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		<title>By: Free andEasy</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/12/05/the-public-sector-rich-list/#comment-90856</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Best of Web December 5th &#124; www.the-vibe.co.uk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Best of Web December 5th &#124; www.the-vibe.co.uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ged Robinson</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ged Robinson</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/12/05/the-public-sector-rich-list/#comment-89262</link>
		<dc:creator>Ged Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;The public sector rich list, oh deary me.... #TPAFail #ToryFail http://bit.ly/8Yvahl&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">The public sector rich list, oh deary me&#8230;. #TPAFail #ToryFail <a href="http://bit.ly/8Yvahl" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/8Yvahl</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Nick Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Other TaxPayers Alli</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/12/05/the-public-sector-rich-list/#comment-89258</link>
		<dc:creator>Other TaxPayers Alli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 01:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Liberal Conspiracy » The public sector rich list: Liberal Conspiracy. :: The public sector rich list http://bit.ly... http://bit.ly/6Pt5KW&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: sally</title>
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		<dc:creator>sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These figures are of course complete tosh because they fail to include  all the farmers who pick up tax payers hand outs.

The Duke of Westminster or Prince Charles will be picking up a million Pounds for their farm subsidies.  Then of course there is all those weapons manufacturers who are all paid for by the state.  Funny the tax payers bullshit organisation don’t mention them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These figures are of course complete tosh because they fail to include  all the farmers who pick up tax payers hand outs.</p>
<p>The Duke of Westminster or Prince Charles will be picking up a million Pounds for their farm subsidies.  Then of course there is all those weapons manufacturers who are all paid for by the state.  Funny the tax payers bullshit organisation don’t mention them.</p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kate,

It depends what you are trying to prove, does it not? In any event, are the banks not supposed to be as asset that we will profit from in due course when the public share ownership is sold off to the private investor?

I&#039;d tend to agree with you that a lot of &#039;consultancies&#039; are little more than overpaid mercenaries. It would be interesting to know what percentage of their income accrued from the private sector -v- the public sector, but this is probably commercially confidential.

Arguably, a first step in correcting our Public Sector Borrowing Requirement would be to cancel all such contracts, and if necessary, employ suitably qualified individuals directly at the grossly deflated salaries they could then command. 

Must check if the Taxpayers Alliance has ever commented on this gross waste of taxpayers money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate,</p>
<p>It depends what you are trying to prove, does it not? In any event, are the banks not supposed to be as asset that we will profit from in due course when the public share ownership is sold off to the private investor?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d tend to agree with you that a lot of &#8216;consultancies&#8217; are little more than overpaid mercenaries. It would be interesting to know what percentage of their income accrued from the private sector -v- the public sector, but this is probably commercially confidential.</p>
<p>Arguably, a first step in correcting our Public Sector Borrowing Requirement would be to cancel all such contracts, and if necessary, employ suitably qualified individuals directly at the grossly deflated salaries they could then command. </p>
<p>Must check if the Taxpayers Alliance has ever commented on this gross waste of taxpayers money.</p>
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		<title>By: Shatterface</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/12/05/the-public-sector-rich-list/#comment-89032</link>
		<dc:creator>Shatterface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;The median income in this country is £25K. I think these figures make more sense when compared to that figure&#039;

That&#039;s about £10,000 more than the lowest paid Band B civil servants. 

God knows what Band A&#039;s are on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;The median income in this country is £25K. I think these figures make more sense when compared to that figure&#8217;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s about £10,000 more than the lowest paid Band B civil servants. </p>
<p>God knows what Band A&#8217;s are on.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Belgrave</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/12/05/the-public-sector-rich-list/#comment-89022</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Belgrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, I think we could pretty much be calling RBS the public sector, what with the lorryloads of public money that have been poured down that hole. I very much consider myself a shareholder in that bank. Might present myself at their next meeting. 

And let&#039;s not forget the piles of money that are shunted from the public purse to private pockets by way of public-private contracting as a matter of course. Jarvis, Capita, Balfour friggin whatsit, Deloittes, BT, Ayglisys, Bupa - that lot may claim to be private sector, but they bloody well are not. They take huge dosh from the public purse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I think we could pretty much be calling RBS the public sector, what with the lorryloads of public money that have been poured down that hole. I very much consider myself a shareholder in that bank. Might present myself at their next meeting. </p>
<p>And let&#8217;s not forget the piles of money that are shunted from the public purse to private pockets by way of public-private contracting as a matter of course. Jarvis, Capita, Balfour friggin whatsit, Deloittes, BT, Ayglisys, Bupa &#8211; that lot may claim to be private sector, but they bloody well are not. They take huge dosh from the public purse.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Blogger</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/12/05/the-public-sector-rich-list/#comment-89019</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The median income in this country is £25K. I think these figures make more sense when compared to that figure. I also think that the figures have little meaning when presented on their own, the private sector must be listed too. Oh and also organisations like TPA. I wonder where their executives appear in the list?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The median income in this country is £25K. I think these figures make more sense when compared to that figure. I also think that the figures have little meaning when presented on their own, the private sector must be listed too. Oh and also organisations like TPA. I wonder where their executives appear in the list?</p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article,

Just one question. What exactly is the status of the banks? The RBS still has shareholders apart from the government, circa 30%, I believe. It is also still quoted on the FTSE.

In other words are they not in a kind of limbo between public and private?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article,</p>
<p>Just one question. What exactly is the status of the banks? The RBS still has shareholders apart from the government, circa 30%, I believe. It is also still quoted on the FTSE.</p>
<p>In other words are they not in a kind of limbo between public and private?</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 10:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dick the Prick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dick the Prick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 10:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a bit of a disgrace though and sure, there should be some comparative data for private sector staff who are reliant on public sector business. However, as per Heather - I worked in community safety for ages and the ratchet up of &#039;managerial&#039; staff to over £50k was disgusting. Public sector wages are very much reliant on an hierarchial structure in that it&#039;s not the work that gets paid for but a vague theory of supervisory responsibility. There was only 1 chap who could manage me - and fair enough, he got paid twice as much as me - but after him no bugger knew what or how we did our stuff which ended in the ridiculous situation of a complete amateur managing us who knew as much as the geezer at the end of the bar.

 The elephant in the room is that all these CEO&#039;s in local government can blame the Leader of the council for all mistakes - whereas they get a normal wage. My Leader (who&#039;s the dog&#039;s bollox) gets about £30k whereas the town clerk gets £150 and is a bloody waste of space. Quangoes - well, how accountable are they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a bit of a disgrace though and sure, there should be some comparative data for private sector staff who are reliant on public sector business. However, as per Heather &#8211; I worked in community safety for ages and the ratchet up of &#8216;managerial&#8217; staff to over £50k was disgusting. Public sector wages are very much reliant on an hierarchial structure in that it&#8217;s not the work that gets paid for but a vague theory of supervisory responsibility. There was only 1 chap who could manage me &#8211; and fair enough, he got paid twice as much as me &#8211; but after him no bugger knew what or how we did our stuff which ended in the ridiculous situation of a complete amateur managing us who knew as much as the geezer at the end of the bar.</p>
<p> The elephant in the room is that all these CEO&#8217;s in local government can blame the Leader of the council for all mistakes &#8211; whereas they get a normal wage. My Leader (who&#8217;s the dog&#8217;s bollox) gets about £30k whereas the town clerk gets £150 and is a bloody waste of space. Quangoes &#8211; well, how accountable are they?</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Belgrave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Belgrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 09:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superb piece of writing.

I agree that the issue is the disparity in the hierarchy in the public sector. At one of the councils I worked at, the number of people earning more than £50,000 a year nearly tripled in three years - while the number of housing officers, etc (the people engaged in the important work on the service desk) was cut incrementally. 

The issue of outsourcing of low paid workers is a disgrace - already low paid workers have their weekend enhancements cut, their annual leave and sick leave taken from them and are forced to work more shifts just to make ends meet. It goes without saying that they provide a lesser service as a result. The public sector is much needed, but not in this form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superb piece of writing.</p>
<p>I agree that the issue is the disparity in the hierarchy in the public sector. At one of the councils I worked at, the number of people earning more than £50,000 a year nearly tripled in three years &#8211; while the number of housing officers, etc (the people engaged in the important work on the service desk) was cut incrementally. </p>
<p>The issue of outsourcing of low paid workers is a disgrace &#8211; already low paid workers have their weekend enhancements cut, their annual leave and sick leave taken from them and are forced to work more shifts just to make ends meet. It goes without saying that they provide a lesser service as a result. The public sector is much needed, but not in this form.</p>
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		<title>By: Tricia White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tricia White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 02:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Liberal Conspiracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberal Conspiracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 00:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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