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		<title>By: monkey town</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/01/22/goldsmith-also-goes-for-shameless-pandering/#comment-99681</link>
		<dc:creator>monkey town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He &quot;implicitly supports euthanasia&quot;. Why does this not surprise me? It&#039;s well known his uncle Teddy was a champion of conservation and organic farming. But I have sometimes wondered how his Dad&#039;s good friend John Aspinall might have influenced him. Aspinall was a thoroughly nasty piece of work, an extreme right winger who talked about coups to overthrow Labour goverments in the 1970s. He was also a kind of Malthusian conservationist who considered some animals to be superior to homo homo sapiens. He talked about euthanasia,or sterlisation and it was fairly obvious it was the &quot;lower orders&quot; in mind when he said this (shades of Keith Joseph). He expressed the wish that &quot;3.5 billion people should be wiped out&quot; of the world&#039;s population &quot;within the next 150-200 years&quot; mirroring the views of some extreme Greens. Looks like something of &quot;Aspers&quot; has worn off on Zak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He &#8220;implicitly supports euthanasia&#8221;. Why does this not surprise me? It&#8217;s well known his uncle Teddy was a champion of conservation and organic farming. But I have sometimes wondered how his Dad&#8217;s good friend John Aspinall might have influenced him. Aspinall was a thoroughly nasty piece of work, an extreme right winger who talked about coups to overthrow Labour goverments in the 1970s. He was also a kind of Malthusian conservationist who considered some animals to be superior to homo homo sapiens. He talked about euthanasia,or sterlisation and it was fairly obvious it was the &#8220;lower orders&#8221; in mind when he said this (shades of Keith Joseph). He expressed the wish that &#8220;3.5 billion people should be wiped out&#8221; of the world&#8217;s population &#8220;within the next 150-200 years&#8221; mirroring the views of some extreme Greens. Looks like something of &#8220;Aspers&#8221; has worn off on Zak.</p>
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		<title>By: skidmarx</title>
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		<dc:creator>skidmarx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unity - diminshed responsibility for someone who made two attempts to commit the offence with considerable planning and fourteen months between them? You might think that mitigating factors should lead to a lighter sentence, but a claim that she didn&#039;t know what she was doing is unjustified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unity &#8211; diminshed responsibility for someone who made two attempts to commit the offence with considerable planning and fourteen months between them? You might think that mitigating factors should lead to a lighter sentence, but a claim that she didn&#8217;t know what she was doing is unjustified.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick the Prick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dick the Prick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Unity - the Inglis case...phewee...no one wins in this. The connortations are mind boggling. I&#039;m hanging about to see if Archbishop Cranmer may post on it as it&#039;s definately one for his congregation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Unity &#8211; the Inglis case&#8230;phewee&#8230;no one wins in this. The connortations are mind boggling. I&#8217;m hanging about to see if Archbishop Cranmer may post on it as it&#8217;s definately one for his congregation.</p>
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		<title>By: Unity</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/01/22/goldsmith-also-goes-for-shameless-pandering/#comment-99492</link>
		<dc:creator>Unity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as this liberal commentator goes, I;d have started by reflecting on the facts.

The paedophile, Craig Sweeney, was given a tariff of 18 years for kidnapping and sexual assault, which means he could apply for parole after five years on account of his having co-operated with the police and entered a guilty plea.

Of course, to make parole after serving his minimum term, he also has to have behaved himself while inside and convince the parole board that he&#039;s not going to be a danger on release, and with two sexual assault convictions on his rap sheet that&#039;s going to be far from easy.

As for Frances Inglis - had I been on the jury in that case then I&#039;ve have been inclined, on what I&#039;ve read, to fight like buggery for a diminished responsibility verdict.

That said, I&#039;d also point out that its precisely because of all the whining about lenient sentences in cases such as Sweeney&#039;s that judges have been shafted with minimum sentences which prevent them exercising a bit of mercy, compassion and discretion in cases like that of Frances Inglis, and handing down a much lighter sentence.

Assuming that there&#039;s no evidence that she&#039;s a danger to the public at large, then this one of those rare instances where even a suspended sentence might have been justified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as this liberal commentator goes, I;d have started by reflecting on the facts.</p>
<p>The paedophile, Craig Sweeney, was given a tariff of 18 years for kidnapping and sexual assault, which means he could apply for parole after five years on account of his having co-operated with the police and entered a guilty plea.</p>
<p>Of course, to make parole after serving his minimum term, he also has to have behaved himself while inside and convince the parole board that he&#8217;s not going to be a danger on release, and with two sexual assault convictions on his rap sheet that&#8217;s going to be far from easy.</p>
<p>As for Frances Inglis &#8211; had I been on the jury in that case then I&#8217;ve have been inclined, on what I&#8217;ve read, to fight like buggery for a diminished responsibility verdict.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;d also point out that its precisely because of all the whining about lenient sentences in cases such as Sweeney&#8217;s that judges have been shafted with minimum sentences which prevent them exercising a bit of mercy, compassion and discretion in cases like that of Frances Inglis, and handing down a much lighter sentence.</p>
<p>Assuming that there&#8217;s no evidence that she&#8217;s a danger to the public at large, then this one of those rare instances where even a suspended sentence might have been justified.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberal Conspiracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberal Conspiracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 06:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Goldsmith also goes for shameless pandering http://bit.ly/4JbP2F&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Goldsmith also goes for shameless pandering <a href="http://bit.ly/4JbP2F" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/4JbP2F</a></span></span></span></p>
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