Watch: Warsi’s No2AV car-crash on Sky


5:15 pm - April 21st 2011

by Sunny Hundal    


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Blimey!

For once the media is actually doing its job of questioning spurious claims made by the government.

This was recorded from earlier today on Sky News and features Adam Boulton questioning Baroness Sayeeda Warsi.

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Ouch!

So basically Sayeeda’s arguing that if they have a boxing match in Australia, and there are four or five boxers in the ring at the same time, everybody will be forced to watch it. Or something.

I’m almost as confused as she is.

Oh dear. This is what happens when you mislead people

Blimey, indeed!

Andrew Boulton done good! Although, I still have an overwhelming urge to punch him in the mouth.

As for Warsi: desperate and clueless.

She really needs to learn more words other than ‘fundamental’ … To be fair, I think both sides of the argument have done themselves a disservice. YestoAV responded to the NotoAV camp with equally hysterical and ridiclous arguments. “Vote yes because Nick Griffin will vote no” …. So I’m a fascist if I vote no?

The adverts are just so beyond anything I would say is acceptable – from both sides! – and it’s insulting to the British public.

I hate people, granted, but I give most people the benefit of the doubt that they have more intelligence than a mosquito. This kind of nonsense ‘you’re a baby-killer if you vote yes’ ‘you’re a fascist if you vote no’ ‘voting yes is for losers’ deftly demonstrates exactly HOW out of touch politicians and those involved with political lobbying are. We need cold, hard facts, not playground bully tactics and wildly speculative opinions like “losers will win” … Completely bloody ridiculous statement because if a loser wins then surely by definition they ARE the winner anyway – the voting system merely changes how the winner is decided and justified.

Where’s all this “people fought & died in wars for this voting system” bullshit come from? I’m pretty sure those fighting the Nazis back in the second world war were hardly shouting “FOR FIRST PAST THE POST, WAAAGH!!”

I’m sure the tory right wing are delighted that this woman represents them.

Cylux/6: And, of course, the Australians were also fighting with the Allies in World War II, so even if that was logic did make sense, AV would also have been a system defended against the Axis.

9. Alistair Bull

It’s like watching Mcllroy’s collapse at the Masters this – painful

Clearly she hasn’t read by explanation of how AV works:

http://imgur.com/pP6lA

Correction, that link should be:

http://imgur.com/r7kzz

the idea of a boxer who loses is pronounced the Winner, is diffenrent oyu could be on the gound ,yet you dcould still win on points, Barsi’s also hasn’t criticise the 51 election where tories got less votes than Laobur yet still won

For the first time since 92 ,the tories seem likely to win an election and this one is through telling lies

Dear God. What is the world coming to when a dimwit like that speaks for a government. Is Cameron’s only criteria for ennoblement or position that someone has to be even dumber than he is? I am sick to death of tortured analogies about boxers and bars of chocolate, none of them apply because its an electoral process not a boxing match or a trip to the shops. I wish it was a boxing match that decided elections, I’d love to see the candidates pummel the crap out of each other until all are unconcious except the one standing who’s probably left with brain damage (an ideal qualification for this government). Perhaps not though, imagine Eric Pickles stripped to waist. Bet that’s put you off your hot-cross buns.

And how bad are things when Sky News has a good interview. This week saw Radio 4’s flagship Today programme descend to the floor with an interview with Cameron that was so soft it was like a mug of tepid Horlicks and John Humphry’s performance with strategically shaved giant rat in a suit Chris Grayling was deplorable. I’m surprised Humphry’s voice was audible as it seemed like he had Grayling’s cock in his mouth

15. David Hodd

“Every Vote has Equal Value”

I have voted in 6 general elections, in Sunderland South, Maidstone, Brighton Pavilion, Devizes, Dorset South.

At only 2 of these elections was there ever a chance to make any difference, whatever my political persuasion (I was shocked to find that most of Kennet District council’s Tory councillors are elected unopposed).

For Dorset South and Brighton Pavilion, to make this difference, I had to vote for my second or third choice.

I know people who dutifully vote every election in safe seats, and their vote has never made a difference.

How dare Warsi claim that this charade is what people fought wars for.

16. Churchill's big cigar

She’s always been rubbish.
When on “Question Time” she dodged the accusation she was also as homophobic as he was (by Nick Griffin no less) due to her delusional Islamic based remarks of the past, I knew she was bad news.

Rubbish…she’s a token Muslim MP and that’s why she has a job.

@16 She’s a Baroness not an MP, which some might consider far worse to be talking about the sanctity of elections.

18. Dick the Prick

@16 – she ain’t an MP but she certainly is a complete chump. I can understand the reasoning of wheeling her out as she’s the Tory Chair but ffs, a little bit of briefing and revision wouldn’t go astray. Ho hum…Dewsbury’s a very odd place, I sort of worked there for 6 years and oftentimes just sat there scratching my head thinking ‘did that really just happen?’ so being a politician there would stretch most rational individuals into contorted exclusion.

19. ex-Labour voter

Warsi has never been elected to anything.

Baroness Warsi is such a poor advocate for government policy. This is not the first time she’s been torched. On any issue. To be fair though, I do not see how an elected candidate that captures 51% of the vote on the back of lots of second preferences is any more legitimate than a candidate who wins 33% and is elected to Westminster.

Wow, and Bolton is a tory!

If only first votes counted, David Davis would be leader of the Tory party and Sayeeda Warsi wouldn’t be in the cabinet. If the Tories genuinely believe first preference is the only vote that should count, maybe they should change their own leadership election system. At the moment they are being massive hypocrites.

23. Warsi rides again

I pissed myself when she said, “well I don’t think this is about cartoons” – no shit, you mental midget.

But it’s a fundamental right that we all have one vote; except when some landowners had a vote in each of the areas where they owned land. But apart from that every vote is equal; except where one area has a larger electorate than another yet each only elect one MP.

Apart from all that it’s fundamental!


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    quality slow-mo train wreck for Warsi: http://bit.ly/e3XViM

  16. Matthew 'TK' Taylor

    RT @sophwarnes: http://bit.ly/fk4feX Ha ha #NotoAVcampaignerscansuckmyleftone

  17. Pete Birkinshaw

    Baroness Warsi does not appear to be someone who understands maths, logic, etc: http://t.co/zrxqb2U

  18. Pete Birkinshaw

    Baroness Warsi does not appear to be someone who understands maths, logic, etc: http://t.co/zrxqb2U

  19. Lee Hyde

    One for @moronwatch me thinks » @SkyNewsBoulton destroys the unelected and feeble minded @SayeedaWarsi re. #AV (http://is.gd/1Z3AuY)

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  21. Matt Sellwood

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