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		<title>By: organic cheeseboard</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/12/01/cameron-apologies-to-mps-for-getting-his-facts-wrong/#comment-88196</link>
		<dc:creator>organic cheeseboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the right doesn&#039;t care about HuT prospectively running schools either. The attack on labour was one on the PVE scheme. no follow up questions this week. and there won&#039;t be any in future. 

Under Gove and Cameron&#039;s plans for school vouchers etc it will be far, far easier for HuT types to set up a school in a far more direct way. They say they&#039;ll ban HuT but they probably won&#039;t - if they did they&#039;d have to ban scores of other organisations.

the tories are massively in favour of faith schools, extreme or otherwise - both Cameron and gove send their children to faith schools. If you think Cameron brought this up becaues of a passion for faithless schools or even because of a commitment ot govt money not going to religious types ith dodgy views, you&#039;re barking. 

At least they&#039;ll now think twice before recycling dodgy info from the Islamophobic &#039;think tank&#039; the CSC, the source of the error, which has got to be a good thing for this country in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the right doesn&#8217;t care about HuT prospectively running schools either. The attack on labour was one on the PVE scheme. no follow up questions this week. and there won&#8217;t be any in future. </p>
<p>Under Gove and Cameron&#8217;s plans for school vouchers etc it will be far, far easier for HuT types to set up a school in a far more direct way. They say they&#8217;ll ban HuT but they probably won&#8217;t &#8211; if they did they&#8217;d have to ban scores of other organisations.</p>
<p>the tories are massively in favour of faith schools, extreme or otherwise &#8211; both Cameron and gove send their children to faith schools. If you think Cameron brought this up becaues of a passion for faithless schools or even because of a commitment ot govt money not going to religious types ith dodgy views, you&#8217;re barking. </p>
<p>At least they&#8217;ll now think twice before recycling dodgy info from the Islamophobic &#8216;think tank&#8217; the CSC, the source of the error, which has got to be a good thing for this country in general.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/12/01/cameron-apologies-to-mps-for-getting-his-facts-wrong/#comment-88093</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes, &quot;linked to&quot;, the favourite catchphrase of the smear merchant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, &#8220;linked to&#8221;, the favourite catchphrase of the smear merchant.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/12/01/cameron-apologies-to-mps-for-getting-his-facts-wrong/#comment-88087</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the central issue of taxpayers money being used to fund organisations like Hizb-tu-Tahrir is, of course, lost in all this.  Sure he got the name of the fund wrong, a mistake that should not have happened, but the voters that give a damn about the future of this country will still understand that their money goes to fund those that support the dismantling of our political culture.

Why does the Left not seem to care?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the central issue of taxpayers money being used to fund organisations like Hizb-tu-Tahrir is, of course, lost in all this.  Sure he got the name of the fund wrong, a mistake that should not have happened, but the voters that give a damn about the future of this country will still understand that their money goes to fund those that support the dismantling of our political culture.</p>
<p>Why does the Left not seem to care?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/12/01/cameron-apologies-to-mps-for-getting-his-facts-wrong/#comment-88031</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 11:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hizb ut-Tahrir, which is not banned in the UK, denies links to terrorism and says it opposes violence. 

&quot;The Conservatives have said they will ban the organisation if they win power.&quot;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8387063.stm

That straightens out the position of the Conservatives except that I think we should know how many other organisations the Conservatives intend to ban.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hizb ut-Tahrir, which is not banned in the UK, denies links to terrorism and says it opposes violence. </p>
<p>&#8220;The Conservatives have said they will ban the organisation if they win power.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8387063.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8387063.stm</a></p>
<p>That straightens out the position of the Conservatives except that I think we should know how many other organisations the Conservatives intend to ban.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 09:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;At prime ministers’ questions last week, he said the schools had received funds from a government Pathfinder fund aimed at combating violent extremism. 

But it later emerged the money had come from a different government fund. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, that&#039;s all right then!  Trebles all round!  You don&#039;t think that the thrust of the story was more &#039;Government giving money to schools linked to Hizb-ut-Tahrir&#039; rather than &#039;from a specific fund&#039;?  Seriously, as a killer argument &#039;you got the wrong pathfinder scheme&#039; is beyond feeble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>At prime ministers’ questions last week, he said the schools had received funds from a government Pathfinder fund aimed at combating violent extremism. </p>
<p>But it later emerged the money had come from a different government fund. </p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, that&#8217;s all right then!  Trebles all round!  You don&#8217;t think that the thrust of the story was more &#8216;Government giving money to schools linked to Hizb-ut-Tahrir&#8217; rather than &#8216;from a specific fund&#8217;?  Seriously, as a killer argument &#8216;you got the wrong pathfinder scheme&#8217; is beyond feeble.</p>
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		<title>By: cjcjc</title>
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		<dc:creator>cjcjc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s not worry about the substantive issue, eh?

http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/11/30/ed-balls-is-not-fit-to-be-secretary-of-state-for-schools/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not worry about the substantive issue, eh?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/11/30/ed-balls-is-not-fit-to-be-secretary-of-state-for-schools/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/11/30/ed-balls-is-not-fit-to-be-secretary-of-state-for-schools/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 06:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget that dependable adage for the aspiring journalist: Never let the facts get in the way of a good story line.

I wonder what were the contributions to this debacle of Andy Coulson, Conservative director of communications, previously editor of the News of the World, and Michael Gove, shadow education minister. It&#039;s difficult to believe that Cameron was making the running on his own initiative all alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget that dependable adage for the aspiring journalist: Never let the facts get in the way of a good story line.</p>
<p>I wonder what were the contributions to this debacle of Andy Coulson, Conservative director of communications, previously editor of the News of the World, and Michael Gove, shadow education minister. It&#8217;s difficult to believe that Cameron was making the running on his own initiative all alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Liberal Conspiracy » Cameron apologies to MPs for getting his facts wrong -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Liberal Conspiracy » Cameron apologies to MPs for getting his facts wrong -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Rob Watson, Liberal Conspiracy. Liberal Conspiracy said: :: Cameron apologies to MPs for getting his facts wrong http://bit.ly/8eQNv6 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: diogenes1960</title>
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		<dc:creator>diogenes1960</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at least Cameron apologised... a display of values that no one on the Government benches could live up to...(just try to imagine Brown apologising for something he himself had got wrong rather than someone 500 years ago!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at least Cameron apologised&#8230; a display of values that no one on the Government benches could live up to&#8230;(just try to imagine Brown apologising for something he himself had got wrong rather than someone 500 years ago!)</p>
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		<title>By: David Mann</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Mann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Cameron needs to be doing some more backtracking on this. Look at what the Tory boys up north are up to: http://northofwestminster.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/tories-north-south-hizb-ut-tahrir-divide-call-for-their-banning-in-the-south-promote-them-in-the-north/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Cameron needs to be doing some more backtracking on this. Look at what the Tory boys up north are up to: <a href="http://northofwestminster.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/tories-north-south-hizb-ut-tahrir-divide-call-for-their-banning-in-the-south-promote-them-in-the-north/" rel="nofollow">http://northofwestminster.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/tories-north-south-hizb-ut-tahrir-divide-call-for-their-banning-in-the-south-promote-them-in-the-north/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Hoffmann-Gill</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/12/01/cameron-apologies-to-mps-for-getting-his-facts-wrong/#comment-87785</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Hoffmann-Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing sir!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing sir!</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Coxall</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/12/01/cameron-apologies-to-mps-for-getting-his-facts-wrong/#comment-87783</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Coxall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I issued a full and frank apology at the time, and we have both agreed the matter is closed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I issued a full and frank apology at the time, and we have both agreed the matter is closed.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Hoffmann-Gill</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/12/01/cameron-apologies-to-mps-for-getting-his-facts-wrong/#comment-87781</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Hoffmann-Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your nan caught you watching pr0n?</description>
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		<title>By: Martin Coxall</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/12/01/cameron-apologies-to-mps-for-getting-his-facts-wrong/#comment-87780</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Coxall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bless. I always get a frisson watching politicians apologise. Like being caught watching porn by your nan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bless. I always get a frisson watching politicians apologise. Like being caught watching porn by your nan.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Liberal Conspiracy » Cameron apologies to MPs for getting his facts wrong http://bit.ly/8eQNv6&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Liberal Conspiracy » Cameron apologies to MPs for getting his facts wrong <a href="http://bit.ly/8eQNv6" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/8eQNv6</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Liberal Conspiracy</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/12/01/cameron-apologies-to-mps-for-getting-his-facts-wrong/#comment-87782</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberal Conspiracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;:: Cameron apologies to MPs for getting his facts wrong http://bit.ly/8eQNv6&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">:: Cameron apologies to MPs for getting his facts wrong <a href="http://bit.ly/8eQNv6" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/8eQNv6</a></span></span></span></p>
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