How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre


8:50 am - December 14th 2010

by Sunny Hundal    


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The story of Jody McIntyre has been referred to a few times across blogs and news reports since the last demo, but not enough to do it proper justice.

Late yesterday, as the full story came out once videos were uploaded to YouTube, the tactics of the Met Police and sneering BBC presenters was in full display.

20yr old Jody has cerebral palsy and went to the demo on a wheelchair. He was twice dragged out of his wheelchair by police officers.

The second time it happened it was caught on video (below). It clearly shows officer pulling him out of the wheelchair and dragging him across the road and pulling him to the pavement. Students watching in horror clearly shout: “What the fuck are you doing, the man is in a wheelchair,” but they are ignored.

(Longer, unedited version is here)

The Metro also has a picture of Jody being carried off his wheelchair by several policeman.

What’s even more callous is the way he is later interviewed by the BBC’s Ben Brown last night.

During the interview, Jody talks of how the media has ignored people like Alfie Meadows, who had to be hospitalised after receiving brain injuries, and what the media reaction would have been if Charles or Camilla were in the same situation. As expected, the presenter completely ignores that and asks whether Jody himself had thrown missiles at the police. (he just told you his brother had to push him on the wheelchair, you fucking dimwit).

The presenter then later asks whether Jody had shouted “anything provocative” or anything “that would have induced the police to do that to you”.

JM replies: “Do you really think a person with cerebral palsy, in a wheelchair, poses a threat to a police officer who is armed with weapons?”

The presenter responds: “But you do say you’re a revolutionary…” Where does the BBC find these halfwits? The implication is that Jody McIntyre probably deserved it.

Sky News has a much better interview. The Guardian and The Independent are now reporting on the case.
(links via @earwicga and @tenpercent)

Is anyone still going to argue the Met polce behaved proportionately to what happened last week?

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Hot news update:

Chaos last night surrounded the potential use of water cannon against violent protesters.

As Home Secretary Theresa May appeared to rule out its use on the British mainland, Scotland Yard insisted it would be ‘foolish’ not to consider deploying the high pressure hoses to control rioting protesters.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1338352/Police-say-Theresa-May-foolish-rule-water-cannon-use-riots.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

I think you’ll find that being in a wheelchair does not excuse any individual from their legal and social responsibilities towards others or their property. There’s a lot more to come out on this one.

“While I was out there, Israel committed a massacre in Gaza, and planted the seeds of revolution in my mind. The rest, as they say, is history.”

http://jodymcintyre.wordpress.com/about/

OK. Juvenile and irritating but no grounds for violence.

But then I turn to the video and, again, as with so much of your hype, turns out that it shows the police not doing much harm at all.

Perhaps that is why he hasn’t lodged a complaint?

And I’m not sure what is “callous” about questioning the motives of a protester.

Two coppers pull the policeman bully away from the scene.

Did they do that because they were appalled at their colleague’s actions or because they knew it was being filmed and were trying to protect him from incriminating himself further ?

@ 4 Sandy……that’s what investigations are for, to answer questions such as yours

Ben Brown came across as a callous bully desperate to echo the Scotland Yard line and find something, anything that Jody McIntyre could have done to justify the police action.

Nothing on this earth justifies treating people in such a way.

It was pathetic, especially when contrasted by the dignity Jody McIntyre showed in referring to Alfie Meadows as the real victim.

Well done Mr McIntyre.

The only good thing to come out of this is that now the world knows what scumbags the Met Police employ.

I have just watched this incident and also the interview and i am utterly shocked.
Why were there 3 police around him.
Did they think he was a suicide bomber perhaps because that is the only explanation i can come up with.
Also the questioning by Ben Brown was disgusting and i will be making a formal complaint to the BBC.
I was inside parliament on Thursday when it was all kicking off outside and we were let out through Parliament sq at 10.00pm when fires were still burning all around the square.
I spoke to a fairly senior policeman on the Friday who intimated to me that even though they wanted to extinguish the fires they were told not to.
The reasoning must have been that it made the whole place look like more of a war zone.
There have been some strange things going on over the last 3 weeks.

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It’s really sad how you are using a disabled man, wheeling him deliberately into the thick of the action, and with others behind him throwing missiles at the police, to further your cause. What next, sending pregnant women in to “break the line”, as Charlie Gilmour said?

Bob B, THE ACTUAL MAIL STORY SAYS THERESA MAY WOULD BE FOOLISH TO RULE THEM OUT, IT DOENS’T SAY SHE WOULD RULE THEM OUT AND THE POLICE ACTUALLY SAID THEY WERENT’ GOING TO USE THEM,

@6: “The only good thing to come out of this is that now the world knows what scumbags the Met Police employ.”

Compare that with this acute observation from a previous Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police: Sir Robert Mark, “a good police force is one that catches more crooks than it employs.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/politics-obituaries/8037604/Sir-Robert-Mark.html

@10:

Readers can check, I’m quoting directly from Tuesday’s Daily Mail:

“Commander Bob Broadhurst, of the Metropolitan Police, failed to rule out the use of the truck mounted hoses – which have only been previously seen on the streets of Northern Ireland.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1338352/Police-say-Theresa-May-foolish-rule-water-cannon-use-riots.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

13. Arthur Thistlewood

9: I’m pretty sure Jody has a will of his own, and appropriate or not, he wanted to be there.

@9 “It’s really sad how you are using a disabled man, wheeling him deliberately into the thick of the action, and with others behind him throwing missiles at the police, to further your cause”

If you watch the BBC video, I think you will see that no one was using Jody McIntyre.

ted,

I think you’ll find that being in a wheelchair does not excuse any individual from their legal and social responsibilities towards others or their property.

Of course it doesn’t excuse them! But people – including police, we are all under the same laws – may only use reasonable force for self-defence, defence of another, defence of property, prevention of crime, or lawful arrest. So the police officer must be able to justify his use of force against Mr McIntyre.

cjcjc,

But then I turn to the video and, again, as with so much of your hype, turns out that it shows the police not doing much harm at all.

More harm to dignity than the body, I expect. But nevertheless an assault if it wasn’t a lawful use of force.

James Mills

… why hasn’t Jody M launched an actual complaint?

He said in the interview that he was discussing his options with a lawyer. What’s wrong with that?

“But nevertheless an assault if it wasn’t a lawful use of force.”

Of course.

17. Cynical/Realist?

Christ on a flaming bike!

Even if Jody McKintyre was provocating, does he really need pulling from his chair to be restrained? Is there no other way of restraining a man in a wheelchair than throwing him out and having three officer jump on him?

Do you right-wing nuts really think this? Of course being in a wheelchair doesn’t excuse anyone from anything. And of course he chose to be there. But really? Three police officers dragging someone who needed pushing in from their chair as a way of restraint? This is just is it?

9 James Mills

Exactly who are you accusing of “using” a disabled man by wheeling him into the action?

Do you actually think that people in wheelchairs shouldn’t be allowed to join demonstrations, or do you somehow believe that he was wheeled there against his will to further the aims of Liberal Conspiracy or some other group?

The BBC’s increasing attempt to appease the brown shirt right wing is as futile as Chamberlin’s 70 years ago. They fill our screens with Clarkson, and Portilo , and the milky bar kid Gove can be asked on to give is brain dead opinions on culture. But it is a waste of time. They can hand over their political department to staunch Thatcherite, and former Murdoch bag carrier Neil, and Tory member Robinson. Paxman can invite on a bunch of insane American Neo cons to spout their lies, but it won’t do any good. They can turn their news department into a Daily Mail front page, it will never be enough. Have a big fat tory cow to dance away Saturday night, it won’t achieve anything.

Time the BBC understand that the brown shirts want it’s destruction, and no playing nice with the tory brown shirts will ever work

20. Cynical/Realist?

As previous comments I hope show, I do not condone any violence – its highly counter-productive. Civil disobedience – yes, absolutly. But not violence.

So with that in mind, am the only one who thought the rest of the crowd showed a huge amount of restraint in not tearing each of those officers of the law apart?

If this so called Coalition is not careful protesters my decide that it is ” Far More Safer ” to have the demonstrations during the 2012 Olympics to gaurantee no more injuries to both Police and Demonstrators. In addition to this the Police would not risk accidental injuries if they have use of water cannons. Problem solved because it would be a peaceful demonstration because everyone is in the spotlight and at the same time the students voices would be heard.

“Flagrantly disregarding video evidence of a physically disabled person dragged across the road, Ben instead insinuates that Jody’s claims of revolution on his website combined with his menacing “rolling” towards an “army of police officers armed with weapons” are enough to justify such violence. This logic is ludicrous and unfounded, almost irrelevant, but the thing that pisses me off the most about this video is the constant fucking interrupting, which comes off as contemptuous censoring.”

Read more at http://ewfbtw.blogspot.com/2010/12/news-ben-browns-interview-with-jody.html

Ted the deluded tory “4 Sandy……that’s what investigations are for, to answer questions such as yours”

Yea right, I mean no one with a brain has any confidence in any police investigation. It is not as if they have not lied in court, and in numerous inquiries in the past. It is not as if the have not smeared their victims in their Murdoch friendly papers, which they then refuse to properly investigate for their illegal wire tapping.

Yea only Conservatives have any faith in police investigations. Probably because they always find in the police’s favour, and no chargers are every brought, funny that!

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26. scandalousbill

The most disturbing aspect of the BBC coverage was the focus, in replay of the video, of speculation to whether he was pulled out of his wheelchair or pushed himself out. By the same token, I suppose you can ask whether a victim of a shooting placed themselves in front of the bullet. The hauling of a disabled man across the pavement, whether it was three or a single police officer involved, is well beyond the notion of reasonable force imply on the basis that a greater potential for injury exists with people who are not able bodied.

This point was lost in the ensuing coverage.

@20 – “So with that in mind, am [I] the only one who thought the rest of the crowd showed a huge amount of restraint in not tearing each of those officers of the law apart?”

Er, no – I agree.

Unfortunately, I think the media storm surrounding the protest is only likely to inflame the situation – anyone on the streets this week or next will have such images in mind – and I fear it’s only a matter of time before someone is killed.

I speculate that certain elements of the establishment and the more violent, would-be ‘revolutionaries’, whilst no doubt claiming to be appalled by the act, would ultimately welcome it…

@21 – “… have the demonstrations during the 2012 Olympics…”

Absolutely! (And at any major public event, for that matter.)

Is it any wonder why trust in the BBC has fallen to less than 50% for the first time ever?

29. Luis Enrique

a happy outcome: the BBC presenter tried to humiliate* Jody but ended up humiliating himself.

* he would probably see it as “tried to ask the tough questions”

cynicalrealist, maybe th ecrowd didn’t tear th e police apart who restraied mackintyre because ,a they wreen’t fascist murderers
b, there was armed police there,
c they would go to prison for along time,
d there was alot more police thean protesters and wouldn’t have stood a chance

@J

“I fear it’s only a matter of time before someone is killed.”

There were go, that’s precisely what the left wing oldies spurring on these manic student yobs are excited about, another martyr! You’re even threatening it now. It’s only a matter of time, you say. Well if someone does lose their life it will because of the ever-rising tide of violence first unleashed at Millbank in November. Their blood will be on your hands.

@James Mills (31)

Your comments read very much like the paranoid, anti-lefty ramblings of your average EDL troll on twitter. Like them, your comments are rabid and formulaic! Much better spelling and grammar though! 😉

@31 – “There were go, that’s precisely what the left wing oldies spurring on these manic student yobs are excited about, another martyr!”

That’s precisely what I said. Them – and the establishment (as it legitimises ‘extraordinary’ measures).

“You’re even threatening it now.”

I’m not threatening anything, you tosser. Can’t you read?

“Their blood will be on your hands.”

I don’t want anyone to die. Isn’t that clear from my post? Like Cynical/Realist (@20) I support civil disobedience and non-violent protest. Anyone wanting “blood” can fuck off.

The Police forget they are human themselves sometimes and get carried away with state aggression because they have the power. They are just state lackeys drones without a mind of their own.

better dead then ted.

24

I’m doing no such thing, I’m merely pointing out that your first post, and those since, just make you look like a paranoid mentalist.

Naturally you haven’t answered the perfectly reasonable questions posed to you (no huge surprise there given the tenor of your posts…but you might at least have made some effort….).

Why would your natural assumption be that the man in the wheelchair, or for that matter a pregnant woman, wasn’t capable of making an informed choice to take part in this (or any other) demonstration? It seems inherently much more likely than your frankly rather kooky assumption that they are helpless dupes, or were being manipulated by whichever imaginary bunch of lefty-liberals your paraniod fantasies have told you are controlling things.

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@31 – Ah I get it now, so because someone threw a fire extinguisher off the roof the police are totally justified in staving peoples heads in, beating young women and making small children cry.

“better dead then ted.”

Very good!

Ted is only concerned with “property.” He says “property” a lot, which shows his priorities.

My only comment on this, and the other incidents of violence, is that it proves once again how stupid and naive many of the tories are. After Ian Tomlinson, De Menezes etc one would have thought the lesson that you shouldn’t automatically believe the police version of events, and assume victims of police violence deserved it, would have been learned.

Once again, conservatives prove they don’t care about civil liberties. The party that supported Pinochet is alive and well.

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Just as shocking as the policemen’s actions are the words of those defending them. Obviously, beating up disabled men is just what normal, right leaning British citizens like to do. Sadly, all too true, in fact. Is institutional hatred of the disabled mixed in there with institutional racism, sexism and homophobia. After all, the (Daily Mail and Sun-reading) people’s police force reflects the parts of society from which it is drawn. To them, protesting against anything designed to bring down taxes and punish the poor for being poor is verbotten. Protesting against immigrants now, that’s okay.

@Steve M (34)

“The Police forget they are human themselves sometimes and get carried away with state aggression because they have the power. They are just state lackeys drones without a mind of their own.”

Based on what I have read, in the form of peer reviewed articles concerning the psychology of power, that may not be far from the truth. Human beings are capable of some rather disgusting behaviour when given the power!

The only was to counter such is to have a credible means to censure and prosecute precisely this kind of authoritarian behaviour. Sadly, with a piss poor mainstream media and an IPCC which is not fit for purpose, such censure doesn’t seem forthcoming. I hope I’m wrong of course, but the case of Ian Tomlinson does seem to vindicate the view that the IPCC is either corrupt, incompetent or toothless (or two or more of the above).

41 ” After Ian Tomlinson, De Menezes etc one would have thought the lesson that you shouldn’t automatically believe the police version of events, and assume victims of police violence deserved it, would have been learned.”

They are not interested in learning. The right wing are delighted to see the police beat the shit out of people. It deters others from taking to the streets.

It is only when tory front benchers get held in police stations for 9 hours without charge that they get their knickers in twist. Or if Clarkson has been pulled over for speeding, or Tufton Bufton in the shires has had a few gin and tonics too many do they become uppity with the police.

Like everything else in tory world,, taxes, morality, laws, and the police are only for the little people.

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Sunny, come on. The Jody’s shoulders obviously attacked the policemen’s hands and then proceeded to attack the pavement.

This brings me back to April 2009 and the days of self-professed libertarian right wing nuts arguing the toss to the point that they almost believed Ian Tomlinson’s legs had attacked police batons. When it comes to the police a worrying proportion of the British population would defend the indefensible. Anything.

These same clowns who were so quick to slag off Labour whenever anything remotely non-liberal was done/said, are quite happy to live in a society where armed policemen employed by the state can pull a disabled bloke posing no threat out of a wheelchair and drag him around.

Be ashamed, cjcjcj.

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49. Chaise Guevara

@ 49

“Not really. Brownshirts like you (national socialists, natch) LOVE it when police get brutal – in fact it gets even more of you out onto the streets.”

OMG, are you saying that socialists protest when the police use violence? Those eeevil reds!

BTW: look up Godwin’s Law.

“20yr old Jody has cerebral palsy and went to the demo on a wheelchair. He was twice dragged out of his wheelchair by police officers.”

Well seeing that the intelligence of the average Metropolitan Plod is falling as fast as the Lie Dem poll numbers, they probably thought he was taking the piss out of them.

And in plod world taking the piss out of them always warrants head in contact with concrete. And what do they have to fear? They never get held responsible for their thuggery. No court will ever convict them, the jury’s are filled with the Teds and cjcjcjs of this world.

That is a licence to beat the crap out of people.

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Lee,

Sorry – facism was influenced by socialism, hence national socialism. The major change was the focus was on the nation not the workers, but extremist socialism (e.g. Stalinism) is pretty undifferentiatable from facism except in the nature of the justifications for their excesses.

Which, to be fair, is not to say all socialists are akin to facists – but the key differentiation has to be a respect for democracy and the rule of law, and sally’s moronic chanting of dogma and calls for violence is hardly indicative of that.

At the risk of being highly unpopular, can I suggest an alternative reading of the ‘evidence’ (being one video clip).

This is policemen ask a man in a wheelchair to move out of a road he is blocking. He refuses, so using the normal technique of lifting someone under their arms he is removed from the road by the police.

I am no more inclined to believe the obviously politicised Mr McIntyre than I am the Metropolitan Police in this. What I would say is that it took me one viewing to see an alternative possibility of what happened, so do not try and put too much political capital on this incident. If it does turn out Mr McIntyre was engaging in disorder (e.g. blocking a road) then the police have to move him, and if he has the right to protest equally (which he does) he should be treated equally. There is a danger of reading this video in the way you want to do and looking foolish when it comes out that you have been fooled/niave or whatever (the same applies if you support my alternative reading). Best to withhold judgement – its not as if you have plentiful collaborating evidence presented here.

Jody McIntyre wrote,

Somehow, me and Finlay managed to weave our way through the police line. We found ourselves in a large no-mans-land, in between the riot police trying to stop the crowd, and the police horses getting ready to charge. I turned in my wheelchair to face the police. “Move out of the way!” one of the mounted police shouted at me. I shook my head.

From the corner of my eye, I spotted one of the policemen from the earlier incident. He recognised me immediately. Officer KF936 came charging towards me. Tipping the wheelchair to the side, he pushed me onto the concrete, before grabbing my arms and dragging me across the road. The crowd of 200 ran and surrounded him. I got back up and stood in front of the horses.

@54/55 – getting more interesting

I share your outrage at Jody’s treatment by the police. I support him but I disagree with his cause. I deplore the conduct of both the violent protestors and the violent police. The police bear a heavy responsibility for their incompetent management of the event

However, it was the BBC interviewer’s job to challenge Jody’s account which he did reasonably and without patronising him (which would have been an easy mistake to make).

I thought Bill Turnbull did try to bully Jody on BBC Breakfast this morning and I have made a complaint.

The BBC is not perfect but it is the ONLY news outlet that is required to provide balanced coverage and you can complain about anything you disagree with. NO OTHER NEWS OUTLET provides such a complaints procedure and they’ll just laugh in your face if you talk about balance.

The BBC is a national treasure which we must preserve.

As for the appalling scenes of violence, if the police get their way it’s going to get worse:

http://peterreynolds.wordpress.com/2010/12/11/vile-police-website-reveals-violent-conspiracy/

“At the risk of being highly unpopular, can I suggest an alternative reading of the ‘evidence’ (being one video clip).”

What is new?

You are always doing your good little Tory routine which always sees you pretending to be balanced, but all the time pushing the tory line.

Nothing to see here, look over there, a Royal wedding.

That BBC presenter is a patronising shit.

Peter Reynolds,

As for the appalling scenes of violence, if the police get their way it’s going to get worse:

http://peterreynolds.wordpress.com/2010/12/11/vile-police-website-reveals-violent-conspiracy/

Oh for god’s sake, all they are doing is letting off steam and having a bit of a joke, whereas you yourself say that “there was extreme violence against the police” in reality not just words on a website.

Great piece Sunny

I blogged on this interview, with very little comment simply because I felt that Jody McIntyre spoke up for himself in such a dignified way that I could not add to it. I did give the link for complaints and found this a better one, Jim:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/homepage/

because the ‘form’ one wasn’t quite so user friendly for me. However as long as all of us who comment here and elsewhere complain to the BBC and encourage others to do the same thing by whatever link perhaps the Beeb will get the message and realise we no longer believe that they are an impartial organisation.

sally,

What is new?

You are always doing your good little Tory routine which always sees you pretending to be balanced, but all the time pushing the tory line.

Nothing to see here, look over there, a Royal wedding.

Nice to see you think my routine is good. Always appreciate positive feedback.

Of course, if you read to the end of my post you might notice I suggested not believing anyone, but being careful about hanging your colours to this too quickly.

And to be frank with you, I couldn’t care less about a royal wedding. Unless the queen dies in the next four months, its not even the heir to the throne getting married, so is hardly worth all the fuss. But then again, its far more fun for you to sit in your (alchohol-fuelled?) echo chamber and hear what you want to hear than for you to actually try and gauge that it is possible to be neither for you or for them, but rather trying to make sense of things. It is sad how much hate you project and how blindly you throw it round.

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@Peter Reynolds (57)

However, it was the BBC interviewer’s job to challenge Jody’s account which he did reasonably and without patronising him (which would have been an easy mistake to make).

I would argue that the interviewers line of inquiry went well beyond his remit to challenge Jody’s account. The interviewer alluded to a rather improbable (and likely fictitious) wheelchair charge by Jody, and cast aspersions on Jody’s character based purely on the politicised content of his blog. I don’t know from whence the interviewer plucked his numerous fairy tale scenarios, which would conveniently mitigate the alleged police action, but discrediting a person purely on the basis of leftist leanings and an advocacy of direct action are the actions of a propagandist and not an unbiased media!

Also, on the matter of balance in the BBC’s reporting. The hallmark of good journalism should be a lack of bias, not balance. A recent lecture given by Prof. Brian Cox discredited the BBC’s pursuit of balance at all costs rather more succinctly than I ever could, but sufficed to say it can lead to the extremes of the mainstream political spectrum attempting to maneuvre the centre ground closer to their view point (e.g. intelligent design as a ‘compromise’ between creationism and evolution). I am also sorry to say this, but the BBC hasn’t been an impartial or even worthy centre of journalism in a long while. It has been cow towed to the authorities too many times, and short of some rather substantive changes (e.g. removal of direct government discretion where the royal charter and license fee are concerned) I can’t see things changing much in the near future.

68. Margin4error

I actually am more afronted by the BBC interview than the incident itself. It is hard to make much out on the video, but it looks like one copper for whatever reason went way over the top, and two others rightly dragged him away.

The police are falible and some of them will be bad people. But the trouble isn’t that so much as the lack of accountability, deference and conspiracy that allows those bad coppers and general falibility to go unchallenged.

So to see the BBC challenging a victim of such an incident over whether he verbally provoked the copper and so deserved the assault, while more widely not challenging the police on their actions in any meaningful way, is a shocking contribution from the bastion of all things even-handed…

I see the head of the Met has given a press conference where he did not have the decency to talk about Alfie. Instead he droned on in the usual police propaganda designed to effect the people who might one day sit on a jury. Not that he needs to worry if it is cjcjc or Watchman.

But of course in tory world trying to prejudice a jury is fine as long as it is done by the police.

Since when is being a revolutionary a crime? I’m sure the right sees the neoliberal “revolution” a good thing…

@James Mills (63)

So who’s being irresponsible now? It’s clear this deluded young man was trying to use himself as a human missile, hoping to hurt himself suicide-bomber-style so it would cause maximum PR headache for the police. After getting “beaten up” he goes back there and stands in front of horses. No, of course he isn’t asking for it at all.

Rather like the much applauded Tienanmen Square ‘Tank Man’ don’t you think? It is rather telling how such actions can be applauded when they are taken in defiances of the much hated ‘Communists’ but when they are taken in defiance of our own neo-liberal governments destructive actions they are decried; at least by right-wing nuggets such as yourself James.

Of course I thoroughly expect you to condemn tank man also, but we both know that had I not highlighted this hypocrisy you’d be hailing him a hero for his defiance of those filthy ‘lefties’.

Purely out of interest, what do Sunny and the boys suggest that the correct police response should be? A pretty minimal police response was tried for the first demonstration (no kettling, no horses) and rather than peacefully dispersing (as people are suggesting would happen in the absence of kettling) a group occupied Tory headquarters and caused considerable damage. Given that the focus for the recent demonstration was Parliament Square, I assume even Sunny doesn’t believe that the demonstrators should just have been allowed to enter the Houses of Parliament? Some form of police response was necessary – even with the considerable presence that there was there were attempts to invade the Treasury, and the Supreme Court.

If some form of police response/crowd control was required, what would have been appropriate? It does rather seem that any action by the police is going to be condemned here.

@71 – brilliant – beyond parody

71 – if defiance in the face of the state is an unalloyed good thing, to be applauded whether the state in question is totalitarian or democratic, I look forward to your stirring defence of Eugene Terreblanche and his heroic opposition to the ANC Government of South Africa.

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FWIW the Mail has covered this with a sympathetic tilt towards Mr McIntyre.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1338480/Jody-McIntyre-Video-police-tipping-wheelchair-tuition-fees-protest.html

Though Richard Littlejohn has a slightly different and not altogether humourless take on it.

“Mcintyre put himself on offer and his brother pushed him into the front line. It’s not as if he didn’t know there was going to be trouble.
He was also at the last student demo in London and persuaded friends to hoist him on to the roof of the Millbank Tower. If his brakes had failed and he’d gone over the edge, who would he have blamed then?
Jody Mcintyre is like Andy from Little Britain.
‘Where do you want to go today, Jody?’
‘Riot.’
‘Are you sure? Wouldn’t you rather go to hear Bob Crow speak at the Methodist Central Hall. You like Bob Crow.’
‘Yeah, I know.’
‘So, we’ll go there, eh?’
‘Riot!’
‘Ken Livingstone will be there, too. He’s your favourite.’
‘Riot!’
‘All right, then.’
Five minutes later at the riot . . .
‘Don’t like it.’”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/columnists/article-1338336/Stockholm-suicide-bomber-Why-Luton-training-ground.html

sally,

I did not say you were good. I said you do your good tory routine.

Very different.

Thankyou. Not only good (and you say so again, after denying it. It must really have moved you) but very different as well. I’ve not had such good reviews for ages. Might have to put you on the billboards at this rate.

72 Tim

It’s an unexceptional point to make that the first demonstration and attack on the Tory office caught the Police on the hop: no doubt they will have their own investigation into why they were caught off guard. I haven’t heard anyone arguing that no police response was necessary, the issue is whether the police response is proportionate.

Pointing out inter alia that: their reponse has NOT always been proportionate, that kettling is not always a great method of crowd control, that there appear to be some police officers who have (to say the least) over-reacted, does not mean that my concerns (or presumably those of “Sunny and the boys”) can simply be written off as the over-reaction of bleeding heart liberals who “have it in for” our brave bobbies on the beat.

If you can honestly say you have no qualms about general police strategy, or the tactics used recently, then you either haven’t been paying attention, or are simply blinded by your ideological prejudices.

@Watchman (53)

Sorry – facism was influenced by socialism, hence national socialism

How so? The only similarity to genuine socialism that I can see are its Keynesian economic policies. Which served merely as a means to the re-militarisation of Germany (as opposed to full employment). The core sentiments of socialism simply weren’t present, and the origins of the term national socialism can at most be attributed to a cynical public relations ploy like many of their policies! Their vitriolic hatred of German socialists and communists attests to this, surely?

The major change was the focus was on the nation not the workers…

That is indeed what differentiates socialism (and communism for that matter) from fascism and its cousin totalitarianism.

but extremist socialism (e.g. Stalinism) is pretty undifferentiatable from facism except in the nature of the justifications for their excesses.

Quite correct, but seeing as Stalinist ideology establishes the party elite/vanguard and places the good of the party (i.e. the state) ahead of that of the people, that is more a justification for discounting Stalinism (and its forbearer Leninism) as a genuine socialist/communist current than it is an argument for classifying national sociaism as a bone fide branch of socialism.

It is for this reason that the term totalitarian was created, to differentiate such extreme forms of ‘communism’ from more moderate forms such as council communism and libertarian communism.

Which, to be fair, is not to say all socialists are akin to facists…

Most certainly not! In fact the moment a self-described socialist begins to resemble a fascist, I’d argue they’ve for-fitted their socialist credentials.

but the key differentiation has to be a respect for democracy and the rule of law

I’m certainly with you on the prior; Marx’s now iconic reference to the dictatorship of the proletariat described democracy in it’s purest form in my opinion. So any socialist worth his/her salt is a lover of true and legitimate democracy.

I’m not with on the latter however. In an ideal world the law should mirror ethics as close as is practicable, but todays laws fall far short of this ideal. The only loyalty any socialist, communist or humanist should have is to his/her own ethics, and if the law falls short of this it needs changing (in other words, screw the law!).

sally’s moronic chanting of dogma and calls for violence is hardly indicative of that.

I don’t don’t know where sally lays on the political spectrum, but if your representations of her are accurate it is far, far away from where I lay. I try not to call for the shrunken heads and/or disembodies scalps of my political contraries, no matter how much I may disagree with them. 😉

78 – No, I’m not saying that I’m unconcerned by the police response. What I’m saying is that I’d be interested to see some sort of suggestion on what the police should be doing instead. If the police aren’t simply to leave the riot to look after itself, they have to do something. What?

@James Mills (75)

Lee, congrats on learning to use HTML, did you learn that whilst studying BSc Revolutionary Internet Skills?

Well I’m sorry James if my use of HTML formatting offends you, but I prefer to emphasis names in bold and important words in italics. Clearly this makes me the living incarnation of Satan himself in your eyes.

I’m sorry, but you’ve just made yourself look like a massive twat by comparing the rampaging hordes last Thursday to Tiannenman Square.

Firstly, you have rather ironically made yourself look a massive twat through your liberal use of the word twat. Secondly, I was not comparing the protests on Thursday to Tienanmen Square in terms of their context, but rather in terms of the use of tactics. Ultimately it is up to the individual protester(s) to decide how important a particular issue is to them and act accordingly. Thus, if the tactic is valid when used against an oppressive totalitarian regime it is equally valid when used against a comparatively moderate democratic regime. That isn’t to say that the underlying issues and motivations are necessarily valid, that determination is an entirely subjective concern.

…noble as middle class trustafarians protesting their right to get binmen, dinner ladies and social workers to pay for them to sit around for three years smoking weed!

Yes, because everyone out there was an upper-middle class trust fund child! And of course none of them will be subsidising that refuse workers healthcare, that dinner lady’s child’s primary and secondary education and that social workers benefits when (s)he is made redundant in the next round of cuts!

You really are a **** James and I see little reason to respond to you any further (or even read the vitriolic dribble that spills onto your keyboard).

Lee,

Facism was not a German invention, but rather an Italian one, and it is there that the strong state control so typical of mid-twentieth century socialism (I am happy to admit modern socialism has evolved, and that there were other strains of socialism also at the time) was put in place. Most famously perhaps in getting the trains running on time.

As to hatred of socialists showing that someone could not be socialist, can I refer you the Life of Brian, and the People’s Front for the Liberation of Judea’s relationship with other similiar groups? You may find that is based on real struggles between socialists who clearly hated each other, and judging by what happened in countries that underwent revolutions, were as concerned with liquidating alternative forms of socialism as they were with right-wing ideologies.

I think you are wrong to equate totalitarianism with facism. It applies equally to every communist government that has existed on this planet other than as a facet of a democracy (since communist parties generally ban all other parties as threats to the supremacy of the proletariat, communist government has generally meant the end of democracy), for it refers simply to government by one group or person with total power. If the party is the state (communism) then that party has total power. Totalitarianism is not to be limited to facism or nationalistic governments or military strongmen (some of whom are left-wing anyway) but covers all non-democratic regimes.

As to the rule of law, law should be changable (that is the point of a democracy after all) but not on personal whim – if you disagree with law as the established will of the people then surely you are setting yourself above the democratic will. Obviously I make exceptions for oppression (law using violence if you want) but if you do not respect the rule of law, how do you respect democracy which is governed by the same rule of law?

Overall though, I think we may well be closer to each other than we are to the idiots and the facists, the Stalinists and the Maoists, the strongmen and the warlords. After all, we both believe in democracy and it is only the relatively minor point about what we want it to do that causes disagreement.

Comments by and referring to ‘James mills’ (who was imitating someone else) have been deleted, as has some of the petty bickering. Read the fucking comments policy.

That was a great interview, Jody – you got some very powerful points across (despite rather than because of the BBC interviewer)

Girl’s name. Deserved it. End.

I somewhat agree with #9.

Yesterday I saw several people retweet jody appealing for anyone with footage of the incident to contact him. Not for the ipcc, but because the BBC are interested.

Surely an ipcc investigation would/should be more important than the media?

Thank you – I’m glad that it’s not just me who can’t read or see some fo this stuff without four-letter-words and you’ve encapsulated a lot of stuff more articulately than I have.

No matter what a disabled person has done, might have done, is about to do, it is *never* (extremely unlikely to be) acceptable to deprived them of access to their mobility aid or assistive technology.

As a disabled person I know my rights to my assistive equipment suddenly become “privileges” or “special treatment” or “unreasonable demands” when it doesn’t suit society and individuals within that society.

I cannot think of anything Jody McIntyre could have done which would have justified the police removing him from his wheelchair. And they didn’t just remove him, they dragged him with excessive force. Jody is right though, he shouldn’t be treated any differently from anyone else yet on both sides the pro/anti sides he is.

The pro side want to label him “poor Jody” and the anti side want to label him an “aggressive rebel”. The reality is he was no physical threat to the police, but he was absolutely a threat to their status quo thinking and excersing his right to non violent protest.

@Watchman (82)

Other than the economically centralising tendencies of those particular currents of socialism and communism, they share little in common with the spirit of genuine socialism. Thus I tend to question their socialist/communist credentials.

For example, the Leninist precept of the revolutionary vanguard and the resulting party elite gave enormous amounts of power and wealth to a relative minority. To the extreme that many of the party elite, self-described champions of the proletariat, had come to resemble the very aristocrats whose rule they had helped overthrow. This was a chief complaint of the Kronstadt rebels whose commanding officer had appropriated many of the trappings of aristocracy (his wife reportedly wore jewellery which once belong to one or more of the grand duchesses).

The fact that Leninism, the mother ideology of all of the self-described communist regimes heretofore existent, resulting in clearly elitist and undemocratic symptoms is, at the very least an indictment of the leaders of these regimes if not the entire ideology (which remember relied on a elite vanguard of professional revolutionaries). It is not uncommon for revolutions to be co-opted by contrasting forces, a classic example being the co-option of the French republican revolution to give form to the 1st French Empire under Emperor Napoleon I.

I’ve always taken the view that Marx’s dictatorship of the proletariat is analogous and not contradictory of democracy. Any system that professes to be communist, yet belies democracy is thus not in my opinion genuinely communist. In the broadest interpretation of the term proletariat, the proletariat can be described as the majority of economically productive citizens; which encompasses the vast majority of todays population. In contrast the bourgeoisie can be described as the minority of unproductive and often parasitic citizens; todays idle rich. Also interpreting the term dictatorship in its modern context would be a mistake. Based on the above definitions a dictatorship of the proletariat could just as easily take the form of a representative or direct democracy (an essentially majoritarian form of governance) as it could a literal dictatorship guided by the hand(s) of a singular dictator and/or elite. In fact the prior (i.e. democratic) interpretation seems to me to be the more appropriate interpretation, and the demands of the rebels at Krondstadt would seem to suggest that this was at least held to be true by some of Lenin’s contemporaries (It is a crying shame that the rebellion ultimately failed).

I do suspect that you and I share many of the same views of the so called ‘communists’ of yesteryear. As someone who favours the more libertarian/anarchist currents within socialism/communism I have a strong disdain for the regimes of Soviet Russia and China. I also despair of the chronic misrepresentation of them as communist; communism aims to liberate those who are economically productive, not oppress them as the aforementioned regimes did.

“As to the rule of law, law should be changable (that is the point of a democracy after all) but not on personal whim – if you disagree with law as the established will of the people then surely you are setting yourself above the democratic will. Obviously I make exceptions for oppression (law using violence if you want) but if you do not respect the rule of law, how do you respect democracy which is governed by the same rule of law?”

Certainly the law should be changeable; both to allow adaptation to a changing environment and to allow for a closer approximation what is ethical. I suspect that for the majority of the population, what is regarded as ethical will largely be commonly held. However, one of the less palatable aspects of a democracy, and in particular a representative democracy (as opposed to a direct or consensus democracy) is that it does not necessarily entire the will of the majority of the people being forced upon the minority. Rather it entails the will of a minority, either in the form of the tiny minority of legislators (the Westminster elite if you will) or the significant minority of electors who support the ruling party (it’s rare in the UK for a government to have anywhere near majority public support), being thrust down the throats of the majority. Thus I’m uneasy with (a) strict and blind obedience to the rule of law and (b) the assumption that the law, as it presently stands, is ethical. For example any attempt to legislate on matters relating to the right to stike are in my view illegitimate, not merely because such attempts belie the very notion of strike action (it’s an act of civil disobedience after all!) but also because there are no sound ethical grounds for such draconian legislation (the right to strike lays far outside of the remit of any government).

To my mind ethics, having been arrived at through reasoned thought; trumps the law, having been arrived at by a series of vested interests.

Most famously perhaps in getting the trains running on time

Actually this was originally perpetuated as propaganda on behalf of the Italian fascists. The majority of the improvements made to the Italian transport network, which was in a state of disrepair following the great ware, were made prior to the fascists rise to power. In fact, the only train whose punctuality could be genuinely attributed to the fascists was the one transporting Mussolini from his retreat (he hid during the famed march on Rome) to Rome to accept King Victor’s offer to form a government. Other than that, the myth of fascist efficiency is just that, a myth!

Kind Regards,

Lee.

Simon H

Perhaps the BBC had asked him? If so it would seem fairly reasonable.

The stuff about “using a disabled man” is patronising rubbish. The police need to work more closely with demonstrators to ensure the right to protest exists in practice and not just theory, and this kind of intimidation and baiting is put a stop to.

@54 Watchman

You ask, “This is policemen ask a man in a wheelchair to move out of a road he is blocking. He refuses, so using the normal technique of lifting someone under their arms he is removed from the road by the police”

He’s got wheels. They could have pushed him, don’t you think? You do yourself no credit by your argument.

91. Chaise Guevara

@ 90

Agreed. One side assaulted someone, but if the other side complain they’re “using” him (the fact that one of the people complaining is McIntyre himself apparently doesn’t factor). I think the finger of blame is being pointed 180 degrees from the correct direction.

“To my mind ethics, having been arrived at through reasoned thought; trumps the law”

Those ethics of which you approve, no doubt.

“the fact that one of the people complaining is McIntyre himself apparently doesn’t factor”

Has he made that official complaint yet?

Fascinating how the so called libertarians defend state violence.

Just confirms my belief that all libertarians are fake.

It’s time a few of the more regular trolls on this site joined blanco. They contribute nothing but snidery.

96. connor cruise o brian

Ben Brown : I WATCHED YOU breathlessly ‘reporting’ from wtihin the protest. To my mind you were kinda excited. You were speaking in ways to indicate that there’s goona be trouble. That the protest as whole were intent on violence. I wtahced you for three hours.

Everytime you did a vox pop and were speaking to students and others who made intelligent, cogent and evidence based comments, your producer told you to move on….

I watched you as your camera man filmed masked youths smashing concrete blocks – but you had not the courage or maturity to approcah them and ask them to stop, ask them what did they think they were doing?

I saw no footage of those same youths chucking those rocks……. have the BBC got any such footage? If you do why have you not screened them? If you don’t is it because it didn’t happen?

YOU ARE AN AGENT PROVOCATEUR.

Your interviewing ‘techinque’ (interrogation) as you spoke to Jody bears this out.

You are, like many others, intent on PROVOKING rather than ENQUIRING.

You probably cannot sense any of this, because your own linited perspective is tied in with Power. You do not serve the public. Neither does the BBC. YOU SERVE POWER.

You outed yourself, m8!

97. connor cruise o brian

Abusers ALWAYS blame their victims, as the first line of defence.

“Look at what you MADE ME DO!”

Then, when that fails they say “Well, I was only doing my job – it was for your own good”

THERE IS NO REASONABLE DEFENCE FOR WHAT THE POLICE DID TO JODY. NONE.

THERE IS NO REASONABLE DEFENCE FOR THE WAY BEN BROWN INTERROGATED JODY.

The rich, who concentrate wealth, which creates poverty, always blame the poor for being poor. And the apologists for such wealth follow the line.

Abusers blaming the victims.

@89

Dan, have issue if this was done before handing to the ipcc.

I think both sides are trying to play the media. The issue is the media changes allegiance in a whim.

Had jody been on the news on Friday or Saturday, I think the interview would have been different and more powerful. By Monday all the media and people around the world see are unruly thugs trashing London. The reason why and underlying cause has been brushed aside.

Had student protesters simply sat, arms linked, chanting it in silence, the public would be firmly behind the students and MPs would really be feeling the heat. Especially if the police had removed these sitting protesters (like greenham common)

Last post should say chanting OR in silence.

@97

If this post by Guido is true then you might like to reconsider who needs an excuse for their behaviour?

http://order-order.com/2010/12/14/wheels-come-off-protesters-complaint/

Simon H – Yep

It would have been good if they had been able to do that. I hope the media would have covered it properly. As we know things kicked off when a lot of the students wanted to protest in Parliament Sq. I think I can understand them wanting to do that rather than be relegated to the banks of the Thames.

Personally I would like to see demos outside the meeting places of some anarchist groups who don’t have the mandate to hijack every single one of these protests and increase the chances of a flashpoint x10. If they have the numbers to generate their own protest, fine, but otherwise leave off. That kind of clarity (and given 24 hour news the BBC could go into so much more detail on this might solve half the problems.

Or if that’s not possible, what you say is very relevant. The police, demonstrators and media have a responsibilty to ensure this right is preserved and this situation is improved. Oh and the government, with all it’s expertise and resources. But it does seem to be a case of playing the media and going on in the same old way.

Interesting. Not how I read it at all. I thought the presenter was asking clear and robust questions which set Jody up to give clear precise answers. Could he have thrown anything at the Police? No. etc.

This all helps destroy ideas right wing people put across. Imagine the complaints from the right if Dan hadn’t questioned him like this.

I thought the BBC guy was doing this on purpose to present who Jody was and what someone with cerebral palsy could be in terms of a revolutionary.

I don’t know this journalist but I honestly thought its strange to think otherwise.

@100 I like the comments on that Guido link cheers. The question remains how much danger does Jody pose in terms of risk assessment? Even if he says he wants to kill you there is no need to drag him out of his wheel chair to discuss this with him its there.

I’ll address my points to Sunny.

The first video shows police treatment of Jody McIntyre that I cannot understand. Jody can demonstrate a complaint that needs to be answered. On that evidence, I wish him well.

I do not understand why the BBC interview is under scrutiny. The interviewer asks hard questions about what happened. Was JM a provocateur? JM politely responds that the idea is ridiculous. The interviewer at no time questions whether JM was violently pulled out of his chair.

The questions are akin to those that would be asked in a court of law. A defence barrister would be most likely ask a defendant in a wheel chair whether s/he had been throwing rocks — a ludicrous suggestion in this case, but a question that needs to be asked to demonstrate the stupidity of the concept. Similar questions were asked several times and were rebutted.

Jody provided a good case for himself (he acknowledged receiving legal advice) and defended well against all of the argumentative punches (possibly softer ones than he will face in the future). The BBC did not treat him injudiciously — intercut with his words was video of his ill treatment.

Does Jody have a lawyers fund?

@ 100,

Not really. The two incidents are distinct.

It is obvious from some other photographs that Jody McIntyre can stand up. Possibly even walk. But the extent to which he can walk or stand has become an issue for right wing commentators.

Frail old people too can be encouraged to stand, or even walk, or even climb stairs for a time. It doesn’t mean that they can keep it up. Indeed, they usually collapse back into a wheelchair after the effort.

Or perhaps ‘lift that bar, tote that bale’ is what certain folk would have us believe these people are capable of?

How long had kettling been going on when he was assaulted? How tired would he have been?

It is this nonsensical idea that someone who managed, after who knows how long, to climb a building is therefor a liar, that makes me think sally has you all bang to rights….

Interesting link 102.

The more I read jody’s blog and see the pics & vids regarding jody’s removal from his chair, the mire uncomfortable with protesters championing him.

As the saying goes, if you dance with the devil…..

Simon H,

You are the devil!

It’s just mindless violence once again the police can’t get there own way so they spit there dummy instead of assaulting innocent people try bringing the crime rate down and actually arrest the murder’s and rapists.I worked along side the police in Northern Ireland they were as pathetic there as they are showing to be in this country.They do nothing except add fuel to the fire and for them using water cannon’s they wont it would cost them to much in training because the water cannon can be more lethal than shooting at somebody.

110. Chaise Guevara

@ 102 UKliberty

“An alternative view.”

We’ve had that one a couple of times already, either here or on the Littlejohn thread. It doesn’t seem to shed much light on the situation or back up either side to any real extent.

Chaise,

We’ve had that one a couple of times already, either here or on the Littlejohn thread. It doesn’t seem to shed much light on the situation or back up either side to any real extent.

There’s a lot of heat but little light.

McIntyre was asked to move. He refused. He says so himself. He was then moved. Nothing wrong so far.

Now, the method of movement may have been disproportionate, not enough info to tell. The individual officer isn’t allowed to talk about his side. Isn’t it interesting how so many are quick to damn him? All the talk about presumption of innocence yet when it’s the police some people presume guilt.

To me it’s not about sides. Sunny is more interested in ‘the narrative’ (in this case the protesters are the goodies and the police the baddies) than the truth. I don’t think the narrative is particularly helpful to anyone. I’d go so far as to say it’s counterproductive.

(My guess is that the officer screwed up in this case and may have used disproportionate force. But that’s pure speculation, I have no evidence at all.)

@watchman explain the term ‘blocking’ please..it reminds me of that excuse about disabled people in wheelchairs not being admitted to public places as represent a ‘fire risk’ by the very nature of their disability and needing a wheelchair for mobility they are seen as a ‘thing’ rather like a dumped vehicle and not a person…

blocking what may i ask? the air flowing down the street?

ok on slightly different tack here…just because he’s in wheelchair and got palsy doesnt mean he cant be dangerous (i paraphrase) well i cant remember the last time i was mugged by a cerebral palsy disabled person in a wheelchair…

can an abled bodied person standing upright be accused of ‘blocking’ ?? blocking what??


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    RT @libcon: How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/ihjsI2

  49. Alun Evans

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  50. The Daily Heil

    RT @libcon: How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/ihjsI2

  51. Kellie Turtle

    RT @libcon: How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/ihjsI2

  52. Christine Burns

    Liberal Conspiracy: How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/dRikpC

  53. Paul Wood

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  54. Top Politics Tweets

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  55. ray campbell

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  56. Ellie Mae

    RT @libcon: How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/ihjsI2

  57. Chris Boyd

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  58. Kate B

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  59. Jill Goble

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  60. StarSparkle

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  61. Gi Joe

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  62. simon wilkinson

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  63. Allan Siegel

    How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre | Liberal Conspiracy http://t.co/TxjKK5V

  64. Ray Thomas

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  65. Alice Sheppard

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  67. Laurie

    RT @libcon: How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/ihjsI2

  68. Rachel

    How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre | Liberal Conspiracy http://t.co/DpBAuoW via @libcon

  69. Aaron Gillies

    RT @missellabell: http://t.co/ItLO3Yx This is fucking horrible. The Humiliation of Jody McIntyre.

  70. Rachael Duthie

    RT @TechnicallyRon: RT @missellabell: http://t.co/ItLO3Yx This is fucking horrible. The Humiliation of Jody McIntyre.

  71. Alex J. Thomas

    How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre | Liberal Conspiracy http://t.co/zgwIxyh via @libcon #fb

  72. Minu Ferdows

    RT @AlexJThomas: How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre | Liberal Conspiracy http://t.co/zgwIxyh via @libcon #fb

  73. Gaz Lizard

    RT @alexjthomas: How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre | Liberal Conspiracy http://t.co/zgwIxyh via @libcon

  74. Tom Blenkinsop

    http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/14/how-jody-mcintyre-was-humiliated-first-by-the-police-and-then-the-bbc/

  75. Rosie

    How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre | Liberal Conspiracy http://t.co/PuJSbHE via @libcon

  76. Mark Edward Lewis

    How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre | Liberal Conspiracy http://t.co/iPu52sS via @libcon

  77. Dee Zee

    Police couldn't go for those making problems, so they took on a guy in a wheelchair definitely #wrong http://tinyurl.com/2cf4db2

  78. .

    RT @libcon: How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/ihjsI2

  79. Ben Sellers

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  80. Annie B

    RT @MrBenSellers: How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre | Liberal Conspiracy http://t.co/KTiCDHH via @libcon

  81. Steven Goldswain

    RT @TomBlenkinsop: http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/14/how-jody-mcintyre-was-humiliated-first-by-the-police-and-then-the-bbc/

  82. rb

    How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre: The story of Jody McIntyre has been referred t… http://bit.ly/ecLVgo

  83. Press Not Sorry

    RT @libcon: How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/ihjsI2

  84. Zoezog

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  85. Andy Bean

    RT @libcon: How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/ihjsI2

  86. sunny hundal

    How the police and then the BBC (presenter) tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/ihjsI2 (from earlier)

  87. Natacha Kennedy

    RT @sunny_hundal: How the police and then the BBC (presenter) tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/ihjsI2 (from earlier)

  88. Susan Thorne

    RT @sunny_hundal: How the police and then the BBC (presenter) tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/ihjsI2 (from earlier)

  89. Paul Burgin

    RT @sunny_hundal: How the police and then the BBC (presenter) tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/ihjsI2 (from earlier)

  90. Paddy Eden

    RT @sunny_hundal: How the police and then the BBC (presenter) tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/ihjsI2 (from earlier)

  91. Julian Ware-Lane

    RT @sunny_hundal: How the police and then the BBC (presenter) tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/ihjsI2 (from earlier)

  92. Kath Howard

    How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre | Liberal Conspiracy: http://bit.ly/frBXeT via @addthis

  93. Mark Turner

    RT @sunny_hundal: How the police and then the BBC (presenter) tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/ihjsI2 (from earlier)

  94. Rani Kaur

    RT @sunny_hundal: How the police and then the BBC (presenter) tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/ihjsI2 (from earlier)

  95. Lisa E

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  96. gwyn bailey

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  97. Andrew Burgess

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  98. Brian Bailey

    RT @sunny_hundal: How the police and then the BBC (presenter) tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/ihjsI2 (from earlier)

  99. Jon Harvey

    How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre | Liberal Conspiracy http://t.co/WBwAltW via @libcon

  100. Patricia Saragih

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  101. Mark Martin

    RT @sunny_hundal: How the police and then the BBC (presenter) tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/ihjsI2 (from earlier)

  102. Syed Choudhury

    RT @sunny_hundal How the police and then the BBC (presenter) tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/ihjsI2 (from earlier)

  103. Nick H.

    RT @sunny_hundal: How the police and then the BBC (presenter) tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/ihjsI2 (from earlier)

  104. thejudgemuffin

    RT @sunny_hundal: How the police and then the BBC (presenter) tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/ihjsI2 (from earlier)

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  106. Elinor Predota

    RT @christineburns: Liberal Conspiracy: How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/dRikpC

  107. sunny hundal

    @mattleys Some of the points were very absurd though.I summarise them here: http://bit.ly/ihjsI2

  108. Senior Welsh Tory David Davies’ Right Wing Fetishes » Ten Percent

    […] when the cops were dragging Jody McIntyre out of his wheelchair, not once but twice, Davey boy must have been cheering the poor oppressed thin blue line (careful […]

  109. Clarebella

    How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre | Liberal Conspiracy http://t.co/p1WE1EO via @libcon

  110. Mark Wu

    Tuition Fees protest "How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre" http://ow.ly/3pipT How can the police justify this?

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  112. Richard

    How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre (but I think Jody owned that twat of an interviewer) http://is.gd/iMpTW

  113. Nsibai

    How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/eTy3AM

  114. San Sharma

    Just seen this, and it makes me feel a liiitle bit sick // How the police and the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre: http://bit.ly/hnuNN7

  115. Laura Jane Quick

    This makes me sick and ashamed to be British when the #police behave like this http://bit.ly/dRikpC #JodyMcIntyre

  116. Asif Mirza

    RT @sansharma: Just seen this, makes me feel a little bit sick // Police and the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre: http://bit.ly/hnuNN7

  117. Rohan Vanjara

    How the police and then the BBC tried to humiliate Jody McIntyre http://bit.ly/gePvDn

  118. Laura Jane Quick

    This makes me sick and ashamed to be British when the #police behave like this http://bit.ly/dRikpC #JodyMcIntyre #NoJustice #StudentProtest

  119. A News Tweeter

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  121. Jenna Appleseed

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  122. Colin Lyne

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