” ” ” are encouraged to ” read between the lines ” and ” get to the truth ” …unfortunately 70 % of claim appeals with advocacy are successful , they ‘ve lost 80 % of cases in trial areas and some CAB advocates win 90 % purely based on evidence and case law .

Any normal private firm that had failures like that would soon be bankrupt …however the State takes the risk , the appeals bill is now up to £80 million , it’s ” coincidentally ” gone up from £1.9 and then £3.2 m under the last government .

I’ve no problem with the real red and tooth in claw innovators and risk taking entrepreneurs ….it’s this spivy pretend capitalism that is objectionable . Pure idiotic ideology .

You have to remember that the PCA was amended to the WCA as ATOS were que surprise getting a bad reputation and the DWP were getting too many appeals …laughable that it may sound . The aim was to reduce the support group by 70 % and the Work Related Activity Group by 30 % …purely about saving money simple as …there’s people that have ” failed ” WCA’s by the goalposts being drawn in that are not allowed to claim Job Seekers Allowance as they are too ill .

The Capability part has little to do with the real world of work in any case . Another con trick .

The other con trick played by UNUM is the re-categorising illnesses & conditions as behavioural and lifestyle choices , outdated 90’s pseudo science and sociology ….in short the ” all in the mind one ” …that’s why there’s so many horror stories about ATOS and rape victims being ” examined ” and a clearly arthritic man on sticks being told …it was ” all in the mind ” . The gloss put on things by the likes of Goebbels Grayling is that they’re saving lives …but there has been 31 indirect deaths resulting from ATOS ” medicals ” .

The other con trick is that ATOS work on the basis that you’ve ” a good doctor ” that is too scared of complaints to the General Medical Council , ambulance chasing solicitor firms hence the laughable need for independence …this was the contention made by Lord David Freud , a ” colourful ” ex City character that allegedly had a bad reputation for pushing share issues for firms that ” coincidentally ” went bust .

ATOS also have a bad reputation in Occupational Health , ironically ATOS have got DWP & Royal Mail staff through the door on ill health retirement , and you really have to be a bad case to get that …they’re hardly likely to pay out when they can get rid of staff cheaply through discipline and attendance policies ? …then as soon as these surplus to requirements staff have applied for benefits they’ve knocked back by ATOS as malingerers …trebles all round again .

UNUM are now plugging Employment Protection Insurance …all those DWP / ATOS horror stories and hysterical ” news coverage ” in the likes of the Express & Mail means more policies being taken out …trebles all round again

40. Ian M Davies

Despite two conditions that will not get better the DWP and it’s advisers at ATOS Healthcare have tried time and again to get me off Incapacity Benefits, the usual trick is to misinterpret what they are told at the medical assessment. This usually leads to my benefit being stopped and me appealing the decision which leaves me on less than the Government says a person needs to live off for about 8-12 months, at the appeal I explain the effects on my health and how I have tried to work and it results in the decision being reversed.

All trying to force me off does is cost more money as a recent estimate stated “The DWP ” Decision Makers hand held by ATOS ” Health Care ” Professionals ” ” ” are encouraged to ” read between the lines ” and ” get to the truth ” …unfortunately 70 % of claim appeals with advocacy are successful , they ‘ve lost 80 % of cases in trial areas and some CAB advocates win 90 % purely based on evidence and case law .Any normal private firm that had failures like that would soon be bankrupt …however the State takes the risk , the appeals bill is now up to £80 million , it’s ” coincidentally ” gone up from £1.9 and then £3.2 m under the last government .”

The sad truth is I want to work and have used my illness to help others, as well as doing voluntary work (so I can judge how much I can cope with) I have created ideas that have created work for over a dozen UK businesses. There have been offers of employment but just a few hours a week soon triggered my condition and I had to end the work trial early, there are employers interested in the way I look at problems but they are also aware of the effects on my health.

Against my advisers opinion I told my appeal panel that I had tried to work with the DWP’s knowledge and permission and that they knew how quickly it affected my condition, I also told them how one of my inventions has helped thousands of elderly and disabled people in the UK. I also told them how I had kept the Jobcentre informed and proven that I hadn’t profited from the product but used it to show that I have something to offer potential employers, the Jobcentre and the DWP were aware that I wanted to work but they were also aware that my health was soon adversely affected by any attempt.

The truth is had I been treated properly and given specialist attention sooner I could have either found work or created work I could manage, I believe it was trying to save money that ensured that my condition won’t get better. There is a lesson here for the NHS in that saving money on treating patients may cost less in the short term but it could cost considerably more in the long run.


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