Today’s employment figures aren’t good, despite what Grayling says


4:28 pm - January 19th 2011

by Richard Exell    


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Today’s labour market figures are pretty depressing – employment down, unemployment up.

But at first sight, one statistic looks encouraging: there were 480,000 vacancies in the three months to December. This is an increase of 18,000 from the three months to September and is fourteen thousand higher than a year earlier.

Government minister Chris Grayling said today:

These figures serve to underline the scale of the challenge we face. We inherited the largest budget deficit in peacetime history and high levels of worklessness, which we are determined to bring down by rebalancing the economy and supporting private sector jobs growth – we are already seeing some improvement in the number of vacancies in the economy.

Unfortunately, this increase is entirely due to the census, which began recruiting temporary collectors and enumerators in October.

As the ONS notes point out:

Excluding the Census vacancies, there were 456,000 job vacancies in the three months to December 2010, down 6,000 from the three months to September 2010.

If we compare vacancies and unemployment, there were 5.3 unemployed people per job vacancy in September – November (this comparison is for a month earlier to match with the available unemployment figures). This is a rise of 0.1 from the three months to August.

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Unemployment is not a prority for tories. Never has been.

Price well worth paying and all that.

The labour market figures were a real mixed bag. A couple of positives but on the whole quite worrying. The striking thing for me is the continuing level of youth unemployment (20.3 per cent of 16-24-year-olds) The strange thing is unemployment is lower than we would expect for every other age group considering output. This phenomenon of high youth unemployment is occurring all over Europe and North America except in those places that are actively doing something about it. We are by no means the worst but 20 per cent is worrying high. Unless something is done about it much of the West has the makings of a lost generation of unemployable skill-less youth. Moreover, part-time employment continues to rise at the expense of full-time employment suggesting there is significant underemployment in the economy. Therefore, even if growth accelerates the level of unemployment may disappoint as the part-time workers switch to full-time. This would close the underemployment gap but not impact unemployment.

And how many are real, full-time jobs and how many part time or zero hour? Its impossible to trust unemployment figures based on claimant counts as the objective of job centres is no longer to help the unemployed find work or training but to find the merest infraction of the rules that would allow them to terminate claims

So what the figures prove is that the state can improve the unemployment situation by creating jobs – census takers for instance.

Youth unemployment will get worse now the brownshirts have priced most people out of university.

Have you notice all these tories living off the teat of govt? Shorter call me Dave “I’ve got mine fuck you!”

There is no doubt the figures are worrying and what is even more scary is that while the economy is growing – it is not reflecting in job numbers – a jobless recovery is a serious concern.

However, I don’t think anyone should paint this as a Tory strategy – because that makes the left look like fools and that is why wider public shun reading anything on political sites.

Sally – youth unemployment has been rising under Labour – and that has been a major problem. the problem of NEETS have been around for at least a decade now – and foolhardy comments make you look stupid and uninformed and as you are a regular it reflects on this site – so may be some restraint may be a good option.

We need to persuade the wider public not pat each other on the back. May be reading the speech delivered by Douglas Alexander right before Christmas at ippr would be a good starting point for many.

So what will the Tories do now that a few early chickens are coming home to roost?
Take credit fore the increase in job vacancies and blame the unemployment figures on Gordon Brown? That would, after all, be a fair and consistent distribution of blame and responsibility – and we like to be fair and consistent don’t we?. So heart-warming to know that Eton Dave is disappointed over the young unemployed’s record figures. Onwards and upwards Dave – I fear you are going to have to face a few more disappointments yet. I suppose you will regard the phrase ‘we told you so’ as a little premature. All remaining hopes on the private sector then eh? Just keep your hands off the bankers.

“the problem of NEETS have been around for at least a decade now ”

That should be plural – decades. Ever since going down the mines or entering a factory wasn’t an option.

Yeah, perhaps one of the reasons that unemployment (or under employment) isn’t comming down may be down to:

1) Providing a ‘free at the point of delivery’ labour force to some of Europe’s biggest companies?
2) Driving people with long term health barriers onto an already swamped labour market?

Yesterday, I met a woman whose 40 year old bi-polar son was put onto the dole and expected to get a job, despite never been able to work in his entire adult life (this guy is no Stephen Fry, so forget it). He has next to no social skills and a reading age of about twelve as he has never been able to complete education thanks to his behaviour at school. I cannot think of a single person who would put him in charge of a goldfish, far less anything where he would need to show anything like automony at all. However, given that he is ‘fit’ and able bodied, he is deemed ‘able to work’.

I bet that David Cameron and George Osborne are jumping around with joy in Downing Street with this news because they can revel in the thought of all the misery that the unemployed will suffer if they cannot find work within a year. Extreme Poverty for millions is now becoming reality. Thousands upon Thousands are also about to become homeless and the sick and disabled will probably be joining them in the streets.

11. Just Visiting

Shamit

well done.

You’ve told Sally what many of us have thought for so long about her damaging effect on the credibility of LC – but you’ve said it so politely and succinctly.

> foolhardy comments make you look stupid and uninformed and as you are a regular it reflects on this site – so may be some restraint may be a good option.

12. Just Visiting

Mr Tomne

IMHO you too are giving LC a bad name, by characterising your political opponents in such a way.

> I bet that David Cameron and George Osborne are jumping around with joy in Downing Street with this news because they can revel in the thought of all the misery

By all means criticise those you disagree with, but stick to the facts of what they do and say, ey?

11 12

Oh look, a concerned troll pretending he cares about this site.

This site has credibility because it takes no notice of tory trolls. So your concern is not required..

@12 To Just Visiting

My apologies if I have offended you or the Liberal Conspiracy Website in any way, shape or form as this was not my intention.

I feel strongly about what this coalition is doing to the young, sick and disabled,vulnerable, students, EMA and many other issues whilst many Tories on this coalition have been shown to cleverly avoid paying their fair share of taxes that would have benefited the United Kingdom. (George Osborne included)

My sarcasm comes from not having any control over what these people do to the less fortunate in society and because the likes of David Cameron and George Osborne have inherited their wealth and do not know what a hard days work is like. Further to this they do not know (out of touch) what life is like for the ordinary person but I suspect if they did know, they would not care.

Lastly David Cameron famously said he would stop and would not indulge in Punch and Judy Politic’s but appears to be more than guilty of doing that during every prime-minister question time. What a good example he is showing to the rest of the country.

Once again I apologize if I have inadvertently offended anyone because I do not recognise this coalition as it is deceitful, ruthless and uncaring to the less fortunate.

15. DisgustedOfTunbridgeWells

@3

[quote]And how many are real, full-time jobs and how many part time or zero hour? [/quote]

Quite, in my (what would be termed) ‘professional’ field I see recruitment agencies advertising bullshit jobs that don’t exist all day long. The OP’s points aside; ‘advertised jobs’ isn’t a statistic that reflects any sort of reality.

In addition, the notion of a ‘job’ is relative; doctor, baker, truck driver, these are jobs. In professional fields you see multiple jobs magically becoming one role which oddly enough pays a lot less than it’s required skill set would indicate.

@6

[quote]There is no doubt the figures are worrying and what is even more scary is that while the economy is growing – it is not reflecting in job numbers – a jobless recovery is a serious concern.[/quote[

Joblessness IS the recovery – fear induced levels of productivity and/or unpaid labour.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/30/AR2010033004091.html?hpid=topnews

Sooner or later that trend will reverse if it hasn’t already but who knows what’ll happen then.

Wow it is unbelievable the amount of Trolling LC gets, I went over to conservative home yesterday for a laugh and could barely find any. I guess liberals find it easier to tolerate other peoples opinions or maybe conservatives just want to crush dissent. Well I’m not going to stop people trolling but it definitely reassures me. I think the saying that has been attributed to Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi applies best here… ‘First they Ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you and then you win’.

@16 Heh, you should check out the comments at those perceived bastions of lefty thought, the BBC’s Have your say and Guardian’s Comment is Free web-pages. With a name like Liberal Conspiracy, a name that practically screams “Latte drinking, sandal wearing Guardianistas found here”, how could this site NOT suffer from the same malaise.

George Orwell 1984-

‘How does one man assert his power over another, Winston?’ Winston thought. ‘By making him suffer,’ he said. ‘Exactly. By making him suffer. Obedience is not enough. Unless he is suffering, how can you be sure that he is obeying your will and not his own? Power is in inflicting pain and humiliation. Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing. Do you begin to see, then, what kind of world we are creating? It is the exact opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined. A world of fear and treachery and torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but MORE merciless as it refines itself. Progress in our world will be progress towards more pain. The old civilizations claimed that they were founded on love or justice. Ours is founded upon hatred.

Yup, for all the Rights talk about freedom, they hate other peoples views. Which is why they favour a capitalistic media. It shuts down debate. They hate the BBC because it is balanced. You will find little liberal trolling on right wing sites, because liberals tend to me much more confident in their own views and their own opinions. They see no need to go trolling. They also are more balanced people. They have lives to lead, and have got better things to do.

Tory trolls are mostly inadequate, who are very needy, and want attention. Something to do with their failure to lead a normal life.

Very worrying figures indeed. Small businesses need more confidence that they are going to receive the necessary support from the Government over the coming years. Until that time, companies are going to continue to be hesitant over their hiring strategies.

@ Cylux

I took your advice and gosh! the venom on the guardian website is ridiculous! Every few comment there is a right winger calling liberals, nazi communists who are trying to take over the world with union support. The internet does seem to bring the best out of conservatives….

@ Sally

You have such a better way of putting these things Sally. Keep posting it always puts a smile on my face 🙂


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