Comments on: Stats authority rebukes Grayling as “misleading”

By: sunny hundal

sunny hundal — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:27:35 +0000

Hah! Chris Grayling is giving a sermon on abuse of statistics. Selective amnesia? http://bit.ly/cKBbLQ

By: unslugged

unslugged — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:51:21 +0000

Oh, the irony > RT @pickledpolitics: Hah! Chris Grayling is giving a sermon on abuse of statistics. Selective amnesia? http://bit.ly/cKBbLQ

By: Unity

Unity — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:30:43 +0000

RT @pickledpolitics: Hah! Chris Grayling is giving a sermon on abuse of statistics. Selective amnesia? http://bit.ly/cKBbLQ – No, thick Tory

By: Liberal Conspiracy » Economist trashes Tory ‘broken Britain’ narrative

Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:02:23 +0000

[...] the UK Statistics Authority’s Sir Michael Scholar had to step in, and his own colleague Iain Duncan Smith said using the statistics in such a way was [...]

By: sanbikinoraion

sanbikinoraion — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 23:09:57 +0000

Freedom of speech is one thing but flagrantly lying to the public is exactly the sort of thing that should have Grayling up on charges of electoral fraud of some description. It’s abundantly clear that he is lying through his back teeth, and the public should be protected from such words coming from an elected politician.

By: Chris

Chris — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 09:35:26 +0000

It’s the same as the thing about rising high street prices. I sat through an hours programme with some family a year or two ago all about how prices on most goods have actually fallen over the past few decades. At the end of the programme consesus in the room was basically, ‘I don’t care what it says I want to believe prices have gone up’. And a whole slagging session kicked of about this and that product that had gone up when the programme had categorically shown those same things had dropped in price. Some things people just seem to need to think have got worse.

By: uberVU - social comments

uberVU - social comments — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 09:18:42 +0000

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By: Gareth Winchester

Gareth Winchester — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 09:15:45 +0000

RT @libcon Stats authority publicly rebukes Chris Grayling; says he's “misleading”! http://bit.ly/a1FYsz <- Note to MPs: take a stats course

By: unslugged

unslugged — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:17:03 +0000

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By: John Hyder-Wilson

John Hyder-Wilson — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:05:17 +0000

It’s truly outrageous and deeply cynical that he continues to peddle the broken record on ‘rising violent crime’ when he knows the opposite is actually the case.

He knows that many British people strongly believe – despite all evidence to the contrary – that violent crime is still rising and thinks that the Tories (as usual) can capitalise on this. Sadly, he’s probably right.

Why is this myth such a pervasive one?

By: Richard W

Richard W — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:33:03 +0000

Grayling is just using the same tactic as the US right-wing lie machine. He does not care if he is called out for the distortion. The intention is to get the lie out there and hope few pay any attention to the rebuttal.

By: Unity

Unity — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:30:18 +0000

Let’s not forget that Grayling’s immediate predecessor, Dominic Grieve, criticised the British Crime Survey in the Telegraph for failing to record homicides.

It would be a hell of a feat if it did record homicides, given that its a self-reporting victimisation survey and could record data on homicides only the if victim succeeded in completing the questionnaire.

By: Tom

Tom — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:08:27 +0000

@MikeSC

Hear hear… when the collection methods are representative and when used in context statistics are invaluable. The kind of shenanigans Grayling tried to pull, as pointed out by Michael Scholar, are the very reason we get comments like that.

By: MikeSC

MikeSC — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:02:23 +0000

It’s sad to see comments all over the place, on the BBC website for instance, talking about how “statistics can’t be trusted anyway”.

The lesson is not that statistics mean nothing, it’s that they are useful if they’re clearly presented. Grayling taking two incomparable statistics and attempting to compare them being wrong doesn’t mean those statistics are useless when used appropriately.

By: Liberal Conspiracy

Liberal Conspiracy — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:40:31 +0000

Stats authority publicly rebukes Chris Grayling; says he is "misleading"! http://bit.ly/cKBbLQ

By: RupertRead

RupertRead — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 07:48:00 +0000

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By: Chris Paul

Chris Paul — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:46:19 +0000

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By: sunny hundal

sunny hundal — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:45:23 +0000

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