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		<title>By: Where has the Tory poll lead gone? &#124; David Breaker - David T Breaker&#39;s blog</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/24/do-tories-know-why-their-poll-lead-has-dived/#comment-109842</link>
		<dc:creator>Where has the Tory poll lead gone? &#124; David Breaker - David T Breaker&#39;s blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 19:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] conducted daily for The Sun. Despite this sudden turn-around there has been very little analysis, something Liberal Conspiracy points out. They of course trot out the usual guff about &#8220;bad policies, wrong rhettotic, Cameron, and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] conducted daily for The Sun. Despite this sudden turn-around there has been very little analysis, something Liberal Conspiracy points out. They of course trot out the usual guff about &#8220;bad policies, wrong rhettotic, Cameron, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/24/do-tories-know-why-their-poll-lead-has-dived/#comment-109772</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 10:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the evidence of the diminishing lead of the Conservatives in the polls in recent weeks, it seems the prospect of a change in government has frightened many voters, especially with George Osborne stomping around calling for sweeping public spending cuts regardless. This must all be rather disconcerting for Conservatives with their campaign slogan: Vote for Change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the evidence of the diminishing lead of the Conservatives in the polls in recent weeks, it seems the prospect of a change in government has frightened many voters, especially with George Osborne stomping around calling for sweeping public spending cuts regardless. This must all be rather disconcerting for Conservatives with their campaign slogan: Vote for Change.</p>
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		<title>By: rumpypumpy</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/24/do-tories-know-why-their-poll-lead-has-dived/#comment-109371</link>
		<dc:creator>rumpypumpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear LiberalConspirators,

Over the last week I&#039;ve been working like the clappers,  far too busy to look at blogs and am astonished at how much more I managed to get done than when I talk here.

So, I think it&#039;s time to escape from looking at sites like this before it develops into a full blown addiction, consuming me and turning me into a blogger.

Arguing with people here has been enjoyable, but on reflection our opinions are deeply entrenched and the conversations don&#039;t change anything -  so it&#039;s no less of a waste of time than sitting on the sofa playing on an XBox. 

On reflection I&#039;d rather use the time to work and earn some more money than discuss with you how I should be taxed or give it away to &#039;deserving&#039; causes.

Enjoy the election.

WIshing you well.

rumpypumpy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear LiberalConspirators,</p>
<p>Over the last week I&#8217;ve been working like the clappers,  far too busy to look at blogs and am astonished at how much more I managed to get done than when I talk here.</p>
<p>So, I think it&#8217;s time to escape from looking at sites like this before it develops into a full blown addiction, consuming me and turning me into a blogger.</p>
<p>Arguing with people here has been enjoyable, but on reflection our opinions are deeply entrenched and the conversations don&#8217;t change anything &#8211;  so it&#8217;s no less of a waste of time than sitting on the sofa playing on an XBox. </p>
<p>On reflection I&#8217;d rather use the time to work and earn some more money than discuss with you how I should be taxed or give it away to &#8216;deserving&#8217; causes.</p>
<p>Enjoy the election.</p>
<p>WIshing you well.</p>
<p>rumpypumpy</p>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/24/do-tories-know-why-their-poll-lead-has-dived/#comment-109370</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all the stuff in the news about bloated public sector employment, I was a bit suprised to come upon this from a Google search:

&quot;Across the country as a whole, it says 57% of new jobs created during the period 1997-2007 were state or &#039;para-state&#039; — dependent on government spending.&quot; 
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/economics/article7009695.ece

I dug a little deeper and came upon this:

&quot;Public sector employment in the United Kingdom as a proportion of total employment was 20.4 per cent in June 2005.  This was still below the June 1992 figure of 23.1 per cent but above the low point of 19.2 per cent in June 1999.&quot;
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1292

This shows what has happened to public sector employment from 2005 onwards:
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?ID=407

Employment in the banks now owned by taxpayers count as public sector jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all the stuff in the news about bloated public sector employment, I was a bit suprised to come upon this from a Google search:</p>
<p>&#8220;Across the country as a whole, it says 57% of new jobs created during the period 1997-2007 were state or &#8216;para-state&#8217; — dependent on government spending.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/economics/article7009695.ece" rel="nofollow">http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/economics/article7009695.ece</a></p>
<p>I dug a little deeper and came upon this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Public sector employment in the United Kingdom as a proportion of total employment was 20.4 per cent in June 2005.  This was still below the June 1992 figure of 23.1 per cent but above the low point of 19.2 per cent in June 1999.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1292" rel="nofollow">http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1292</a></p>
<p>This shows what has happened to public sector employment from 2005 onwards:<br />
<a href="http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?ID=407" rel="nofollow">http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?ID=407</a></p>
<p>Employment in the banks now owned by taxpayers count as public sector jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: jungle</title>
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		<dc:creator>jungle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim J (24): Good point.

The Labour Party leadership has, I think, been talking to its base a bit recently - or at least trying not to offend them.

It&#039;s not that long since they were trying to win the Daily Mail vote by blasting people on benefits as scroungers and miscreants, sporadically announcing immigration crackdowns, going on about &#039;rebalancing&#039; the justice system, and demonising the wearing of Muslim dress as the greatest threat to Britishness since the Norman conquest.

Recently they seem to have dropped most of this, perhaps realising that it&#039;s completely futile, since this group of voters hate them permanently, and will never ever believe they are cracking down on any of these things, no matter what they announce or actually do. They&#039;ve also almost entirely stopped talking about their programmes to marketise public services, and cut back considerably on public displays of harmony with the CBI - and instead started warbling improbably about the merits of co-operatives.

It&#039;s working, to some extent. But, as you say, while it may prevent a landslide, it&#039;s not an obvious winning strategy, at least at this late stage...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim J (24): Good point.</p>
<p>The Labour Party leadership has, I think, been talking to its base a bit recently &#8211; or at least trying not to offend them.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that long since they were trying to win the Daily Mail vote by blasting people on benefits as scroungers and miscreants, sporadically announcing immigration crackdowns, going on about &#8216;rebalancing&#8217; the justice system, and demonising the wearing of Muslim dress as the greatest threat to Britishness since the Norman conquest.</p>
<p>Recently they seem to have dropped most of this, perhaps realising that it&#8217;s completely futile, since this group of voters hate them permanently, and will never ever believe they are cracking down on any of these things, no matter what they announce or actually do. They&#8217;ve also almost entirely stopped talking about their programmes to marketise public services, and cut back considerably on public displays of harmony with the CBI &#8211; and instead started warbling improbably about the merits of co-operatives.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s working, to some extent. But, as you say, while it may prevent a landslide, it&#8217;s not an obvious winning strategy, at least at this late stage&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;all variants of Third Way bollocks are found wanting.&quot;

While I certainly regard Blair&#039;s Third Way stuff as very expendable garbage, I don&#039;t regard Keynes and keynesian economics as garbage.

Try Skidelsky: Keynes - The Return of the Master (Penguin Books, 2009)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/aug/30/keynes-return-master-robert-skidelsky

IMO this is a modern, accessible academic text on macroeconomics and it&#039;s by one of them foreigners at a Swiss uni. For a start, it puts an emphasis throughout on evidence-based policy:

Manfred Gartner: Macroeconomics (Financial Times, 3rd ed 2009)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Macroeconomics-Manfred-Gartner/dp/0273717901/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1267096862&amp;sr=1-1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;all variants of Third Way bollocks are found wanting.&#8221;</p>
<p>While I certainly regard Blair&#8217;s Third Way stuff as very expendable garbage, I don&#8217;t regard Keynes and keynesian economics as garbage.</p>
<p>Try Skidelsky: Keynes &#8211; The Return of the Master (Penguin Books, 2009)<br />
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/aug/30/keynes-return-master-robert-skidelsky" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/aug/30/keynes-return-master-robert-skidelsky</a></p>
<p>IMO this is a modern, accessible academic text on macroeconomics and it&#8217;s by one of them foreigners at a Swiss uni. For a start, it puts an emphasis throughout on evidence-based policy:</p>
<p>Manfred Gartner: Macroeconomics (Financial Times, 3rd ed 2009)<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Macroeconomics-Manfred-Gartner/dp/0273717901/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1267096862&#038;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.co.uk/Macroeconomics-Manfred-Gartner/dp/0273717901/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1267096862&#038;sr=1-1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim J</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/24/do-tories-know-why-their-poll-lead-has-dived/#comment-109051</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>25 - Fine, but the phenomenon you have to explain is not slumping Tory polls, but increasing Labour ones.  All things being equal, it is more likely that this is due to Labour and not the Tories.

It&#039;s those days when Labour were polling in the low 20s that now look like an aberration.  And it&#039;s worth remembering that the new and improved fabulous Labour polling share is still roughly that attained by John Major and William Hague...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>25 &#8211; Fine, but the phenomenon you have to explain is not slumping Tory polls, but increasing Labour ones.  All things being equal, it is more likely that this is due to Labour and not the Tories.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s those days when Labour were polling in the low 20s that now look like an aberration.  And it&#8217;s worth remembering that the new and improved fabulous Labour polling share is still roughly that attained by John Major and William Hague&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Yurrzem!</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/24/do-tories-know-why-their-poll-lead-has-dived/#comment-109043</link>
		<dc:creator>Yurrzem!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The tory strategy hasn&#039;t moved on from the Blair period. Call-Me-Dave (like Nick Clegg) was a nice smiley young face to outblair Blair. Similarly, vague policy suggestions aped the fatuous newspeak Third Way bollocks. All very easy in a healthy economic climate where everyone&#039;s policy was a variant of steady-as-she-goes. Now things are a bit stickier some real substance is needed and all variants of Third Way bollocks are found wanting. Tory instinct is to revert to type, increasingly obvious now the shiny fake paintjob is beginning to flake off. Its pleasing that enough people seem unconvinced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tory strategy hasn&#8217;t moved on from the Blair period. Call-Me-Dave (like Nick Clegg) was a nice smiley young face to outblair Blair. Similarly, vague policy suggestions aped the fatuous newspeak Third Way bollocks. All very easy in a healthy economic climate where everyone&#8217;s policy was a variant of steady-as-she-goes. Now things are a bit stickier some real substance is needed and all variants of Third Way bollocks are found wanting. Tory instinct is to revert to type, increasingly obvious now the shiny fake paintjob is beginning to flake off. Its pleasing that enough people seem unconvinced.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim J</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/24/do-tories-know-why-their-poll-lead-has-dived/#comment-109032</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As a supplicant to 4 above, it may be that the Tory lead was inflated before due to Labour voters saying they weren’t going to vote. Now the election is coming along the Labour vote is hardening.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is, I suspect, the key point here.  The Tory share in the opinion polls has wobbled around the 38-42 mark since May 2009 - with a couple of blips along the way.  They&#039;re still there.  The real movement has been for Labour.  They&#039;ve improved from about 25 in October to about 32 now.

Why has the Labour share increased?  Well, they&#039;ve stopped actively trying to sabotage themselves for a start. They&#039;ve also given up trying to govern - there are no new policies being put into effect, so there are fewer chances to balls everything up.  They&#039;ve also tightened up their pr skills - the return of the delightful Campbell and Whelan.  Ultimately, however, if the Tories stay at 38-40 they&#039;re going to win the election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As a supplicant to 4 above, it may be that the Tory lead was inflated before due to Labour voters saying they weren’t going to vote. Now the election is coming along the Labour vote is hardening.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is, I suspect, the key point here.  The Tory share in the opinion polls has wobbled around the 38-42 mark since May 2009 &#8211; with a couple of blips along the way.  They&#8217;re still there.  The real movement has been for Labour.  They&#8217;ve improved from about 25 in October to about 32 now.</p>
<p>Why has the Labour share increased?  Well, they&#8217;ve stopped actively trying to sabotage themselves for a start. They&#8217;ve also given up trying to govern &#8211; there are no new policies being put into effect, so there are fewer chances to balls everything up.  They&#8217;ve also tightened up their pr skills &#8211; the return of the delightful Campbell and Whelan.  Ultimately, however, if the Tories stay at 38-40 they&#8217;re going to win the election.</p>
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		<title>By: Planeshift</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/24/do-tories-know-why-their-poll-lead-has-dived/#comment-109022</link>
		<dc:creator>Planeshift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 09:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its just the way opinion polls fluctuate and the way that historically parties move a bit closer come the election. 

Whilst I would like a hung parliament, I still say the £10 I put on Cameron winning by 20-50 seats back in 2007 was a good bet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its just the way opinion polls fluctuate and the way that historically parties move a bit closer come the election. </p>
<p>Whilst I would like a hung parliament, I still say the £10 I put on Cameron winning by 20-50 seats back in 2007 was a good bet.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Harris</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/24/do-tories-know-why-their-poll-lead-has-dived/#comment-109331</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Interesting one on LibCon: http://bit.ly/bMBy6W one commenter suggests they&#039;re deliberately throwing the election for fear of winning...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Interesting one on LibCon: <a href="http://bit.ly/bMBy6W" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/bMBy6W</a> one commenter suggests they&#39;re deliberately throwing the election for fear of winning&#8230;</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Will Rhodes</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/24/do-tories-know-why-their-poll-lead-has-dived/#comment-109006</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Rhodes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 05:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It could be, as the election moves ever closer, people are realising what a Tory government will be like. 

Whether people realise it or not - most simply dismiss it, especially the apologists of the former PM Thatcher, many, many people grew up under her reign, add to that what came afterwards.

Cameron, to me, has fallen foul of a simple premise. He made plans - a battle plan. All he has is the yes men saying that all is fine, we are a shoe-in, Dave. But what happens to plans in battles - you have to forget them as soon as battle is joined. The Tories have broken ground too early. Not only that - they believed that once broken everything would go their way. It hasn&#039;t - and gleefully I watch as they snatch, for this is what a hung parliament will be, defeat from the jaws of victory.

Relate to ConHome - the public really, really detest Blair - with a passion. Dave trying to be Blair II is to his detriment, he should have been what he pretended to be. 

Seeing the right implode is such a joyous thing. If any, if there should be any, left-leaning press out there - they should exploit every hole possible and make the Tories explain every policy document going. The left then should say what they are going to do to counter the new Thatcherism, and this time stick to it. Though that isn&#039;t going to be the case with Mandleson and Balls anywhere near cabinet posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It could be, as the election moves ever closer, people are realising what a Tory government will be like. </p>
<p>Whether people realise it or not &#8211; most simply dismiss it, especially the apologists of the former PM Thatcher, many, many people grew up under her reign, add to that what came afterwards.</p>
<p>Cameron, to me, has fallen foul of a simple premise. He made plans &#8211; a battle plan. All he has is the yes men saying that all is fine, we are a shoe-in, Dave. But what happens to plans in battles &#8211; you have to forget them as soon as battle is joined. The Tories have broken ground too early. Not only that &#8211; they believed that once broken everything would go their way. It hasn&#8217;t &#8211; and gleefully I watch as they snatch, for this is what a hung parliament will be, defeat from the jaws of victory.</p>
<p>Relate to ConHome &#8211; the public really, really detest Blair &#8211; with a passion. Dave trying to be Blair II is to his detriment, he should have been what he pretended to be. </p>
<p>Seeing the right implode is such a joyous thing. If any, if there should be any, left-leaning press out there &#8211; they should exploit every hole possible and make the Tories explain every policy document going. The left then should say what they are going to do to counter the new Thatcherism, and this time stick to it. Though that isn&#8217;t going to be the case with Mandleson and Balls anywhere near cabinet posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>19. Bob B. I cannot see the large number of white collar non-technical workers Labour have employed in the last 13 years doing much to improve our industrial capability. If Labour had greatly increased the number of craftsmen, technicians, scientists and charted engineer employed by government perhaps we would have the people to design, build and operate windfarms, wave powered generation , high speed rail links etc. In much of the Uk , the salaries, pensions, holiday entitlement, few hours worked are so generous in the state sector  that many private firms , especially the smaller ones cannot compete. Over the last 20 years , UK manufacturing has had to become lean- layers of non-productive staff have been removed . Consequently the UK has a small  lean and often high value manufacturing capability ; it is time the bloated white collar non-technical administrative  state sector followed suite or retrained  and obtained the technical skills required for industrial employment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>19. Bob B. I cannot see the large number of white collar non-technical workers Labour have employed in the last 13 years doing much to improve our industrial capability. If Labour had greatly increased the number of craftsmen, technicians, scientists and charted engineer employed by government perhaps we would have the people to design, build and operate windfarms, wave powered generation , high speed rail links etc. In much of the Uk , the salaries, pensions, holiday entitlement, few hours worked are so generous in the state sector  that many private firms , especially the smaller ones cannot compete. Over the last 20 years , UK manufacturing has had to become lean- layers of non-productive staff have been removed . Consequently the UK has a small  lean and often high value manufacturing capability ; it is time the bloated white collar non-technical administrative  state sector followed suite or retrained  and obtained the technical skills required for industrial employment.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Kristol-Balls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Kristol-Balls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it obvious? They&#039;re trying to throw the election.

They&#039;ve seen what they&#039;re going to have to deal with and being well educated types they know that there&#039;s no &quot;F&quot; in &quot;way&quot;.

As in there&#039;s no f-in way we want to be in charge anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it obvious? They&#8217;re trying to throw the election.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve seen what they&#8217;re going to have to deal with and being well educated types they know that there&#8217;s no &#8220;F&#8221; in &#8220;way&#8221;.</p>
<p>As in there&#8217;s no f-in way we want to be in charge anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@17: &quot;A combination of inflation and a period of repaying our debts is unlikley to be a good basis for economic growth.&quot;

True enough though the Bank of England is predicting a return to subdued inflation after the current hike in the rate and that means continued low interest rates ahead.

Economic prospects will greatly depend on what happens in the Eurozone, which is the UK&#039;s main export market. Recent reports indicate that the Eurozone economy - especially the German economy - is flagging with the real risk of a double-dip recession there.

Reports about the banks here say, overall, that bank lending to business remains at a low ebb so it&#039;s difficult to be optimistic about an early pick up in business investment. If consumers are saving more and the government is cutting spending while bank lending is constraining business investment then exports are our only hope of additional monetary demand. 

What I find more than a little strange is George Osborne&#039;s continuing focus on (obsession with?) the UK&#039;s fiscal deficit and the need for public spending cuts in the immediate future regardless and without mentioning the state of the Eurozone economy and what is happening with bank lending here.

I suspect that his personal ambitions and partisan instincts render him completely incapable of producing a balanced assessment of economic prospects and the policy options. It&#039;s becoming crystal clear that he is personally committed to making substantial public spending cuts as soon as he can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@17: &#8220;A combination of inflation and a period of repaying our debts is unlikley to be a good basis for economic growth.&#8221;</p>
<p>True enough though the Bank of England is predicting a return to subdued inflation after the current hike in the rate and that means continued low interest rates ahead.</p>
<p>Economic prospects will greatly depend on what happens in the Eurozone, which is the UK&#8217;s main export market. Recent reports indicate that the Eurozone economy &#8211; especially the German economy &#8211; is flagging with the real risk of a double-dip recession there.</p>
<p>Reports about the banks here say, overall, that bank lending to business remains at a low ebb so it&#8217;s difficult to be optimistic about an early pick up in business investment. If consumers are saving more and the government is cutting spending while bank lending is constraining business investment then exports are our only hope of additional monetary demand. </p>
<p>What I find more than a little strange is George Osborne&#8217;s continuing focus on (obsession with?) the UK&#8217;s fiscal deficit and the need for public spending cuts in the immediate future regardless and without mentioning the state of the Eurozone economy and what is happening with bank lending here.</p>
<p>I suspect that his personal ambitions and partisan instincts render him completely incapable of producing a balanced assessment of economic prospects and the policy options. It&#8217;s becoming crystal clear that he is personally committed to making substantial public spending cuts as soon as he can.</p>
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		<title>By: Syzygy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syzygy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is extraordinary how incompetent the Tories are being.. even with a right wing media, the reporting cannot hide the inconsistencies and the facile spin.  

I have just recieved a leaflet from our Conservative PPC ... it is full of falsehoods.  For example blaming the government for trying to impose landraise sites in this rural area... government doesn&#039;t control landraise proposals.. it is the Tory county council that is responsible... and the PPC hasn&#039;t even bothered to proof read his own leaflet adequately, which seems just typical of the national Tories.  

People are not stupid and even if they don&#039;t know the facts, they can feel that the presentation is just not quite believable.  

Voters may not like nulabour, but the Tory frontbench come across as lightweight and their policies and statements, simplistic or improbable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is extraordinary how incompetent the Tories are being.. even with a right wing media, the reporting cannot hide the inconsistencies and the facile spin.  </p>
<p>I have just recieved a leaflet from our Conservative PPC &#8230; it is full of falsehoods.  For example blaming the government for trying to impose landraise sites in this rural area&#8230; government doesn&#8217;t control landraise proposals.. it is the Tory county council that is responsible&#8230; and the PPC hasn&#8217;t even bothered to proof read his own leaflet adequately, which seems just typical of the national Tories.  </p>
<p>People are not stupid and even if they don&#8217;t know the facts, they can feel that the presentation is just not quite believable.  </p>
<p>Voters may not like nulabour, but the Tory frontbench come across as lightweight and their policies and statements, simplistic or improbable.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UKIP voters may decide to vote Tory now. The Indy talks about house prices facing double dip. Average house price was £164K . If average wage is £25k. 4x average wage plus 10% deposit  equates to £110K. If house prices fell to a more sustainable levels from £64k to £110 k is £54K reduction or  33%. So far house prices have down aboubt 20%, this would mean there is a potential further decline of 13%. H Mc Rae of the Indy has been talking abou the return of inflation. Stephen King , Chief Economist of HSBC in the Monday Indy pointed out that paying off our debt may prevent much growth. If after the election , the markets do not consider there is credile policy to reduce the debt , then we could be trouble. A combination of inflation and  a period of repaying our debts is unlikley to be a good basis for economic growth.  If a company is repaying debts , then it does not have the money to buy equipment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UKIP voters may decide to vote Tory now. The Indy talks about house prices facing double dip. Average house price was £164K . If average wage is £25k. 4x average wage plus 10% deposit  equates to £110K. If house prices fell to a more sustainable levels from £64k to £110 k is £54K reduction or  33%. So far house prices have down aboubt 20%, this would mean there is a potential further decline of 13%. H Mc Rae of the Indy has been talking abou the return of inflation. Stephen King , Chief Economist of HSBC in the Monday Indy pointed out that paying off our debt may prevent much growth. If after the election , the markets do not consider there is credile policy to reduce the debt , then we could be trouble. A combination of inflation and  a period of repaying our debts is unlikley to be a good basis for economic growth.  If a company is repaying debts , then it does not have the money to buy equipment.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/24/do-tories-know-why-their-poll-lead-has-dived/#comment-108987</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gus O&#039;Donnell, cabinet secretary and head of the civil service, on what happens if there&#039;s a hung Parliament after the election:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/feb/24/whitehall-gus-odonnell-hung-parliament-purdah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gus O&#8217;Donnell, cabinet secretary and head of the civil service, on what happens if there&#8217;s a hung Parliament after the election:<br />
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/feb/24/whitehall-gus-odonnell-hung-parliament-purdah" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/feb/24/whitehall-gus-odonnell-hung-parliament-purdah</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/24/do-tories-know-why-their-poll-lead-has-dived/#comment-108984</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a supplicant to 4 above, it may be that the Tory lead was inflated before due to Labour voters saying they weren&#039;t going to vote.  Now the election is coming along the Labour vote is hardening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a supplicant to 4 above, it may be that the Tory lead was inflated before due to Labour voters saying they weren&#8217;t going to vote.  Now the election is coming along the Labour vote is hardening.</p>
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		<title>By: Roberto Blanco</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/24/do-tories-know-why-their-poll-lead-has-dived/#comment-108983</link>
		<dc:creator>Roberto Blanco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off topic Sunny, but you should put something up like this for your 3rd LC mission statement post: 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/feb/24/tea-party-protests-liberals</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic Sunny, but you should put something up like this for your 3rd LC mission statement post: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/feb/24/tea-party-protests-liberals" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/feb/24/tea-party-protests-liberals</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The sight of activists panicking and subjecting Cameron to angry tirades is a joy to behold.&quot;

Half of them are probably UKIPers, one of ConHome&#039;s weaknesses is that it attracts a lot of very angry people who can be disruptive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The sight of activists panicking and subjecting Cameron to angry tirades is a joy to behold.&#8221;</p>
<p>Half of them are probably UKIPers, one of ConHome&#8217;s weaknesses is that it attracts a lot of very angry people who can be disruptive.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/24/do-tories-know-why-their-poll-lead-has-dived/#comment-108980</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update from this evening&#039;s news:

&quot;A doctor who falsified a prescription for a cocaine-addicted escort girl has been suspended for six months by the General Medical Council (GMC).

&quot;Adam Osborne, 33, brother of shadow chancellor George Osborne, admitted &#039;inappropriate&#039; behaviour.&quot; 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8534938.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update from this evening&#8217;s news:</p>
<p>&#8220;A doctor who falsified a prescription for a cocaine-addicted escort girl has been suspended for six months by the General Medical Council (GMC).</p>
<p>&#8220;Adam Osborne, 33, brother of shadow chancellor George Osborne, admitted &#8216;inappropriate&#8217; behaviour.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8534938.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8534938.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/24/do-tories-know-why-their-poll-lead-has-dived/#comment-108974</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote from today&#039;s FT:

&quot;Steven Major, head of global fixed income research at HSBC, said: &#039;The worries over the UK have receded because it is a strong economy with its own currency. Fears that the UK will lose its triple-A status and not be able to find investors to buy its debt have been overdone.&#039;”
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2ba5e8e6-2180-11df-830e-00144feab49a.html

So much for George Osborne with all his gloom and the imperative need for steep spending cuts this year regardless of the risk of a double-dip recession because of the weak Eurozone economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote from today&#8217;s FT:</p>
<p>&#8220;Steven Major, head of global fixed income research at HSBC, said: &#8216;The worries over the UK have receded because it is a strong economy with its own currency. Fears that the UK will lose its triple-A status and not be able to find investors to buy its debt have been overdone.&#8217;”<br />
<a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2ba5e8e6-2180-11df-830e-00144feab49a.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2ba5e8e6-2180-11df-830e-00144feab49a.html</a></p>
<p>So much for George Osborne with all his gloom and the imperative need for steep spending cuts this year regardless of the risk of a double-dip recession because of the weak Eurozone economy.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Osborne is clueless&#8230;..Darling is spinning out of control&#8230; &#171; Moments of Clarity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Conservative for a run on Sterling and a guaranteed double-dip. Sunny Hundal, writing on Liberal Conspiracy, need look no further for his explanation of the Conservatives poll free-fall. Osborne would [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Conservative for a run on Sterling and a guaranteed double-dip. Sunny Hundal, writing on Liberal Conspiracy, need look no further for his explanation of the Conservatives poll free-fall. Osborne would [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sally</title>
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		<dc:creator>sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call me Dave was fine as long as he was the new, even greener the green, loves the NHS, hates  bankers,  new man, but that did not play well with his base.

So he  has  have started to show his  real colours over the last few months, and boy it ain&#039;t pretty.   Funny thing is it plays well with the base.  

I still think he will win because people hate Brown.  But it would be funny if he does not win because it will go down as the one  of biggest political failures in history considerring all the advantages he has had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call me Dave was fine as long as he was the new, even greener the green, loves the NHS, hates  bankers,  new man, but that did not play well with his base.</p>
<p>So he  has  have started to show his  real colours over the last few months, and boy it ain&#8217;t pretty.   Funny thing is it plays well with the base.  </p>
<p>I still think he will win because people hate Brown.  But it would be funny if he does not win because it will go down as the one  of biggest political failures in history considerring all the advantages he has had.</p>
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