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	<title>Comments on: Settlements are unsustainable, and Netanyahu knows it</title>
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		<title>By: Mustapha Dump</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/03/17/settlements-are-unsustainable-and-netanyahu-knows-it/#comment-115007</link>
		<dc:creator>Mustapha Dump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s just Bibi confiming to the world that Obama is a weak leader, as if they didn&#039;t already know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just Bibi confiming to the world that Obama is a weak leader, as if they didn&#8217;t already know.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Fenton</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/03/17/settlements-are-unsustainable-and-netanyahu-knows-it/#comment-114301</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Fenton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@4, the fact that Netenyahu needs to hold together his coalition Government needs pointing out. But he needs to be consistent with all parties: an interview with the Speaker of the Knesset in Ha&#039;aretz yesterday suggested he has not always been.

@13, well, &quot;Wiggy&quot; Bolton is at least a reliable talking head, even if he is reliably wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@4, the fact that Netenyahu needs to hold together his coalition Government needs pointing out. But he needs to be consistent with all parties: an interview with the Speaker of the Knesset in Ha&#8217;aretz yesterday suggested he has not always been.</p>
<p>@13, well, &#8220;Wiggy&#8221; Bolton is at least a reliable talking head, even if he is reliably wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Gwyn</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/03/17/settlements-are-unsustainable-and-netanyahu-knows-it/#comment-114246</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: 10

You&#039;re entirely correct in pointing out that terrorism is bad.

However, that&#039;s not really what this article&#039;s about. Moral relativism doesn&#039;t affect the fact that Israel&#039;s building houses on land that&#039;s not theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: 10</p>
<p>You&#8217;re entirely correct in pointing out that terrorism is bad.</p>
<p>However, that&#8217;s not really what this article&#8217;s about. Moral relativism doesn&#8217;t affect the fact that Israel&#8217;s building houses on land that&#8217;s not theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: blanco</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/03/17/settlements-are-unsustainable-and-netanyahu-knows-it/#comment-114245</link>
		<dc:creator>blanco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only a class-A-certified lunatic would describe John Bolton as sagacious. Bloody hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only a class-A-certified lunatic would describe John Bolton as sagacious. Bloody hell.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew adams</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/03/17/settlements-are-unsustainable-and-netanyahu-knows-it/#comment-114244</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As ever, I turned to Melanie Phillips for a sane and rational perspective on this issue...

&lt;blockquote&gt;Under a hail of domestic critisism over its reckless and unforgiveable inslaught against Israel, Hillary Clinton – deputed by Obama to do his dirty work last week – is now trying to defuse the crisis by adopting a more emollient tone. But Pandora’s box has now been opened, and the vicious creature that emerged cannot be put back again.

The ever-sagacious John Bolton....&lt;/blockquote&gt;

At this point I had to stop reading as my monitor was covered in coffee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As ever, I turned to Melanie Phillips for a sane and rational perspective on this issue&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Under a hail of domestic critisism over its reckless and unforgiveable inslaught against Israel, Hillary Clinton – deputed by Obama to do his dirty work last week – is now trying to defuse the crisis by adopting a more emollient tone. But Pandora’s box has now been opened, and the vicious creature that emerged cannot be put back again.</p>
<p>The ever-sagacious John Bolton&#8230;.</p></blockquote>
<p>At this point I had to stop reading as my monitor was covered in coffee.</p>
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		<title>By: FlyingRodent</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/03/17/settlements-are-unsustainable-and-netanyahu-knows-it/#comment-114242</link>
		<dc:creator>FlyingRodent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Did the Obama administration over-react?&lt;/em&gt; 

Given that all it&#039;s done is voice its displeasure, it barely even reacted at all.  The chances that this will translate into actual, concrete policy changes are zero. 

&lt;em&gt;The Israelis built some house and get slammed.  But they didn’t -&lt;/em&gt; 

This is a devastating argument, worthy of gracing any toddler-fight at any nursery in the land.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Did the Obama administration over-react?</em> </p>
<p>Given that all it&#8217;s done is voice its displeasure, it barely even reacted at all.  The chances that this will translate into actual, concrete policy changes are zero. </p>
<p><em>The Israelis built some house and get slammed.  But they didn’t -</em> </p>
<p>This is a devastating argument, worthy of gracing any toddler-fight at any nursery in the land.</p>
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		<title>By: Just Visiting</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/03/17/settlements-are-unsustainable-and-netanyahu-knows-it/#comment-114233</link>
		<dc:creator>Just Visiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just saw this video footage - apparently showing  Hamas using children as human shields:

http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?ID=171009</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saw this video footage &#8211; apparently showing  Hamas using children as human shields:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?ID=171009" rel="nofollow">http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?ID=171009</a></p>
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		<title>By: Just Visiting</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/03/17/settlements-are-unsustainable-and-netanyahu-knows-it/#comment-114232</link>
		<dc:creator>Just Visiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did the Obama administration over-react?

The Israelis built some house and get slammed.
But they didn&#039;t  air calls for a Jihad against America, as Palestinian Arab TV did.
They didn&#039;t name a square after the murderer of an American photographer, as the Palestinian Authority did.
No Israeli Anchorman did a skit in blackface during Obama&#039;s visit, as a Turkish anchorman did during Obama&#039;s visit there.
Are Israeli religious institutions issuing Fatwahs against America, as Al Azhar University, which Obama visited and spoke at, has done? 
Are Israeli leaders funding terrorism against America, as the Saudi King, before whom Obama bowed, does?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did the Obama administration over-react?</p>
<p>The Israelis built some house and get slammed.<br />
But they didn&#8217;t  air calls for a Jihad against America, as Palestinian Arab TV did.<br />
They didn&#8217;t name a square after the murderer of an American photographer, as the Palestinian Authority did.<br />
No Israeli Anchorman did a skit in blackface during Obama&#8217;s visit, as a Turkish anchorman did during Obama&#8217;s visit there.<br />
Are Israeli religious institutions issuing Fatwahs against America, as Al Azhar University, which Obama visited and spoke at, has done?<br />
Are Israeli leaders funding terrorism against America, as the Saudi King, before whom Obama bowed, does?</p>
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		<title>By: blanco</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/03/17/settlements-are-unsustainable-and-netanyahu-knows-it/#comment-114231</link>
		<dc:creator>blanco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love that this guy has linked to this post:

http://topicallimerick.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that this guy has linked to this post:</p>
<p><a href="http://topicallimerick.com/" rel="nofollow">http://topicallimerick.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Meet The New Boss &#171; Topical Limerick a Day</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/03/17/settlements-are-unsustainable-and-netanyahu-knows-it/#comment-114224</link>
		<dc:creator>Meet The New Boss &#171; Topical Limerick a Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] poor Bin Netanyahu, To his wits he seems to have bid adieu,  Citizens disagree, With his settling decree; He&#8217;s not just obtuse, but a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] poor Bin Netanyahu, To his wits he seems to have bid adieu,  Citizens disagree, With his settling decree; He&#8217;s not just obtuse, but a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: blanco</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/03/17/settlements-are-unsustainable-and-netanyahu-knows-it/#comment-114211</link>
		<dc:creator>blanco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave Osler criticises Israel? Never thought I&#039;d see it happen..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Osler criticises Israel? Never thought I&#8217;d see it happen..</p>
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		<title>By: claude</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/03/17/settlements-are-unsustainable-and-netanyahu-knows-it/#comment-114208</link>
		<dc:creator>claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would actually love to hear the argument in favour of the new settlements. How can anyone possibly justify it? Because it just seems so wrong, gratuituous, inflammatory, arrogant, counterproductive whichever angle you look at it from.

Please note that I&#039;m not normally pro-Palestinian come what may. I think Israel has unfairly received some rough treatment from the left in the past. But this? Seriously...what is Netanyahu hoping to achieve?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would actually love to hear the argument in favour of the new settlements. How can anyone possibly justify it? Because it just seems so wrong, gratuituous, inflammatory, arrogant, counterproductive whichever angle you look at it from.</p>
<p>Please note that I&#8217;m not normally pro-Palestinian come what may. I think Israel has unfairly received some rough treatment from the left in the past. But this? Seriously&#8230;what is Netanyahu hoping to achieve?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr S. Pill</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/03/17/settlements-are-unsustainable-and-netanyahu-knows-it/#comment-114196</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr S. Pill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@5 damn self-fulfilling irony...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@5 damn self-fulfilling irony&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MarinaS</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/03/17/settlements-are-unsustainable-and-netanyahu-knows-it/#comment-114189</link>
		<dc:creator>MarinaS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@3: well, you just did, so we&#039;re on track.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@3: well, you just did, so we&#8217;re on track.</p>
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		<title>By: MarinaS</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/03/17/settlements-are-unsustainable-and-netanyahu-knows-it/#comment-114188</link>
		<dc:creator>MarinaS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a fundamental misunderstanding of Bibi to say that the settlements are unsustainable as if that is something that&#039;s news to him. It&#039;s like telling Dick Cheney that oil prospecting is unsustainable, or telling Henry Kisinger that the war in Vietnam is unsustainable. On the &quot;Stupid or Evil&quot; scale of neocon real politik, Bibi falls neatly on the evil side. He knows the past, present and future miesry that the settlments inflict on both Palestinians and Israelis, he knows that the country will suffer a cataclismic shock when they eventually have to be evacuated, and he knows that the long term implications of his actions to Israel&#039;s future are likely dire. 

Newsflash: he doesn&#039;t give a shit. For now, building settlements keeps his coalition together, and keeping the coalition together delivers the only outcome that Bibi is in any way emotionally engaged with: it keeps Bibi in his post as prime minister, and assures that his eventual retirement to the Ivy League speaking circuit will be comfotable. The End.

I&#039;m a broken record on this, but it&#039;s worth the tedium in order to maybe someday have the message heard: if the Americans are serious about peace for Palestine, they need to stop paying Israel to be at war. The best way to ensure the settlements are not expanded further is to make sure there&#039;s no money in the piggy bank to do that with. And that is not something that&#039;s on the gift of anyone other than a brave US administration (or a cunning one - the Bush-Baker loan guarantees scheme is what enabled Oslo, after all).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a fundamental misunderstanding of Bibi to say that the settlements are unsustainable as if that is something that&#8217;s news to him. It&#8217;s like telling Dick Cheney that oil prospecting is unsustainable, or telling Henry Kisinger that the war in Vietnam is unsustainable. On the &#8220;Stupid or Evil&#8221; scale of neocon real politik, Bibi falls neatly on the evil side. He knows the past, present and future miesry that the settlments inflict on both Palestinians and Israelis, he knows that the country will suffer a cataclismic shock when they eventually have to be evacuated, and he knows that the long term implications of his actions to Israel&#8217;s future are likely dire. </p>
<p>Newsflash: he doesn&#8217;t give a shit. For now, building settlements keeps his coalition together, and keeping the coalition together delivers the only outcome that Bibi is in any way emotionally engaged with: it keeps Bibi in his post as prime minister, and assures that his eventual retirement to the Ivy League speaking circuit will be comfotable. The End.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a broken record on this, but it&#8217;s worth the tedium in order to maybe someday have the message heard: if the Americans are serious about peace for Palestine, they need to stop paying Israel to be at war. The best way to ensure the settlements are not expanded further is to make sure there&#8217;s no money in the piggy bank to do that with. And that is not something that&#8217;s on the gift of anyone other than a brave US administration (or a cunning one &#8211; the Bush-Baker loan guarantees scheme is what enabled Oslo, after all).</p>
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		<title>By: Mr S. Pill</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/03/17/settlements-are-unsustainable-and-netanyahu-knows-it/#comment-114180</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr S. Pill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m amazed - this article has been up for an hour and a half and no-one has shouted &quot;anti-Semite!&quot; yet...

Forgive me for being naive, but why don&#039;t the Palestinian workers building the settlements just go on strike?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m amazed &#8211; this article has been up for an hour and a half and no-one has shouted &#8220;anti-Semite!&#8221; yet&#8230;</p>
<p>Forgive me for being naive, but why don&#8217;t the Palestinian workers building the settlements just go on strike?</p>
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		<title>By: FlyingRodent</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/03/17/settlements-are-unsustainable-and-netanyahu-knows-it/#comment-114176</link>
		<dc:creator>FlyingRodent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s almost as if there were some connection between the US government&#039;s repeated declarations that they&#039;re 100% behind Israel until the end of the universe, and the Israelis&#039; belief that the Americans won&#039;t cut off their massive financial, military and diplomatic support no matter what they do. 

Surely not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s almost as if there were some connection between the US government&#8217;s repeated declarations that they&#8217;re 100% behind Israel until the end of the universe, and the Israelis&#8217; belief that the Americans won&#8217;t cut off their massive financial, military and diplomatic support no matter what they do. </p>
<p>Surely not.</p>
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		<title>By: Watchman</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/03/17/settlements-are-unsustainable-and-netanyahu-knows-it/#comment-114171</link>
		<dc:creator>Watchman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A sneaky part of me suggests that Palestinians might be happy at the new building - not because they want to protest, but because there will be some nice new houses available when Israel bows to the inevitable and recognises the Palestinian state in the West Bank (I think Gaza with its Hamas control may be a different issue).

Anyone else think this may be Netanyahu testing President Obama&#039;s resolve?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A sneaky part of me suggests that Palestinians might be happy at the new building &#8211; not because they want to protest, but because there will be some nice new houses available when Israel bows to the inevitable and recognises the Palestinian state in the West Bank (I think Gaza with its Hamas control may be a different issue).</p>
<p>Anyone else think this may be Netanyahu testing President Obama&#8217;s resolve?</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Siegel</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/03/17/settlements-are-unsustainable-and-netanyahu-knows-it/#comment-114192</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan Siegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Settlements are unsustainable, and Netanyahu knows it (saw in @newsfire) http://bit.ly/aAyWzU&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Settlements are unsustainable, and Netanyahu knows it (saw in @newsfire) <a href="http://bit.ly/aAyWzU" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/aAyWzU</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Dave Harris</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/03/17/settlements-are-unsustainable-and-netanyahu-knows-it/#comment-114165</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Worth a read RT @libcon Settlements are unsustainable, and Netanyahu knows it http://bit.ly/cZA3Xd&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Worth a read RT @libcon Settlements are unsustainable, and Netanyahu knows it <a href="http://bit.ly/cZA3Xd" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/cZA3Xd</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Liberal Conspiracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberal Conspiracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Settlements are unsustainable, and Netanyahu knows it http://bit.ly/cZA3Xd&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Settlements are unsustainable, and Netanyahu knows it <a href="http://bit.ly/cZA3Xd" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/cZA3Xd</a></span></span></span></p>
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