10,000 times as bad?


by Left Outside    
February 28, 2010 at 1:47 pm

@AlexMassie has written a short and what should be not particularly provocative most entitled Huge Earthquake in Chile, Not Many Dead.

Perhaps it is because the carnage that is Haiti is so fresh in my mind but I guess it cannot just be him and I who will feel a little underwhelmed. Actually that is perhaps the wrong word, relieved is probably more apt.

Angry is another word which I could use.

The quake which hit Haiti had a magnitude of 7. Chile has just been hit with a quake with a magnitude of 8.8. Given that this is a logarithmic scale this means that Chile was hit with a quake nearly 100 times more powerful than that which struck Haiti.

The initial death toll for Haiti hovered around 50,000 but has leapt as bodies and destruction has been uncovered The New York Times reports that the cost could be between $7.2 billion to $13.2 billion, based on a death toll from 200,000 to 250,000.

MapThe initial reporting from Chile states that 82 people have died. This number is bound to increase but is far lower than even the preliminary outlines that we heard from Haiti on the 12th January.

Geography has certainly played an important role in why Chile has suffered less than Haiti.

Haiti was struck by an earthquake 25 km from its vast and sprawling capital whereas Chile’s quake has struck further away from major population centres.

But poverty and corruption meant that any disaster which struck Haiti would have an impact out of proportion to what we would expect anywhere else.

“Earthquakes don’t kill people,” says John Mutter, a seismologist and disaster expert at Columbia University’s Earth Institute. “Bad buildings kill them.”

So because of these factors an earthquake 100 times more powerful will only kill a 100th as many people.


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Intelligent Design strikes again.

The conclusion to this piece is very very important indeed, and has to do with the concentration of people in already dense cities. It does bring about questions about the way in which Haiti was reported on, that somewhere that ‘an earthquake 100 times more powerful will only kill a 100th as many people’ as a place like Haiti asks uncomfortable questions about poverty, that should not come about as a result of tragedy and disaster. The appalling conclusion also (and not appalling because it has been said, but appalling as it is right) that the Chile news is underwhelming.

It’s not just buildings, it’s the response and emergency services too. Haiti had no set up for what they faced, Chile lives on the basis that it’s likely to happen.

The biggest problem in Port-au-Prince was due to the city being built on earth rather than rocky ground. The soil fluidises in an earthquake so structures are far more likely to collapse. Add the effects of poverty, corruption and density of habitation and you have a huge death toll.

Its early days in the Chile quake and there are tsunamis to come. Don’t be too hasty to conclude anything.

here is a blog post linking to research into the relationship between poverty and deaths resulting from natural disasters: http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2010/02/the-elasticity-of-natural-disaster-deaths-with-respect-to-income.html

6. A Libertarian

Your figures are wrong.

According to the figures on this page…:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moment_magnitude_scale

…a magnitude 8.8 earthquake will have just over 500 times the energy of a magnitude 7.0 quake.

The calculation is left as an exercise for the reader.

While I agree with A Libertarian that your figures are wrong, they are not wrong in the way s/he suggests.

It is claimed that the earthquake was “nearly 100 times more powerful” than the Haiti one.

Now “power” can mean different things. To a physicist like myself, it is essentially energy over time.

But to a layman, it doesn’t really mean that. In the colloquial sense, “power” could mean “energy” as A Libertarian says.

However, it could also mean “how much shaking was there?” i.e. the amplitude. This could also be a more useful term than energy, since just quoting energy does not tell you how it was dissipated.

And the amount of shaking works exactly as Left Outside thought it did:

Chile – Mag 8.8
Haiti – Mag 7.0

8.8 – 7.0 = 1.8

Number of times more “powerful” = 10^1.8

But this is where I disagree with Left Outside, since 10^1.8 is about 63, which is not “nearly 100″. Unfortunately, small differences in exponents (like between 10^1.8 and 10^2) can be deceiving.

“But poverty and corruption meant that any disaster which struck Haiti would have an impact out of proportion to what we would expect anywhere else.”

You and Massie aren’t the only people to have made this link. Yes, poverty kills people rather more than natural disasters do. We should thus be promoting economic development in the best manner we know how.

There are those out there who seem to think that economic development doesn’t matter: or at least, not as much as equality say, or fairness, or some other value (the environment?) which should be put ahead of mere physical wealth.

Not a view I subscribe to, you won’t be surprised to hear.

Another aspect is where there has been no earthquakes in the last 200 years. Consequently there is tendency not to design buildings or site them in safer locations. Japan has history of earthquakes and the traditional homes were designed in part to cope with them.

After the earthquake near Indonesia , there was a cocnern that inhabitants of some islands in the Indian Ocean would have been killed. However, the folklore said if the sea retreated , then the people should flee to the high ground: they did and were saved. The probelm is that is a building is to resist shocks from an earthquake, it needs tensile strength, which invariable comes from steel.

In addition, if there has been heavy rain on steep slopes with thick soil cover , then it can become fluid , leading to a mud flow.


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  2. Raincoat Optimism

    RT @libcon 10,000 times as bad? http://bit.ly/cFB8o1 >> Very important

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    RT @libcon Chile vs Haiti – 10,000 times as bad? http://bit.ly/cFB8o1

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  5. Dave Harris

    +100 RT @libcon 10,000 times as bad? http://bit.ly/9tY9Zk << Read this & get angry.





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