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		<title>By: Andy Jarm</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/23/more-calls-for-windfall-tax-on-banks/#comment-89143</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Jarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 15:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet again, Laurel and Hardy (Brown and Darling) are too late......banks pay bonuses once per year and most of them have already paid their bonuses for this year. The rest will have paid theirs in the next month or two...all before the end of the tax year. As this is a pre-budget report and not a budget it is almost certain that none of the bonuses earned in respect of last year will be affected. So I get my wonga in full. They know this and this is all for publicity value....and next year the tories will probably be in and have reversed this nonsense in any case 

Next year (even before April when the laughable 50% tax kicks in) most of us bankers will have fucked off abroad (me to Hong Kong probably - I already have an offer) and I look forward to blogging to you from there when the UK has lost its AAA rating, suffered a Gilts crisis and had to go cap in hand to the IMF as the last Labour government ended its days also........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet again, Laurel and Hardy (Brown and Darling) are too late&#8230;&#8230;banks pay bonuses once per year and most of them have already paid their bonuses for this year. The rest will have paid theirs in the next month or two&#8230;all before the end of the tax year. As this is a pre-budget report and not a budget it is almost certain that none of the bonuses earned in respect of last year will be affected. So I get my wonga in full. They know this and this is all for publicity value&#8230;.and next year the tories will probably be in and have reversed this nonsense in any case </p>
<p>Next year (even before April when the laughable 50% tax kicks in) most of us bankers will have fucked off abroad (me to Hong Kong probably &#8211; I already have an offer) and I look forward to blogging to you from there when the UK has lost its AAA rating, suffered a Gilts crisis and had to go cap in hand to the IMF as the last Labour government ended its days also&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/23/more-calls-for-windfall-tax-on-banks/#comment-86544</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A windfall tax is altogether too modest a proposal in the context.

What we really need is to apply the Admiral Byng solution to &quot;encourage the others&quot;, as Voltaire put it in Candide.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Byng</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A windfall tax is altogether too modest a proposal in the context.</p>
<p>What we really need is to apply the Admiral Byng solution to &#8220;encourage the others&#8221;, as Voltaire put it in Candide.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Byng" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Byng</a></p>
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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/23/more-calls-for-windfall-tax-on-banks/#comment-86307</link>
		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tim J</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/23/more-calls-for-windfall-tax-on-banks/#comment-85914</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>5 - I&#039;d be surprised if the tankers (or their cargoes) were owned by the oil companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>5 &#8211; I&#8217;d be surprised if the tankers (or their cargoes) were owned by the oil companies.</p>
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		<title>By: James Cowley</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/23/more-calls-for-windfall-tax-on-banks/#comment-85912</link>
		<dc:creator>James Cowley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we not call for supertax for oil companies too, they ripping the crap off everyone. 

Tankers sitting in the sea waiting for prices to rise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we not call for supertax for oil companies too, they ripping the crap off everyone. </p>
<p>Tankers sitting in the sea waiting for prices to rise.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Worstall</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/23/more-calls-for-windfall-tax-on-banks/#comment-85902</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite Luis. Don seems to have got so all sweaty and excited at seeing &quot;tax&quot; and &quot;bank&quot; in the same article that his eyesight has gone.

&quot;Since the aim of policy is to recapitalise the banks, the tax should not reduce their ability to do so.&quot;

ie, do not tax bank&#039;s profits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite Luis. Don seems to have got so all sweaty and excited at seeing &#8220;tax&#8221; and &#8220;bank&#8221; in the same article that his eyesight has gone.</p>
<p>&#8220;Since the aim of policy is to recapitalise the banks, the tax should not reduce their ability to do so.&#8221;</p>
<p>ie, do not tax bank&#8217;s profits.</p>
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		<title>By: Left Outside</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/23/more-calls-for-windfall-tax-on-banks/#comment-85896</link>
		<dc:creator>Left Outside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry Luis, I always end up writing (blockparty) (/blockparty) and getting nowhere.

Martin Wolf doesn&#039;t have a reputation for being overly sympathetic to finance but its interesting to see how wide support for a measure like this stretches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry Luis, I always end up writing (blockparty) (/blockparty) and getting nowhere.</p>
<p>Martin Wolf doesn&#8217;t have a reputation for being overly sympathetic to finance but its interesting to see how wide support for a measure like this stretches.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis Enrique</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/23/more-calls-for-windfall-tax-on-banks/#comment-85882</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Enrique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm. it seems I need to learn how to use blockquote tags</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm. it seems I need to learn how to use blockquote tags</p>
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		<title>By: Luis Enrique</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/23/more-calls-for-windfall-tax-on-banks/#comment-85880</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Enrique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don, 

sorry to be pedantic, but I think the distinction is worth making: he&#039;s not proposing taxing banks, he&#039;s proposing taxing bankers&#039; bonuses. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;
So the question, in my mind, is not whether a windfall tax can be justified but whether it can be designed successfully. All taxes have unintended consequences. One must be particularly careful with this one.

Since the aim of policy is to recapitalise the banks, the tax should not reduce their ability to do so. It would be far better then to impose a tax on contributions made to the bonus pool. 



the banks are busy trying to rebuild their balance sheets and are going to be reluctant to make new loans until they&#039;ve done so. We want them to provide credit, we want their balance sheets rebuilt, we don&#039;t want to windfall tax away money that really ought to be accumulating in capital reserves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don, </p>
<p>sorry to be pedantic, but I think the distinction is worth making: he&#8217;s not proposing taxing banks, he&#8217;s proposing taxing bankers&#8217; bonuses. </p>
<blockquote><p>
So the question, in my mind, is not whether a windfall tax can be justified but whether it can be designed successfully. All taxes have unintended consequences. One must be particularly careful with this one.</p>
<p>Since the aim of policy is to recapitalise the banks, the tax should not reduce their ability to do so. It would be far better then to impose a tax on contributions made to the bonus pool. </p>
<p>the banks are busy trying to rebuild their balance sheets and are going to be reluctant to make new loans until they&#8217;ve done so. We want them to provide credit, we want their balance sheets rebuilt, we don&#8217;t want to windfall tax away money that really ought to be accumulating in capital reserves.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Liberal Conspiracy » More calls for windfall tax on banks -- Topsy.com</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/23/more-calls-for-windfall-tax-on-banks/#comment-85861</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Liberal Conspiracy » More calls for windfall tax on banks -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Liberal Conspiracy, 4e4 network . 4e4 network said: RT @politicsofuk: More calls for windfall tax on banks #ukpolitics http://bit.ly/7kC0ue ... bout 6 month too late :( [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Liberal Conspiracy, 4e4 network . 4e4 network said: RT @politicsofuk: More calls for windfall tax on banks #ukpolitics <a href="http://bit.ly/7kC0ue" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/7kC0ue</a> &#8230; bout 6 month too late <img src='http://liberalconspiracy.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: peterdcox</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/23/more-calls-for-windfall-tax-on-banks/#comment-85867</link>
		<dc:creator>peterdcox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Even the #FT says the banks should be super-taxed http://ow.ly/ENRj Come on Gordon, what&#039;s so hard?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Even the #FT says the banks should be super-taxed <a href="http://ow.ly/ENRj" rel="nofollow">http://ow.ly/ENRj</a> Come on Gordon, what&#39;s so hard?</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Mags  </title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/23/more-calls-for-windfall-tax-on-banks/#comment-85866</link>
		<dc:creator>Mags  </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @politicsofuk: More calls for windfall tax on banks #ukpolitics http://bit.ly/7kC0ue&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @politicsofuk: More calls for windfall tax on banks #ukpolitics <a href="http://bit.ly/7kC0ue" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/7kC0ue</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: 4e4 network </title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/23/more-calls-for-windfall-tax-on-banks/#comment-85860</link>
		<dc:creator>4e4 network </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @politicsofuk: More calls for windfall tax on banks #ukpolitics http://bit.ly/7kC0ue ... bout 6 month too late :(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @politicsofuk: More calls for windfall tax on banks #ukpolitics <a href="http://bit.ly/7kC0ue" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/7kC0ue</a> &#8230; bout 6 month too late <img src='http://liberalconspiracy.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Politics of UK</title>
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		<dc:creator>Politics of UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;More calls for windfall tax on banks #ukpolitics http://bit.ly/7kC0ue&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">More calls for windfall tax on banks #ukpolitics <a href="http://bit.ly/7kC0ue" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/7kC0ue</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Liberal Conspiracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberal Conspiracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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