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The fall of Tommy Sheridan


5:11 pm - December 23rd 2010

by Dave Osler    


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That Tommy Sheridan was the most charismatic and gifted revolutionary socialist politician of recent decades is beyond serious dispute, and I always used to admire him for that. I still do, I suppose.

In a period where the left  failed to find a widespread hearing, he alone proved capable of building a substantial electoral base for basic class struggle ideas.

Without him, the Scottish Socialist Party would not have achieved the measure of success it did achieve, and the credit for this can never be taken away from him.

That he used the fame that inevitably ensued to his personal sexual advantage is not an issue that should be of pressing concern to anyone other than himself and those with whom he slept. No one should cast judgement on the consensual relationships or others, be they gay, straight, marital, adulterous, based on auto-erotic asphyxiation, administered by hookers dressed up in Luftwaffe uniforms, or participated in by however many can squeeze into a bed in a cheap hotel room.

At the time the News of the World published details of his visits to a swingers’ club in Manchester, Sheridan had sufficient popularity North of the Border to take exactly that stance. A dignified ‘no comment’ or a rigid ‘none of your business’ line, and he would have rode out the publicity, in much the same way as any other married politician caught playing away by the red tops.

There are enough broadminded adults out there to ensure that nookie with someone other than the missus is not the automatic end of a political career, as figures from Shagger Norris to Paddy Pantsdown can testify. Millions of us could not cast the first stone.

I cannot imagine what drove Sheridan to sue for libel instead. In a country where religious feelings are more widespread than in England, perhaps he felt that the revelations were electorally damaging. Perhaps he saw a one-off opportunity to make some serious cash. One day his memoirs will presumably tell us.

But what was inadmissible right from the start was his expectation that his comrades were somehow duty bound to stand up in the dock and commit the criminal offence of perjury in his support.

Sheridan’s supporters have argued all along that it is the elementary responsibility of socialists to defend other socialists against the Murdoch press, at all times and in all circumstances, and at any degree of jeopardy. The reality is that everything depends on the political issues at stake. Where there is sufficient cause for such a risk, then the correct course would naturally be to take it.

But unlike, say, John Maclean or the leadership of the Communist Party of Great Britain before the general strike, Sheridan was not before the court on charges of sedition.

Unlike Jock Haston, Roy Tearse, Heaton Lee and Ann Keen, he did not stand in front of a jury for his support for unofficial industrial action. Unlike Ricky Tomlinson, Des Warren, the Pentonville Five or hundreds of miners in 1984 and 1985, the issue at hand was not his conduct on the picket line.

Sheridan’s conviction today flows entirely from his insane determination to lie about his inability to keep it in his trousers. As a result, he has destroyed everything he spent the first half of his life building up, just at a time when a party premised on militant opposition to coalition austerity could truly have hit the big time.

However sorry one has to feel for the family, the biggest tragedy about what has happened is the setback this represents for the far left as a whole.

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Another example of a male leader who has let people down. Maybe it is time to realise that leaders have their time and place but that we can replace them when their job is done.

Well, he’s really screwed up, but there’s no reason he shouldn’t return to politics after he’s done his time. I’d vote for a criminal if he or she had the right political views – personal lives and misdemeanours really don’t matter.

“Sheridan’s supporters have argued all along that it is the elementary responsibility of socialists to defend other socialists against the Murdoch press, at all times and in all circumstances, and at any degree of jeopardy.”

How can lying in court be acceptable even if Murdoch is the enemy? That suggests that they are actually in the wrong.

The article assumes Sheridan’s purpose could only have been political. Perhaps he was trying to persuade his wife? That would seem to be the obvious conclusion. He’s a very persuasive politician and presumably a very persuasive husband too. But she must be getting suspicious by now!

They never learn.

As you say , a simple ‘no comment’ is all that is needed when dealing with the gutter press.

Very depressing to see the Labour party prostrating itself before Murdoch. Good luck with that at the next election. If he supports you it will mean you stand for nothing.

Whatever the rights and wrongs on Sheridan’s side, it still beggars belief that they wasted 50,000 police hours proving that a man lied about going to a sex club. Nobody benefits from this court case or from Sheridan going to prison for this – it’s a waste of time and public money all round.

Vicky – I can’t agree. That is a lot of time, but he is a very high profile figure. No one whould be allowed to get away with lying to a court. Especially not those who might set an example to others. Justice is hard to maintain so those who wish to thwart it should be taught a lesson as an example to others.

I hope assange supporters are taking note.

Your hero can lie to you, and even judges & jurors to protect their own skin & credibility.

The big difference as far as the Crown Office was concerned he was not lying in court to defend himself against charges. It is almost expected that defendants will lie to save themselves. However, he was the one raising the action against News International and lying. He was not the defendant. In such circumstances the crown was right to pursue the case after such a prominent case and figure. Otherwise, the whole criminal justice system is brought into disrepute. He did not have to go to court. Therefore, he brought the whole thing upon himself.

“I hope assange supporters are taking note.

Your hero can lie to you, and even judges & jurors to protect their own skin & credibility.”

Shorter troll…….One lefty lied, so all liberals lie.

11. jules Morgan

I truly am gob smacked , there has been so much money spent on this case… when frankly there are far worse people out there than the love able minx Tommy….lol.. I mean so what … he has a private life… I will say one thing.. I had my flat repossessed this year ( due to greedy banks)… Have been rendered homeless and I am a Staff Nurse… I am lucky to have great friends n family … other wise I would have been on the streets…. hardly any social or council housing around any more due to Thatchers years in power…. The point I make… Tommy really stuck up for the working classes…. he played part in Scotland changing the law, when a home is repossessed the individual does not have to go through the extra trauma of having all their personal belongings sold… as is the case in England… I have personally gone through so much also fighting my case in court against RBS.. long story… I know what it is like to go through court etc…

I really feel for Tommy… n what I would say to him is he is still admired by the prolatariat…. n I hope he comes out stronger… I am an artist n I may well decide to paint his picture….. He has done alot of good… more than the current Goverment who is wrecking the NHS.. care system..

“Well, he’s really screwed up, but there’s no reason he shouldn’t return to politics after he’s done his time.”

Except that we will probably see him get a prison sentence that is *just* long enough to bar him from ever standing for Parliament again. You know, just one of those interesting little coincidences?

It’s a funny old world. He lies about his sex life and is pursued with a vengeance by the law. Yet Murdoch’s empire lies about all sorts of things. War, weapons of mass destruction, and the politicians are falling over themselves to kiss his feet.

Sally, he was not pursued for lying about his sex life. He was pursued for lying under oath.

Yes, but he was lying under oath about his private life.

I take your point, but the bigger liar still has the politicians on their knees bowing and scraping.

Funny old world.

Well, a more complete version might be that he lied under oath about his sex life to get 200,000 quid.

However, he didn’t use lies to justify an illegal invasion. It would be good to prosecute that sort of thing too in my opinion.

Note, good leaders are only of the moment and mood, managers are enduring, tenacious and committed to cause. This man was neither. We should only be following the best examples in our time frame of history.

Ted,

Mr Clegg for example?

Sheridan, Galloway,Scargill & Gerry Healey. Dont you ever wonder if a Movement that gets such glorious Leaders might have something rotten at its core ?

As I just wrote over at Political Scrapbook, almost every time in history that any one has seriously challenged the establishment, smear campaigns have been used to discredit them – to spread the belief that resistance is somehow rotten (a trap Paul Barker has evidently already fallen for). Whether they did or did not do things, any dirt that can be flung at people has been dug up.

Sheridan is certainly someone who has challenged the establishment, not least as chair of the anti-poll tax league which not only defeated the Poll Tax, but weakened Thatcher too

As you mention him – Love him or loathe him – Galloway was found Not Guilty of the allegations against him by the Telegraph and the Chistian Science Monitor. But people mainly remember the allegations that successfully (momentarily) set back teh Peace movement.

To be honest I really don’t care about Sheridan’s sexual habits. The less thought about the sex life of any politician the better.

I think Dave Osler has the right of it. I would view someone’s bedroom shenanigans as immaterial, (unless they were on a relevant moralising crusade), and so would most people these days.

Lying under oath rather shows the measure of the man though.

Hubris lead to nemesis, as it always does.

Will he appeal?

“Sheridan, Galloway,Scargill & Gerry Healey. Dont you ever wonder if a Movement that gets such glorious Leaders might have something rotten at its core?”

Quite.

A “setback for the far left as a whole”?

Well, inasmuch as it could be set back any further, I guess it’s an ill wind that blows no good!

24 cjcj

Perhaps when parties of the right have majority support in Scotland, you can come back and lecture us about set backs for the left cjcj?

Hubris isn’t the prerogative of the left, as the demise of the Scottish Tory party over the past decades amply demonstrates.

@ 18. sally

Not one of the most difficult decisions for any of us to make ! In Cleggs case, “pride goes before a fall and a haughty spirit before disaster”

The Daily Mash is bang on:

“The bright orange former Big Brother contestant has been a fierce critic of News International, particularly when he was a columnist for the Mirror Group, the newspaper company owned by banks and pension funds that make Rupert Murdoch look like Mahatma Ghandi’s lovely old mum.

But now the guilty verdict has shattered his plans to return triumphantly to his utterly insignificant political career in which he made not the slightest difference to anything.”

Sheridan, Galloway,Scargill & Gerry Healey. Dont you ever wonder if a Movement that gets such glorious Leaders might have something rotten at its core?

The entire business of politics is rotten at its core. With a (very) few notable exceptions, only sociopathic egomaniacs go into politics professionally. The difference is that on the right, they blend in.

“Well, a more complete version might be that he lied under oath about his sex life to get 200,000 quid.”

I think he basically wanted NI journos in court to be cross examined. In both trials. He managed to be the only person to get coulson questioned under oath. I think he probably thought he could use his persuasive skills to get a jury to stick 2 fingers up at murdoch, and get Coulson to commit perjury as well.

I wouldn’t put money on this being the end of him either.

I wan’t lecturing anyone.
It was the OP wot called this a setback for the *far* left.

I was just making a small comment in the spirit of Christmas!

PS – I’m sure you’ll return the favour by not lecturing the English on devolved issues?!!

cjcjc,

You what?

I wan’t lecturing anyone.

….

Well, inasmuch as it could be set back any further, I guess it’s an ill wind that blows no good!

You are absolutely correct. You do not lecture, you preach.

29

Hmmnnn… the OP may have described it as such, but you then applauded it of course.

As for not lecturing the English on devolved issues, I’m not sure how your criticism is particularly germane to the issue under discussion since I live in England.

My point was that Sheridan’s spectacular own goal actually tells us little or nothing about whether it is a setback for the Left as a whole (he just isn’t that important; he and his party are already a busted flush) or even in a more limited sense within Scotland.

Even if it were significant however, it is a bit rich for someone with your background to try and crow about setbacks for the left given the “zero option” handed out to the Tories by my countrymen North of the border. It wouldn’t seem the left has been particularly badly impacted there would it? 😉

Your “countrymen”?
Do you consider yourself to be living in a foreign country in England?!

And you have no idea of my background.
FWIW my dad was a printer.

Merry Xmas anyway!

PS good Daily Mash on Sheridan

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/sheridan-facing-three%11in%11a%11bed-sex-sessions-whether-he-likes-it-or-not-201012243387/

“But now the guilty verdict has shattered his plans to return triumphantly to his utterly insignificant political career in which he made not the slightest difference to anything.”

33

I’m Scottish, so yes England is a “foreign” country, even if it is part of the UK. If the day comes, I’ll have a Scottish rather than a British passport, which probably isn’t that unusual amongst Scots wherever they might be living now.

I meant your political background, as evidenced from reading your previous posts on this an other threads. I don’t care about your working class street creds.

The Daily Mash is right about Sheridan…he was and is insignificant.

A Happy Festive Season to you too by the way! 😉

cjcjc,

Do you consider yourself to be living in a foreign country in England?!

Yes you stupid bugger;

It is a foreign land.

And Tommy Sheridan is a tit.

You have no idea cjcjc, you really haven’t….

Incidentally, what political party do you support so’s we can poke fun at them as well? SWP? BNP? Or Pirate Party?

You hand it out cjcjc, but you stand for fuck all.

Lie under oath in court and you are a perjurer – and therefore off to jail you go. A certain well-known Lord who made a fortune from potboiler fiction found the same law applied to him as well. But did he fall? How do you define fall? Disgrace and permanent exclusion from ‘polite’ society? Surely that old tradition fell from favour when that same Lord retained his title and krug champagne intact – perjury and pulp fiction notwithstanding. We are surely grown up and secular enough not to consider liars, fallen politicians and their perjuring ilk beyond redemption nowadays are we? One restriction that we are long overdue in placing on those in unelected authority ( i.e. The Media Barons) – is that they should only be allowed to own British Newspapers and News Media if they also hold British Citizenship. Wasn’t this the reason that the digger became an American Citizen? Let’s be consistent and play by the rules that he willingly accepts. This small step might be the first in shifting real power back to the electorate and the elected.

A terrible waste of money on this trial when you consider that people tell lies in court all time. In fact pleading not guilty when a jury subsequently finds you guilty is perjury. So working on that basis why don’t they charge those who plead not guilty and lose with perjury?

Good post Dave Osler –

Tommy Sheridan won against News of the World because of the jury’s distaste for Murdoch.

The tremendous effort put in by the police to get this man is incomprehensible; and yet the verdict still does not seem that clear-cut.

I agree with Planeshift. There will be more. I will be disappointed if there is not. This time it will be NOTW, Coulson, NI and Murdoch who will be exposed AND of course the politicians who scam the electorate for the mogul.

Sheridan will make a comeback and it will be as a part of the broader battle against Newscorp. It is truly astonishing that no great effort has been exerted by the Met in pursuing Coulson and NI, that is a battle worth pursuing. And Sheridan will have a role to play, from his cell if necessary. There is no bigger battle on the horizon.

As for the internal strife within the Scottish left this has caused, it is truly regrettable and it will take a long time to heal.

Chin up Mr Sheridan – Gramsci, John Bunyan and John Maclean forged their legacy and reputations in prison cells. You have illustrious predecessors. Remember – what goes down can also go up. Up the rebels! No surrender!

32 Galen:

Forgive the petty pedantry but Zero option should surely read ‘Zero Tolerance’ with regard to the Scotsman’s truck with Tories. Do you have any spare missionaries north of the border that you could send south to convert the Sassanach’s addiction to Toryism – to the Scottish example? I believe that if you Scots can live without Tories – then it is possible in adjacent, hidebound countries too.

It’s difficult to mark the exact point of Sheridan’s downfall but I don’t think anyone would suggest it should be placed after he said to himself, “Aye that tabloid journalist we had a gang-bang with – she can be relied on to keep quiet.”

Once it came out, he went for the perennial Scottish schoolboy excuse strategy of claiming, “It wasnae me”. Despite not working in court, some commentators still attempt to rationalise this absurdity and explain it in terms of the class struggle.

I blame the teachers…

That Tommy Sheridan was the most charismatic and gifted revolutionary socialist politician of recent decades is beyond serious dispute, and I always used to admire him for that. I still do, I suppose.

I didn’t think he was much good. I was at a Militant meeting in Glasgow years ago when he spoke, and I found all his fiery passion a bit too much. Especially as the audience at it were just council estate folk from Pollock and he just bamboozled them with his oratory style and personality … rather than substance I thought.
I looked on the SSP website and they have a big splash on ”The Cuban revolution after 50 years”
How daft is that?

@ 40 Mulligrubs

No, I used zero option deliberately, as in the spectacle of there being zero tory MP’s in Scotland as in 1997. People should bear in mind that as recently as 1955 the Tories polled over half the vote in scotland, and won 36 of 72 seats. In the most recent election they won 1 seat and just over 15% of the vote.

Sadly, I now live in deepest, darkest blue Sussex… the chances for any missionaries here aren’t good sadly, although if we do manage to get electoral reform at least the vote won’t be totally wasted next time.

Of course, it the Labour party had any smarts, it would have introduced PR years ago, and we wouldn’t be in this mess now.

Sadly, I now live in deepest, darkest blue Sussex

“There are many fine prospects in Scotland … but the finest sight a Scotsman ever sees is the high road to England.” – Dr. Johnson

There is an interesting take on this case here:

http://tinyurl.com/39gjzvn

44

Perhaps it’s a shame there hadn’t been more of us down here ’tis true…. then perhaps we could have ensured English society had turned out better than it has huh? 😉

While of course he was and is guilty, there is a degree of doubt as to his culpability ( that is his blameworthiness ) of the crimes, there is sufficient evidence to point to there being some degree of manipulation of Tommy into this position, indeed although the video tape recorded by his long time friend may have other expanations it seems a very shadowy thing for any individual to do for any reason.

Personally I believe he was to some extent (at least) manipulated into this position in order to remove him from what was the largest Socialist movement in Europe at the time it all kicked off.

Conspiracy theory? crackpot paranoia? or perhaps i’ve just seen too much of what men can do to preserve the gravy train!

43 Galen:
Och Aye to that – I stand corrected – Lang may your lums reek and a Happy New Year to ye. By that way – do you consider yoursel a Sussexnach? – I do hope not!
Tak nae notice of Dr Johnson – he was a Tory.

49. An Duine Grumach

Chris:

“Well, he’s really screwed up, but there’s no reason he shouldn’t return to politics after he’s done his time”

Yes there is. Having been convicted of perjury he cannot stand for election to the Scottish Parliament – or Westminster either, I think.

Agonised over this debacle, but couldn’t have put it better, very very, sad.

It beggars belief that for 6 years, those in the SSP who would not lie or commit to Sheridans suicidal bluff have been left out in the cold by so called comrades. I think there are a lot on the left who should put their hands up and apologise to these comrades who Sheridan abused across the courts he dragged them to.

@51 plot tracer

That’s simply inaccurate, Solidarity (www.new.solidarityscotland.org) is the organisation Tommy Sheridan setup after leaving the SSP (www.scottishsocialistparty.org) duing this debacle, Colin Fox and Frances Curran are now co-conveners of what remains of the SSP, though it’s not the organisation it was due the the many who left the socialist movement and those who split to join Solidarity or other organisations.

by inaccurate i mean if anyone’s out in the cold it’s Mr Sherridan


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