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Watch: When Cameron promised not to cut EMA


9:30 am - January 17th 2011

by Sunny Hundal    


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A vote in Parliament and protests across the country are planned this week in relation to the axing of the Educational Maintenance Allowance (EMAs).

There was not previously going to be a vote as it came under departmental spending. But Labour is planning to force a motion through the Commons on Wednesday 19th January.

James Mills of the Save EMA campaign told Liberal Conspiracy:

The 19th January will be the time when we will know which MPs want to support his lie and those who want to stand up for the poorest teenagers in our country and Save EMA.

At a Cameron Direct event in January 2009, David Cameron responded to a question from Save EMA campaign director James Mills, says that he supports Educational Maintenance Allowances.

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And when education secretary Michael Gove was interviewed by Education Guardian readers before the general election, he said:

Ed Balls keeps saying that we are committed to scrapping the EMA. I have never said this. We won’t.

But the Tory-led government is ending EMA and plans to cease all payments at the end of the academic year 2011.

A report by the independent Institute of Fiscal Studies late last year came out strongly against the government’s claims on EMA, arguing that:

1. Previous work by IFS researchers found that the EMA significantly increased participation rates in post-16 education among young adults who were eligible to receive it.

2. The costs of providing EMA were likely to be exceeded in the long run by the higher wages that its recipients would go to enjoy in future.

More on that report here

A local day of action across the country has been called for tomorrow.

A march on Parliament is also planned by Education Activist Network later in the day.

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Do you have a clip of Labour promising NOT to introduce tuition/top up fees?

He just about deceived on everything. take the NHS reforms. He said before that the restructuring and changing should stop and that the people who work in the health service know best. The Doctors today are saying that the changes being made are’t good for the NHS so Cameron ignores them and says it is good.

I have a feeling that the Tories really don’t know what they are doing or saying.

He doesn’t seem to be promising not to cut EMA in that clip, just saying that they have no plans (2009) to cut it. Indeed, the fact that he claims that EMA is “divisive” might well be taken to suggest that they were open to cutting it.

For heaven’s sake, he’s a politician. He will have definitely used language to give the impression that he’d protect EMA but I guarantee that he’ll never have boxed himself into a commitment on it.

5. Cynical/Realist?

@4 – ohhhhh, that’s alright then.

He did clearly though say “we don’t have plans too cut”, which is political-speak for “I’m not saying either way”. And when the questioner asks for a guarantee Cameron gets proper shirty with him, “look pleb, I’ve given you a perfectly clear and upfront ambiguous answer, now shut your cake-hole”.

@1: “Do you have a clip of Labour promising NOT to introduce tuition/top up fees?”

Try this clear pledge about top-up fees, made by Blunkett the education minister, in February 2001 before the election that year:

“Top-up fees for students will remain outlawed if the government wins the next general election, the Education Secretary, David Blunkett, has said.” [8 February 2001]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/1160403.stm

Call me Dave is a liar just like Clegg.

Two liars who have no shame. How very British.

@7: “Call me Dave is a liar just like Clegg.”

A lot of folks probably thought Tony Blair meant it when it he said in a keynote speech in Chicago in April 1999:

“If we want a world ruled by law and by international co-operation then we have to support the UN as its central pillar.”
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/international/jan-june99/blair_doctrine4-23.html

And that Gordon Brown really had abolished “boom ‘n’ bust”.

The truth of the matter is that politicians say such things for no better reason than it seems like a good idea at the time and it will likely attract votes.

More than half of MPs have been found guilty of over-claiming on their parliamentary expenses
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/7161198/More-than-half-of-MPs-guilty-of-over-claiming-expenses.html

Estate agents and politicians among least trusted professions
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5085369/Estate-agents-and-politicians-among-least-trusted-professions.html

As someone put it long ago: You can always tell when a politician is lying – their lips move.

@5 I’m not saying that it’s alright, merely that it’s not surprising or precisely as the headline of this piece indicates.

@4/5

Let’s face it, he could’ve signed something like, hmm, a “pledge” that he wouldn’t touch EMA & still backtrack on his promise. Sound familiar at all…

If this government proves anything it’s that both the Tories and Lib Dems cannot be trusted to follow through anything they say pre-election. Let’s remind folk of that come 2015 when they promise the earth again.

@10: “If this government proves anything it’s that both the Tories and Lib Dems cannot be trusted to follow through anything they say pre-election. Let’s remind folk of that come 2015 when they promise the earth again.”

I heartily agree. Unfortunately, on its record in government, much the same can be said of Labour too.

12. Robert Morgan

You all seem to be saying that all Cameron gives is a politicians’ “no plans to” nudge-nudge answer, and that’s certainly what he tries to do. But he’s just not that good: haven’t you all noticed the bit at the end where he says “Labour say we’re going to, but we’re not”?

It seems to have been a theme of this election, Labour politicians saying these crazy things – like “vote for Clegg, get Cameron” – Tories demanding their retraction and then doing them.


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