Gah! EVOEL has scraped into the top 5. The problem with the POWER voting thing is that they’re not presented fully.

EVOEL is a consitutional abomination that looks for a solution to the wrong problem, and creates so many issues it’s silly. And I’ve already voted for everything else in the top 6.

I agree with you MatGB, EVoEL is a constitutional abomination. But it should be in there because the territorial, national, question needs to be discussed. There’s no point building a constitution and ignoring the English Question and the nationalist equilibrium.

You should vote for EVoEL to ensure that the English Question is discussed.

There’s no chance of EVoEL being adopted because, as you say, it is unworkable.

I’d rather Written Constitution got in, to write a consititution, you’d have to have a full Convention (which I was very pleased to help make Lib Dem policy), and in that, all issues, including England would have to be discussed.

An unworkable proposal is not something I can in any conscience campaign for or ask a candidate to back, so far better to have two issues I feel strongly would be very useful, one of which effectively encompases the other anyway.

Fair enough. I didn’t vote for a proportional representation, a written constitution or a fully elected second chamber on a similar basis. I don’t want a written constitution unless it is for a federal Uk where sovereignty lies with the nations, I want proportional representation for an English parliament, and a fullt elected second chamber will simply replicate the West Lothian problem in the upper chamber.

I did however support “Scrap ID cards and roll back the database state”, “Right to recall” and “Expand the Freedom of Information Act” because there is no territorial dimension to those.

I still dont understand why ID cards are there on the list. I thought this was about reforming how politics was done, rather than individual policies? If we can have ID cards there, we could have climate change, or nuclear power or something.

Roberto – ID cards and state databases are about the transformation of the state – its modernisation in a hi-tech authoritarian direction – and its relationship to the citizen and are therefore fundamental to our democratic rights. That’s why the decision was taken to include that reform.

Guy, Power2010