Sunny, I’d be interested to know what you think of that Millwall website.
That is the kind of culture that has existed down there for decades.
It was a club mostly supported by dockers at one time, and many of the club’s supporters are their descendants, so the language and the opinions were always going to be coarse.
(But I agree that some of the comments on it – his and other people’s – are pretty appalling).

His one’s though about Auswitch, were I think taken out of context.
As were perhaps the ”spear chucking” comments. Those words were said to have been said to a black footballer on the field by another player, and Liddle was commenting on this confrontation.

If the Independent become a free newspaper it’s circulation will soar, so it will be interesting to see how it will change whoever edits it.

It was a club mostly supported by dockers at one time, and many of the club’s supporters are their descendants, so the language and the opinions were always going to be coarse.

Bit snobbish that, isn’t it

My wifes’s dad was a docker and I’ve never heard her say anything coarse.

Fair point flowerpower. But the Milwall fans have always been just that bit different to the fans of many other clubs. I come from just nearby in south London and we don’t speak the same way as many of them do, with their exaggerated south London accents.
And that maybe the point with Millwall. It’s all a display and a lot of front.
A lot of these guys no longer live in the New Cross area, but further out into places like Dartford and Bromley (they have a thread on it somewhere on that site asking where most ”Wall” live these days) and most of them were miles away from the ground. But to go to their matches, or see them turn up at your own club’s ground, they sound pure Bermondsey (1965).

When ever I’ve heard them, or seen them swagger into ”our” pubs and take them over before a match, I’ve watched them with a bit of mirth (and contempt) as it seemed obvious that they were so far up their own backsides with this idea that they were ‘Millwall’ and somehow really special and how no one should mess with them etc. It was all obviously a front. An act. (The Millwall myth so to speak).
And this website (Milwall online) is a continuation of that daft fantasy world.

One of the reasons for their really dodgy views (which aren’t always heartfelt I think, because its a bit of an arena, just like it it at their matches) is that they probably feel somewhat emasculated and alienated by the modern society.
They’ve been pushed out and had to move on, but still feel nostalgia for the old days. You can perhaps get a sense of it here when they talk of someone’s 100 year old grandad (from Peckham) passing away and how it was written up in the South London Press.
http://www.millwall.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=41316&start=1

So they think back to how Peckham would have been in this man’s younger years and compare how it is today. (Hence I think some of the bitterness and racist comments). And how (in them days) they didn’t have the likes of Liberal Conspiricy ”eavesdropping” on them.

They did notice an upsurge in online viewers to their site over a few of days and commented that it was probably journalist $#&* spying on them.

After that was over, a new thread was started titled ”Now we’re back to normal” which I found quite funny. (monkeymfc makes a comment).
http://www.millwall.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=41383&start=1

Why do they support right-wing parties which are cheerleaders for neoliberalism and Thatcherism if they value the way of life their grandfathers have?

I’d like to know which Asian it was that threw millions of skilled workers on the dole. I’d like to know which asylum seeker was awarded £5 billion by the taxpayer like the scum at Lloyds TSB.

Exactly.

I have no idea what parties they support david brough. They are class conscious from what I’ve seen, only insofar as they mock the middle class, (and students).