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Quotes from USA’s latest political star


10:30 am - September 16th 2010

by Sunny Hundal    


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Christine O’Donnell is the Republican party’s newest United States Senate nominee, as Tim Fenton has already pointed out.

But if you thought Sarah Palin was an extremist wingnut, then you ain’t seen nothing yet.

Even during the election, O’ Donnell’s campaign heavily implied that her opponent Mike Castle was having a gay affair.

In some of her earlier statements she:

» Spear-headed an anti-masturbation campaign on MTV’s ‘Sex In The 90s’.
“The Bible says that lust in your heart is committing adultery. You can’t masturbate without lust!”

» Said that including women in military colleges would damage national security

» Said AIDS gets too much government money, and condoms wouldn’t stop it
Referring to people who get AIDS as victims, O’Donnell said, was “the kind of spinning with words and manipulating words that empowers the bias when it comes to AIDS.”

» Is so fervently ‘pro-truth’ she wouldn’t lie to Nazis asking if she were hiding Jews in her home

» Is also not a big fan of evolution

But the biggest critic of O’Donnell? Karl Rove himself.

Not for her extreme views mind you, but for some financial irregularities.

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It is funny to laugh at these lunatics, but it is also scary.

She has raised the bar for wingnuttery, the US left might seek the return of Bob Dole

Very scary. Mad people in power! Will America wake up to the threat they pose or will the Homer Simpson’s of the world continue to find comfort in voting for people even more stupid than themselves?

The Right in America even have ideologues suggesting its good to have stupid people in power: http://therightfieldline.blogspot.com/2010/08/thomas-sowell-for-creating-truly.html

l like the bit were they are singing, she only raises her arms to the lord when her neighbour does and then they seem to be in competition with each other.

I think it’s hilarious myself, but then I’ve always been a huge fan of democracy. I strongly believe that, if people know what they want then they should get it, good and hard.

6. Cynical/Realist?

You can’t masturbate without lust.

After a lifetime of vigorous research I can confirm this is not true. A good slab of lust does help procedings along though.

And if lust is adulterous I’ve sinned three or four times just typing this out.

I do have issues though.

There are millions of fruitcakes like O’Donnell beneath the surface on the US Right. The Republicans thought they could manipulate the crazies like they’ve always manipulated them and when they had served their purpose put the crazies back in their cage. Palin taught them that stupidity need not be a hindrance and they ain’t going back in the cage.

What amuses me is the way these people bang on (so to speak) about how Big Government should get out of people’s lives whilst simultaneously demanding that government (presumably as they’re the ones with the power to enforce laws) should prevent people from using birth control, getting abortions, divorcing, having sex outside of marriage (well, maybe no-one’s actually suggested such a law in the US but who knows what the future may bring), and now, she’s suggesting that government should involve themselves with people’s private pleasures.

9. Guy Aitchison

Damn – the young Christine O’Donnell does look sexy in that video. Hm…

Let’s be fair though, quite a few of the people commenting here would do her, no doubt about that.

““The Bible says that lust in your heart is committing adultery. You can’t masturbate without lust!””

Brining attention to a point made by both John Paul II and Jimmy Carter is just so right wing, isn’t it?

@9 Thanks for proving my point dude 🙂

Oh my God! Someone has opinions that differ from mine! Shocking.

But, my love of evolution and masturbation aside, are you seriously telling me that someone that Karl Rove opposes is a bad thing (especially one who is clearly honest and truthful about her beliefs)? I would have thought that would be a huge plus point for most right-thinking people.

My enemy’s enemy… logical fallacy.

Rove is trying to damage her because he stands for the Republican establishment.

I swear to god something I thought this was satire. This the best the GOP has to offer? Bring on the lols!

just an FYI but today hateful slimeball Rove has slightly backtracked on his comments, see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-9eU6wdLIM

17. DisgustedOfTunbridgeWells

My particular favourite;

American scientific companies are cross-breeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/09/odonnell-in-2007-scientists-have-created-mice-with-human-brains.php?ref=fpa

@17

but that would be AWESOME to happen!

If she also believes that life begins when sperm is formed, and abortion is murder, then she’ll probably want every male above the age of 13 imprisoned for genocide. Which makes her the most radical feminist in US politics.

are you seriously telling me that someone that Karl Rove opposes is a bad thing?

If he opposes her because she’s too much of a hard-right mentalist even for him to stomach, then yes. A thousand times yes. That’s kinda like being too racist for the KKK.

@19 Maybe that’s why she’s against wanking, to stop the 300 million sperms dying and filling up heaven in a very strange way.

“The Bible says that lust in your heart is committing adultery. You can’t masturbate without lust!”

I can’t believe how many people are unable to actually think for themselves and have to let a two tousand year old book do it for them.

What’s the big deal on O’Donnells view on masturbation. It’s not like she’s going to be able to legislate the matter – I’m not sure even she would know how to enforce it.

On the other hand, In Los Angeles, they spent $111 million to “save or create” 55 jobs, over $2,000,000 per job. Seriously who’s the wackier, a person with a personal view that will never be legislated, or a President and political party which thinks that that is an appropriate or efficient way to spend taxpayers money?

or a President and political party which thinks that that is an appropriate or efficient way to spend taxpayers money?

Sorry, could you remind us once again who is the Governor of California…?

“Sorry, could you remind us once again who is the Governor of California…?”

Irrelevant. It’s Federal stimulus money being spent by the City of Los Angeles….responsibility of the Mayor actually who is, yes, a Democrat (also a man with a love life John Prescott would be jealous of).

Sunny

“Sorry, could you remind us once again who is the Governor of California…?”

What Tim says.

But in a lineage of a Democratic President, a Democratic House and Senate (who passed stimulus on almost completely partisan lines, a Californian democratic legislature and a Democratic Mayor of LA the best you can come up with is a very liberal Republican Governor.

OK. Well that’s a good way of obfuscating the central point of my comment – that the stimulus was an inefficient disaster.

Glad to see the tory trolls on here defending the latest American crazies. And it show us once again that the REAL tory party is full of these nuts, and given half a chance they would be in power here. Watchman (who claims he is not a tory) HA HA HA just can’t help himself in defending every right wing nut and loon that comes out of the wood work.

Please don’t lecture us about tax payers money. Have you not seen the famous “bridge to nowhere” ? All done by republican small govt nuts.

Sally

Cost of “Bridge To Nowhere” – $400 million

Cost Of Stimulus – Nearly $1 trillion

“Bridge To Nowhere” – Money not spent (thanks in part to Palin (eventually)

Stimulus Mney spent – all too much.

Thankyou for your balanced contribution.

And btw, the whole point of the Tea Party movement is to stop exactly this type of spending which is why they are as happy taking on Republicans as they are Democrats.

“Thankyou for your balanced contribution.”

What would you know about balance? Jack shit, that what.

“And btw, the whole point of the Tea Party movement is to stop exactly this type of spending which is why they are as happy taking on Republicans as they are Democrats.”

Except of course the Tea party is noting but a giant corporate bullshit effort paid for by large corporates and pushed by Fox and various corporate lobbyists to make it look like a grass root effort. Just like the scummy tax payers alliance here.

Palin ….. You mean the quitter who quit her job because she could not be bothered to see out her term in office, and will only go on Fox to answer questions because she can’t deal with tough questions.

And as for the stimulus…… it was not enough. God knows what state America would be in if there had been no stimulus or bank bailouts

At this point I think it’s good to remind everyone that the Tea Party movement is actually funded by billionaires [ http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer?currentPage=all ] and not a “grass-roots” movement by any means. It’s a coup d’état by a tiny group of fundamentalist extremists.

@23

Her views on wanking are a side issue as far as I’m concerned – it’s the stuff about wanting creationism taught alongside evolution, and her comments surrounding funding for treatment of AIDS, that is a whole lot more worrying. Or would be worrying if she wasn’t such a tit.

Mr S Pill

” It’s a coup d’état by a tiny group of fundamentalist extremists.”

So when an Obama movement is funded by billionaires, that’s a genuine movement for change, but when a Tea Party movement has outside funding it’s a coup d’etat? Interesting logic (obviously I’m assuming here you had no problem with Obama’s campaign).

If you are telling me that a granny from Michigan attends Glenn Beck rallies and tea-party protests because of Koch brother funding then you are living in a George Soros funded alternate reality. According to the left, it’s a bad thing for the Koch brothers to fund grass roots causes they believe in but the George Soros organisations of the left like Move On are legit grass roots movements.

All the funding in the world won’t get people on the streets protesting about what they believe in, the Koch argument is fairly meaningless.

Mr S Pill

She say’s that AIDS is funded disproportionately to other health problems like heart disease and whilst I don’t know whether that is true or not, it’s not an altogether legitimate argument. Additionally she says (in 1997) that AIDS is preventable and that there should be more focus on that than on legitimising gay sex in public schools. That’s a fairly standard conservative position, and in this case, one backed up by fact. She said (and I’m paraphrasing) that unless attention is paid to what causes AIDS, then no matter how much funding is given to treatment, the problem of AIDS will always be with us. And she’s right. AIDS in America has never significantly fallen, and in 2007 (the latest figure I can find), over 80% of those with AIDS got it through sexual contact of one kind or another.

As she said, if you are at risk from heart disease, you are expected to cut down on smoking or eating fatty foods. Why should AIDS be any different? Not that I’m suggesting that homosexuals should cout out sex, just that they should be more careful. Again, I don’t think she’s being particularly controversial. Now if she was to say that AIDS was a punishment from God, that would be different matter, but I haven’t seen anything to suggest that she thinks that. If you have evidence to the contrary, I’d be happy to look at it.

@32/33

It’s the pretence that the Tea Party is grass-roots led that’s annoying. The continuing myth pushed by most media and the Tea Party leaders themselves is that it’s John and Jill Smith from Main St, Anytown, fed up with Big Govt etc etc. Whereas in reality it’s a self-serving elitist group who have deeply vested interests in wanting Govt out of the way – because they are rich, because they are conservative, because they don’t like the idea of capitalism being regulated. That’s my point.

As for AIDS, I’m pretty sure that funding is spent on both awareness campaigns as well as anti-retrovirals etc: cut that funding and people will die. Also she doesn’t think people who get AIDS should be called “victims” – now correct me if I’m wrong but that shows a certain callous mindset and certainly not the type of person I would want to be putting my life in the hands of if I was unfortunate to catch AIDS. The implication that she gives by comparing being gay to eating fatty foods or whatever is the same old conservative lie that being gay is somehow a lifestyle choice that someone can change by an act of will.

As I say upthread, is this really the best the GOP has to offer? Simplistic, religiously “inspired” arguments with the intellectual credibility of a three-year-old. No offence to any toddlers reading, of course.

Mr S Pill

1. The outside funding for the tea partys is an enabler, that’s true, but it doesn’t create the backlash. whether you want to acknowledge it or not, it is a genuine people movement. The people involved are hardly career political activists (although I’m sure some are). It is a genuine movement of a disaffected minority.

2. Her point about AIDs and victims is that portraying them as victims suggests that there is no personal responsibility involved. Are smokers with lung cancer victims? Or overweight people with diabetes? If you think yes, then OK but you can’t say yes on AIDS and no on smokers. It’s not suggesting that being gay is a lifestyle choice (if she thinks that, she’s wrong), she’s saying that a carefree gay lifestyle is wrong. Remember two things. Firstly her sister is a lesbian and fully supportive of O’Donnell which suggests she isn’t the anti-gay ogre the left are portraying her as. And secondly, that O’Donnell has almost as much a problem with straight sex as gay.

I realise O’Donnell isn’t a perfect candidate, but from my wanting a lesser government perspective, she’s better than Mike Castle and any Democrat.

“At this point I think it’s good to remind everyone that the Tea Party movement is actually funded by billionaires”

I too continually remind myself that Richard Murphy is funded by the Ford Foundation.

You know, funded by billionaires……

@Conservative Cabbie

Yes, I do see people with lung cancer and diabeties as victims. I believe in people being allowed to do what they wish so long as they are not harming other people, something I have in common with, I assume, people like yourself. And yes of course people have a responsibility to be safe and healthy for themselves – but to single out AIDS, as O’Donnell does (or did), smacks of homophobia IMO (and yes I know she mentioned eating the right foods etc but it seemed like tokenism to me). Although you’re probably right in that she is plain anti-sex, gay or straight. Which strikes me as being anti-human… but anyway.

We’re going to have to agree to disagree (I realise that hardly ever happens on LC but still) as I am going out to pollute my body with various intoxicants of an alcoholic nature. If I die of alcohol poisoning it will at least be an ironic end 😉

Brownshirt troll “1. The outside funding for the tea partys is an enabler, that’s true, but it doesn’t create the backlash. whether you want to acknowledge it or not, it is a genuine people movement. ”

No, it is the same base of the republican party who voted for G W Bush, who are being stirred up by Fox and various well known republican corporate lobbyists. Who, by the, way were quite happy running up the huge deficit through massive tax cuts for the richest 1% at the same time as fighting 2 major wars at the same time.

@Tim W

It’s a good job that Richard Murphy is constantly used by the media as an example of a grass-roots led movement that could affect the political paradigm in the US for the next decade or so, otherwise you wouldn’t have much of a point.

Oh…

Mr S Pill

Be good. And if you can’t be good, be careful. Have a good night.

Sally

You were never blessed with much in the brain department were you? Have you wondered why Republicans did so poorly in 2006 and 2008? And why Republicans have such a low approval rating? Probably not, because that requires a level of thought you seem to lack. It’s because those same people who are tea-partiers today stopped supporting the Republican Party because of Bush and Congressional Republicans. Why do you think they are taking out the ones they don’t approve of now?

And if you think I’m a brown shirt, you really are dumb.

“Who, by the, way were quite happy running up the huge deficit through massive tax cuts for the richest 1% at the same time as fighting 2 major wars at the same time.”

Wow. you really can’t be a fan of Obama then can you? He plans to add $3 trillion to the deficit with his proposal to extend the Bush tax cuts.

No I don’t have much time for Obama. He has turned out to be another corporate whore.

Just like your tea party sheep. Trouble is they don’t know it yet.

Sally

One wonders who you would find acceptable. Been reading about Mao and Bill Ayers today. Mao exterminated 45 million, Ayers wanted to slaughter 25 million. I’m assuming you are somewhere between Obama and them.

Just (half) kidding.

Christine O’Donnell would not approve

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIccX8q0Pg0


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