Watch: Democracy, road to self-destruction…


by Unity    
August 15, 2010 at 3:01 pm

From the file marked ‘who needs meds when you’ve got a camcorder and a youtube account?’ a good American Catholic explains what the real problem with democracy is and how best to fix it…

Tell you what, try watching the video here while I try to figure out why I can’t get the damn thing to embed properly.

(Via Pharyngula)


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Cheers Unity. Very very funny.

It’d be even better if I could actually embed the f/n video!

I love the still picture at the beginning. He looks like he’s just had a rectal surprise and likes it.

That’s wonderful. The problem with democracy is that people might vote for things I don’t like.

Perhaps you should say a little prayer Unity?

6. George W. Potter

You know what? He’s convinced me. Bring back the Stuarts! We need a Catholic monarchy again!

7. DisgustedOfTunbridgeWells

A lack of self awareness comparable only to tories bemoaning socialism.

“People will vote in their own narrow interests, instead, everyone should vote in my narrow interests, also, buggering kids is ace.”

8. Harvey Kelly

Could be worse… apparently the US is doomed by an even greater problem than mad catholics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBkbj_S3etY

The part where he called democracy an experiment very firmly put me in mind of “Sword_of_Truth” from Private Eye’s spoof ‘from the message boards’. Who ends every thread regardless of the subject with “Time to end the disastrous democratic experiment”.

I wrote a comment: I politely asked which non-Catholic governments had collapsed as he seemed to believe they all must. I just went back to check if he’s exercised his right of reply, as he did to everyone else. He’s removed all comments now. Too many people disagree with him. Bet that only confirms his point in his mind.

11. James Rathbone

Ah, such deep irony is the best nourishment one could ask for on a night when there’s nothing good on the TV. That’ll keep me chuckling for hours.

If unintentionally, the video makes a persuasive case for the speedy repeal of the Catholic Relief Act of 1829. By reports, the Duke of Wellington as PM in the Lords together with Sir Robert Peel as Home Secretary in the Commons had to face down much resistance in Parliament to secure passage of the legislation, such was the extent of the opposition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Relief_Act_1829

It would be a mistake, I think, to brand opponents of Catholic emancipation as mere bigots. Their opposition was well informed and rational:

A minimum of 280 people were burned to death at the stake for heresy in the course of Mary Tudor’s mercifully short reign (1553-8) in pusuit of her policy to return her realm to Catholicism. Most of the victims were artisans but also included were the Oxford Martyrs (1555/6) – Latimer, Ridley and Cranmer. The events are commemorated by a plaque on the wall of Balliol College, Oxford. In her lifetime, Mary Tudor was popularly known as Bloody Mary.

In the following reign of Elizabeth, her half-sister, the potential threat of an Armada from Spain was widely appreciated – hence the preparations for beacon fires to signal sighting of the Armada and, when it came in 1588, the attacks on the Armada made by small ships sailing out of Channel ports compared with the large Galleons of the Spanish fleet. The Armada sailed with a commission from the Pope to restore Catholicism to England.

Why do we still celebrate the capture of Guy Fawkes on 5 November 1605 every year? Large crowds attended the execution by hanging, drawing and quartering of Fawkes and his fellow conspirators near St Pauls and outside Parliament at the end of January 1606.

“Guy Fawkes could have changed the face of London if his 1605 plot had not been foiled, explosion experts have said. His 2,500 kg of gunpowder could have caused chaos and devastation over a 490-metre radius, they have calculated. Fawkes’ planned blast was powerful enough to destroy Westminster Hall and the Abbey, with streets as far as Whitehall suffering damage, they say.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3240135.stm

Put simply, Fawkes and his fellow conspirators were terrorists.

Crazy video! Does he never wonder why all the things which are selfish are things he doesn’t like, whereas all the things he thinks are virtuous sync with his personal beliefs? Bah, Moron.

@12

Not really liking the no popery here Bob.

The worries were almost foundationless. No one was worried the Catholics would seize power and start burning people, they were worried that they owed ultimate allegiance to the pope not the King and so they couldn’t have full rights.

Similar arguments about these days about Muslims and the Ummah, equally baseless of course. http://leftoutside.wordpress.com/2009/09/22/lawsuits-from-the-20sjackboots-from-the-30s/

hah! instant classic.

Wingnut Comedy Central.

15. George W. Potter

@Dave Weeden

I was lucky, he replied to mine before blocking me so I couldn’t reply back,. It was a shame as I was about to point out that an authoritarian dictatorship denies people free will which the bible claims is God’s greatest gift to us.

I must say that I’m not surprised that he’s killed the comments on this video. Not only has it been Pharyngula’d but its now up on Richard Dawkins’ site as well.

@13: “Not really liking the no popery here Bob.”

You may not like it but, as an undeniable fact, anti-Catholic sentiment ran strongly in Britain through the following centuries.

It was stoked by the flow of Protestant Huguenots from France seeking asylum here from the massacres there, starting with the St Bartholemew’s Day massacre of 23 August 1572 when thousands were slaughtered. Daniel Defoe references the Huguenot refugees in his satirical poem: The True-Born Englishman (1701):

Dutch, Walloons, Flemings, Irishmen, and Scots,
Vaudois and Valtelins, and Hugonots,
In good Queen Bess’s charitable reign,
Supplied us with three hundred thousand men.
Religion—God, we thank Thee!—sent them hither,
Priests, Protestants, the Devil and all together:
Of all professions and of every trade,
All that were persecuted or afraid . .

Anti-Catholic sentiment motivated the “Glorious Revolution” of 1688, which is why King James II fled in fear of his life and the throne passed to Mary and her husband William, at the invitation of Parliament:

“The Glorious Revolution, also called the Revolution of 1688, was the overthrow of King James II of England (VII of Scotland and II of Ireland) in 1688 by a union of Parliamentarians with an invading army led by the Dutch stadtholder William III of Orange-Nassau (William of Orange) who, as a result, ascended the English throne as William III of England together with his wife Mary II of England.

“The crisis besetting King James II came to a head in 1688, when the King fathered a son, James Francis Edward Stuart on 10 June (Julian calendar).[nb 1] Until then the throne would have passed to his daughter Mary, a Protestant, the wife of William. The prospect of a Roman Catholic dynasty in the kingdoms was now likely. . ”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glorious_Revolution

The Revolution established the principle that the sovereign reigned thereafter with the consent of the governed, no longer by divine right.

We are still living with the consequences of that Revolution. The annual Orange Order marches in N Ireland are to celebrate the outcome of the Battle of the Boyne in 1690 between the respective armies of James II and William and Mary.

The Act of Settlement of 1701, which defines legitimate heirs to the throne of the kingdom, prohibits the Prince of Wales from marrying a Catholic. Some still press for Parliament to amend the legislation to remove that prohibition.

The Gordon Riots of 1780 in London amounted to an anti-Catholic pogrom. Newgate Prison was burned down. Catholics were hunted down and killed. John Wilkes, lost his popularity as Lord Mayor of London when he called out troops to put down the riot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Riots

And each year on 5 November, we still celebrate the capture of Guy Fawkes and his fellow conspirators:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_Plot

To understand where we are, we need to know the route of how we arrived.


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  8. Dave Weeden

    Watch: Democracy – the road to self-destruction: http://youtu.be/3A-cWrs5mwE via .@libcon http://bit.ly/aSzfn9 Bizarre argument of the year.

  9. Lee Chalmers

    RT @libcon: Watch: Democracy – the road to self-destruction… http://bit.ly/aSzfn9 Ah freedom of speech. You gotta love it for comedy value

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  11. Josh Blacker

    "Only virtuous people should be allowed to vote" – http://bit.ly/cXFtks

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