Thanks for your contribution. I am quite happy to learn about things of which I was ignorant.

Rod Liddle is still a twat, however. But now I will not assert that he beat his girlfriend, nor that he was arrested for it.

It was a legal digression, but quite interesting; the main point is that this is a bigotted twat who parades ignorance as wit – as such, he shouldn’t really be editor of a liberal, broadsheet newspaper.

Thanks for your contribution.
Some people are so entrenched that they behave rudely which is a bit off-putting as they seem to come to cheer and jeer rather than discuss. But don’t let that put you off – if you can be bothered.

Off now. Have a nice weekend all of you.

You are correct, it also avoid a lot of bureaucracy and expense in a court case.

You don’t have to accept a caution, I didn’t once as juvenile (when I borrowed another kid’s bike & ran off to his Mum saying I’d nicked his bike), though this does leave you open to being charged and going to court (police just dropped it in my case).

Also police can issue a warning, which is just that, informal and doesn’t constitute a criminal record,or acceptance that an offence has been committed.

They come and shit all over the place, and then whine when they get called on it.

Nobody here is interested in your so called legal opinions. And nobody here with any sense believes that you want to help Sunny.

Or have you just resorted straight to playground name-calling and attempted to exclude new voices from the debate?

I’ve been following this place for a little while as I know some contributors and was intrigued to see what the place was about. So far some stuff has been quite interesting, but some stuff – this Liddle thing in particular – is like Famous Five Plays Politics. I thought I’d chip in a bit of advice, given that I have more than a slight familiarity with the law and with journalism, and have been quite bemused by the perhaps predictable response. Has certainly given me a better picture of the level of debate here.

If you are unable to understand what people are saying please desist from calling them trolls. It’s lazy + aggressive and it merely lowers the tone of the conversation.

Thank you.

“I came on here and tried to be an arrogant twat, got called on it, and then whined all the way home about civility”

Normal troll behaviour. So boring.

“I only accepted the caution to get out of the police station” exhudes self justification and a miasma of bullshit.

My strong suspicion is that cautions are offered by the police because they don’t think they can make a charge stick or they can’t be bothered to try. Oh yes and it’s good for the clear up stats.

My other strong suspicion is that cautions are generally accepted to “get out of the police station”. At the time, few reflect on the potential consequences of the conviction .

“Yeah, trying to cure someone of their complete ignorance of libel law is just coded support for racism. Of course. That’s it. Nothing to do with actually trying to make the argument more watertight.”

But no on here asked for your so called knowledge of libel law troll, and I bet Sunny did not ask for it. So all you are doing is stinking the place out as usual.

I’m sure if Sunny wants a laywer he will get one, but it won’t be you. He will want one he can trust.

Can we have that again in English and coherent this time please.

But, resorting to threats of libel to shut down debate does not, a good journalist make. (which is why I was most unhappy when Marr got such a prestigious program).

Liddle has lost the support of this one.

Their concern for Sunny is very touching. “Be careful Sunny , blah ,blah ,blah”

Concern trolling of the worst sort. But they have no other choice unless they come out and support this piece of human shit.

Anyhows Sunny, even if he did and says it “went beyond fair comment” you can reply “OK it was vulgar abuse” *TAPS NOSE*

If you’re reading this Liddle, coming to you from a council flat in narf Landhan you faux-prole, racist tosser.

“But Liddle is making legal threats on the basis that calling him a racist etc was also beyond fair comment.”

Since when does warning someone that they are making defamatory comments constitute a legal threat? He didn’t say that he intends to take legal action did he?

Really, there’s enough information for you to run with this story without ‘sexing it up’.

If you believe it is fair comment (as you do, with some possible justification) then let him threaten. I would think the time to act is if he does take action, not if he makes indirect threats about it.