And there’s some thing wrong with that?

Science can now show how we all moved out of Africa and are related. This debunks the idea of racial purity. Why is that a bad thing? And can we please have a discussion instead of of a punch-up?

“Many of us have Mongol blood. I read account about 25% of the so called white population”

Where do you people get this stuff from?..you realise you’re talking complete shite? As long as people can spout crap like “she had a whole lot of Asian and Indian in her”, race can’t ever disappear as an issue..did their genes have little turbans on and open corner shops..FFS either shut up or read up.

“They were trying to see the world from his perspective in a non-judgemental way”
And that’s a valid perspective, is it? God forbid that anyone should be “judgemental” about the RACIST, FASCIST National Front or British National Party, who are so tolerant themselves!

“Nothing positive… about far right politics was said”
Except by Kieran himself & his friends, who spoke of “racial purity,” “racial mixing,” the supposed “genocide” of whites, & described non-whites as “filth flooding through our streets.” All of which went completely unchallenged. (Did you read the above article before commenting on it?)

The real question here is why Channel 4 decided to make a “non-judgemental” documentary specifically about an organiser for the NF.

Also, I really object to the title. “Young” + “angry” + “white” does not automatically = racist. Why does the corporate & state media insist on promoting the BNP et al as representatives of “white working class” “anger?” Is this a deliberate policy of divide & rule, or are they just stupid & opportunuist?

http://www.thingsyoudontneedtoknow.com/dnabananas.html

On my mother’s side, obviously.

I got the wrong end of the stick with your first comment, it sounded like you advocated some form of coarse bullying, which I realise now was not your position at all.

Exactly, we should be helping him, and others like him, understand his true genetic heritage.

More to the point, those assualting the far right’s view of racial purity by citing DNA are making the same mistake, assuming race is a purely biological function. But I am biologically Scottish, Borderer and Midlander, as well as definetly Huguenout and probably Irish and Welsh. So can I be English? Well, yes. Easily, because I can identify as such (I don’t – I’m British personally).

One can not reach conscensus on any discussions on such things via the web so this is posted simply so you know those of you who think that C4 programme on Engisness was so great just what was the real agenda behind it and as we post the national police data base is being used via that test to draw up “ethnic” DNA classifications, linking “ethnic” DNA compositions to phsyical features and to engage in ethnic/DNA criminal profiling. Above all C4 in its programme declared that Englishness could be scientifically determined and the person who statisfied that test the most was Tebbit, on ya bike, cricket test Tebbit.

In the long run which is more threatening a government approved DNA race purityand determination test or a England sports lover’s cricket test.

I agree that compassion is needed for many of these angry young men and women who feel let down and some sort of education and a place of pride in society would go a long way. What was great about the Graham-Dixon programme was that he didn’t have to lecture them — he allowed the evidence to do the talking with the results as outlined above.

It was on channel 4, hence the assumption is that the viewer, being reasonably well informed, *already knows* what the BNP/NF are about. I think the programme deliberately tried to get away from “oh he’s a racist, what a nasty person” patronising style that these programmes normally adopt, especially when done by the BBC.

They were trying to see the world from his perspective in a non-judgemental way. I think they succeded and he came across as lonely, isolated and angry.

Nothing positive (or admittedly negative) about far right politics was said and I certainly did not see it as “little more than a half-hour party political broadcast for the National Front.”

I’d like to see Kieran treated like a young man in need of advice, rather than as some kind of liberal pinata.

Surely his NF membership could equally be either cause or consequence of his beliefs. It doesn’t prejudice or invalidate his story either way, and claiming otherwise is not something I’d advocate.

The only way to confront dogmatic hatred of this sort is to take a compassionate look at the people keeping it alive. We need to know why people find comfort in the idea of a racially pure society, and we can’t do that without getting to know those people’s lives.