Comments on: Grayling slammed by IDS: ‘profoundly misleading’ http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/ Left-wing news, opinion and activism Sat, 26 May 2012 03:04:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: sunny hundal http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-152005 sunny hundal Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:00:34 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-152005 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@PolFromTheSL yes, and they actually made the stats more streamlined - http://bit.ly/cjeBe1</span></span> @PolFromTheSL yes, and they actually made the stats more streamlined – http://bit.ly/cjeBe1

]]> By: Liberal Conspiracy » Desperate Tories go for immigration ‘dog-whistle’ http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-109125 Liberal Conspiracy » Desperate Tories go for immigration ‘dog-whistle’ Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:25:07 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-109125 [...] doubt Chris Grayling will be trotted out next to say how much crime has risen under [...] [...] doubt Chris Grayling will be trotted out next to say how much crime has risen under [...]

]]> By: Swedish Schools: Show me the market! « Left Outside http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-103759 Swedish Schools: Show me the market! « Left Outside Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:04:37 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-103759 [...] Schools: Show me the market! Its nice to see the Tories screw up (again), but it is distressing to see fail what may have been a promising avenue for reforming [...] [...] Schools: Show me the market! Its nice to see the Tories screw up (again), but it is distressing to see fail what may have been a promising avenue for reforming [...]

]]> By: Liberal Conspiracy » The Economist trashes Tory ‘broken Britain’ narrative http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-103173 Liberal Conspiracy » The Economist trashes Tory ‘broken Britain’ narrative Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:31:16 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-103173 [...] week shadow home secretary Chris Grayling was comprehensively debunked by BBC reporting when he said that crime had risen massively under New [...] [...] week shadow home secretary Chris Grayling was comprehensively debunked by BBC reporting when he said that crime had risen massively under New [...]

]]> By: Liberal Conspiracy » Stats authority publicly rebukes Chris Grayling; says he is “misleading”! http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-102354 Liberal Conspiracy » Stats authority publicly rebukes Chris Grayling; says he is “misleading”! Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:40:37 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-102354 [...]   February 4, 2010 at 2:40 pm We revealed yesterday how Tory home secretary Chris Grayling was using misleading data to conjure up visions of a “Broken Society” when the data flatly contradicted [...] [...]   February 4, 2010 at 2:40 pm We revealed yesterday how Tory home secretary Chris Grayling was using misleading data to conjure up visions of a “Broken Society” when the data flatly contradicted [...]

]]> By: Sevillista http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-102152 Sevillista Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:43:36 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-102152 @rparker "figures are manipulated down as police dont respond to help calls now a lot of people dont bother as for burglary" Where is your evidence that people are less likely to report burglary? Academic study please - 'cos Cameron/the right-wing press/the guy in the pub said so doesn't cut it. And if you are concerned with the flaws of data on reported crime (as am I - a lot of factors affect reported crime other than the actual crime rate, including police attitudes, dictate on the categorisation of crime, likelihood of prosecution, insurance company procedures etc), why not look at a measure not susceptible to such fiddling and changes in people's behaviour - British Crime Survey. I'm sure that this will confirm your instincts won't it - the BCS is sure to show a dramatic rise in crime post-1997 as Blair and Brown broke Britain through their crazy, evil and perverse socialistic ways. Can anyone help rparker out by showing me what the BCS says? Like I said - I'm sure he is right. The Conservative and the Mail wouldn't be bullshitting about rises in crime would they now? @rparker

“figures are manipulated down as police dont respond to help calls now a lot of people dont bother as for burglary”

Where is your evidence that people are less likely to report burglary? Academic study please – ‘cos Cameron/the right-wing press/the guy in the pub said so doesn’t cut it.

And if you are concerned with the flaws of data on reported crime (as am I – a lot of factors affect reported crime other than the actual crime rate, including
police attitudes, dictate on the categorisation of crime, likelihood of prosecution, insurance company procedures etc), why not look at a measure not susceptible to such fiddling and changes in people’s behaviour – British Crime Survey.

I’m sure that this will confirm your instincts won’t it – the BCS is sure to show a dramatic rise in crime post-1997 as Blair and Brown broke Britain through their crazy, evil and perverse socialistic ways.

Can anyone help rparker out by showing me what the BCS says? Like I said – I’m sure he is right. The Conservative and the Mail wouldn’t be bullshitting about rises in crime would they now?

]]> By: rparker http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-102138 rparker Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:16:26 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-102138 figures are manipulated down as police dont respond to help calls now a lot of people dont bother as for burglary for get it maipulation this is this governments middle name tell the truth for o nce inyour shameful lives this the part of aprehension not aspiration figures are manipulated down as police dont respond to help calls now a lot of people dont bother as for burglary for get it maipulation this is this governments middle name tell the truth for o nce inyour shameful lives this the part of aprehension not aspiration

]]> By: Ellie Gellard http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-102125 Ellie Gellard Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:13:25 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-102125 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Even IDS is condemning Chris -Broken Britain- Grayling's stat manipulation. Gd work from @libcon http://tinyurl.com/yhqf4ku</span></span> Even IDS is condemning Chris -Broken Britain- Grayling's stat manipulation. Gd work from @libcon http://tinyurl.com/yhqf4ku

]]> By: Karen Hanna Kruzycka http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-102120 Karen Hanna Kruzycka Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:04:19 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-102120 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @libcon: Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by IDS! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1</span></span> RT @libcon: Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by IDS! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1

]]> By: David Wright MP http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-102121 David Wright MP Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:04:00 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-102121 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by IDS! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1</span></span> Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by IDS! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1

]]> By: Jonathan Taylor http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-102115 Jonathan Taylor Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:58:00 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-102115 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @BenCooper86: RT @libcon: Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by IDS! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1</span></span> RT @BenCooper86: RT @libcon: Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by IDS! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1

]]> By: uberVU - social comments http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-102097 uberVU - social comments Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:55:30 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-102097 <strong>Social comments and analytics for this post...</strong> This post was mentioned on Twitter by libcon: Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by IDS! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1... Social comments and analytics for this post…

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]]> By: James Graham http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-102096 James Graham Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:54:55 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-102096 “98% increase in serious violent crime” - 68% actually. “98% increase in serious violent crime” – 68% actually.

]]> By: novocastrianrob http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-102105 novocastrianrob Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:52:34 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-102105 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @libcon: Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by IDS! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1</span></span> RT @libcon: Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by IDS! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1

]]> By: Stuart Pearce http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-102106 Stuart Pearce Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:51:36 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-102106 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @pickledpolitics: Bizarre no one's noticed this: 'Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by Iain Duncan Smith! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1</span></span> RT @pickledpolitics: Bizarre no one's noticed this: 'Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by Iain Duncan Smith! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1

]]> By: Chris Paul http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-102107 Chris Paul Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:51:33 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-102107 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @pickledpolitics: Bizarre no one's noticed this: 'Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by Iain Duncan Smith! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1</span></span> RT @pickledpolitics: Bizarre no one's noticed this: 'Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by Iain Duncan Smith! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1

]]> By: Ben Cooper http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-102108 Ben Cooper Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:50:55 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-102108 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @pickledpolitics: Bizarre no one's noticed this: 'Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by Iain Duncan Smith! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1</span></span> RT @pickledpolitics: Bizarre no one's noticed this: 'Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by Iain Duncan Smith! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1

]]> By: Andrew Gwynne http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-102109 Andrew Gwynne Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:50:51 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-102109 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @libcon: Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by IDS! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1</span></span> RT @libcon: Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by IDS! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1

]]> By: Ben Cooper http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-102110 Ben Cooper Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:50:50 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-102110 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @libcon: Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by IDS! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1</span></span> RT @libcon: Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by IDS! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1

]]> By: sunny hundal http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-102099 sunny hundal Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:50:06 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-102099 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Bizarre no one's noticed this: 'Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by Iain Duncan Smith! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1</span></span> Bizarre no one's noticed this: 'Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by Iain Duncan Smith! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1

]]> By: Ellie Gellard http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-102100 Ellie Gellard Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:49:11 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-102100 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @libcon: Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by IDS! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1</span></span> RT @libcon: Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by IDS! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1

]]> By: Liberal Conspiracy http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-102101 Liberal Conspiracy Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:48:23 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-102101 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by IDS! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1</span></span> Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by IDS! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1

]]> By: Matthew Dear http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-102134 Matthew Dear Wed, 03 Feb 2010 09:50:30 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-102134 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @BevaniteEllie: RT @libcon: Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by IDS! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1</span></span> RT @BevaniteEllie: RT @libcon: Grayling slammed as "profoundly misleading" by IDS! http://bit.ly/cjeBe1

]]> By: lornaspenceley http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-102133 lornaspenceley Wed, 03 Feb 2010 09:40:42 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-102133 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Chris Grayling makes another complete cods of a Tory press offensive http://tinyurl.com/yhqf4ku Is 'Grayling' cockney rhyming slang perhaps?</span></span> Chris Grayling makes another complete cods of a Tory press offensive http://tinyurl.com/yhqf4ku Is 'Grayling' cockney rhyming slang perhaps?

]]> By: Bryony Victoria King http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/02/03/grayling-slammed-as-profoundly-misleading-by-ids/#comment-102128 Bryony Victoria King Wed, 03 Feb 2010 09:18:54 +0000 http://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=11150#comment-102128 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @BevaniteEllie: Even IDS is condemning Chris -Broken Britain- Grayling's stat manipulation. Gd work from @libcon http://tinyurl.com/yhqf4ku</span></span> RT @BevaniteEllie: Even IDS is condemning Chris -Broken Britain- Grayling's stat manipulation. Gd work from @libcon http://tinyurl.com/yhqf4ku

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