So if you were agreeing with me that cultures are different.. would a simple ‘I agree’ have saved a bunch of irate paragraphs.

>>> What you SAID, however, was that all asians are different because some of them like murder and rape.
>> I didn’t say that.
> Yes you did

Well I really don’t recall it – so you’ll have to actually quote my exact words.

Yes they are. Yes you did. There’s only one ‘n’.

It was a very simple question.
For the 3rd time of asking:

Do let us know whether you think that ‘cultures are different’.

> What you SAID, however, was that all asians are different because some of them like murder and rape.

I didn’t say that.

I gave up trying to work out what you think. What you SAID, however, was that all asians are different because some of them like murder and rape. You also forgot to mention why that was relevant in the first place.

If you deny the above then you’re just a petty liar.

31 you wrote

> From where I stand, I’m baffled at your credulity regarding ‘obvious statements’, and wonder if maybe you should sit down and think hard about other stuff you think is ‘obvious’.

Does that mean that you think what I thought of as obvious is NOT true at all?

I’d written:

“Anyway, I threw that 1 poll in to make the point that cultures are different.
(I’m married to a foreigner myself.) From where I stand, that seems like such an obviously true statement.”

As a lad I travelled a lot around France in the 50s and 60s and outside places like Marseilles and parts of Paris there weren’t too many of them.

At the time of the Algerian War though anti Arab sentiment was rife. Probably far worse than today. They were loathed even more than Les Anglais -and was saying something in angry post war France.

Racism then racism now.
Plus ca change.

“Problem with racists is that they are usually very obviously so.”

Untrue. If you are white, I suggest you google the phrase ‘Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack”. It simply isn’t possible to join in an informed discussion of racism without understanding where privilege comes into it.

without saying if you say this does happen you are automatically a racist

Well, those who point it out, out of context and in attempt to obfuscate, usually have at the very least racist sympathies. That doesnt mean you cant point it out, of course you can, but we should examine the motives of those who cite statistics and poll results completely out of context!

You’ll see. One day I’ll post a comment on Guido’s blog that causes every single one of his followers to swallow their own teeth in bewilderment.

http://atheism.about.com/b/2004/08/31/anti-gay-republican-outed-as-gay-resigns.htm

Just sayin’

All I can say is: lol

You miss the point that I was showing cjcjc how ridiculous his whatabouttery is.

@Gwyn Noble, but I dont think they can be mastered! I understand exactly where their bizarre thoughts come from – see Penny Arcade’s greater theory of internet fuckwads:

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/

There’s no mastering immature fools who are wasting their time and ours.

Come ooooon. So British muslims hate gays, is that really so controversial? Lots of British whites hate gays too. All sorts of British people hate gays. Even some British gays hate gays.

There’s easier, more effective and more methodical ways to debate the rigor of a religiously-targeted morality survey than to just call whoever brings it up a mouthpiece for the Evil Right. Stats 101 isn’t my job, mind.

That’s what I personally think too, there’s no useful distinction to be made.

Re: 66

I don’t feel like I’m arguing the toss at all. I do feel like it’s a good mental exercise to engage with nonsense-posts like Just Visiting’s, and figure out just why they wind me up. If I can understand it, maybe I can master it.

But no. We then get Blanco @ 66, 67, 71 and 73 with such gems as

It’s still in the Bible, and they haven’t taken it out.

Are you seriously asking why Christians have not thought to censor the Bible to accord with your politically correct prejudices?

Really?

Points about comments are noted. We want to have lively debates with people who don’t always share the liberal-left’s views on some issues (and it can help us to refine and develop our arguments to win people over), but I agree that having to debate everything from first principles is really tedious and gets in the way of having more interesting discussions.

As the site is run by volunteers who have more productive things to do than to police every single comment, it’s something we’ll be looking at as part of the site’s redesign in April. But please don’t go away, I’m going to try some short term fixes over the next couple of weeks which might help.

Presumably for the same reason cjcjc, Twatterface, Just Visiting and you aren’t banned – it’s called free speech, and I am using mine to call you out on your crap.

You dont like it? Go troll somewhere else, you fucker.

The F Word doesn’t have comments sections on its articles – I think instead it asks people to write their own articles if they actually want to respond constructively to the articles. If you have written a 500-word article about a complex topic, for some twat to come along and go nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah in one sentence and then turn your debate into shit.. well, that’s not exactly a “movement”, let alone a movement with a future.

comedy genius

Thank you, thank you! It is a lot cleverer than “Look at the Muslims, they hate gays!”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/may/07/muslims-britain-france-germany-homosexuality

Now admittedly with that sample size the margin of error is just under 5%, but then with a starting point of zero…

But you just keep your fingers in your ears.