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	<title>Comments on: Blair&#8217;s failure at EU illustrates its real nature</title>
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		<title>By: Andy Gilmour</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/20/blairs-failure-at-eu-illustrates-its-real-nature/#comment-85839</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Gilmour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Two no-marks&quot;...

Why has Liberal Conspiracy dropped its quality threshold to offer us this startling piece of non-analysis?

just asking</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Two no-marks&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Why has Liberal Conspiracy dropped its quality threshold to offer us this startling piece of non-analysis?</p>
<p>just asking</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/20/blairs-failure-at-eu-illustrates-its-real-nature/#comment-85598</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Righties - wind &#039;em up and watch &#039;em go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Righties &#8211; wind &#8216;em up and watch &#8216;em go!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/20/blairs-failure-at-eu-illustrates-its-real-nature/#comment-85474</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Trouble is, you po-faced righties keep walking straight into it – and you don’t like it one little bit when someone pulls it on you, do you?&quot;

What point are you trying to make exactly?  As far as I can see, TimJ wasn&#039;t being  humourless until you started deliberately ignoring the humour and the point he was trying to make.

If you&#039;re annoyed about the way some on the Right accuse the Left of being po-faced, it&#039;s usually in relation to that subset of the Left who will, for example, read Harry Potter and then claim it&#039;s sexist/racist/classist/whatever while most people are thinking &quot;it&#039;s just a kids&#039; story book!&quot;.   That doesn&#039;t mean those analysing the story are necessarily wrong, it&#039;s just that they&#039;re perhaps seen as taking seriously something that&#039;s actually quite lighthearted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Trouble is, you po-faced righties keep walking straight into it – and you don’t like it one little bit when someone pulls it on you, do you?&#8221;</p>
<p>What point are you trying to make exactly?  As far as I can see, TimJ wasn&#8217;t being  humourless until you started deliberately ignoring the humour and the point he was trying to make.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re annoyed about the way some on the Right accuse the Left of being po-faced, it&#8217;s usually in relation to that subset of the Left who will, for example, read Harry Potter and then claim it&#8217;s sexist/racist/classist/whatever while most people are thinking &#8220;it&#8217;s just a kids&#8217; story book!&#8221;.   That doesn&#8217;t mean those analysing the story are necessarily wrong, it&#8217;s just that they&#8217;re perhaps seen as taking seriously something that&#8217;s actually quite lighthearted.</p>
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		<title>By: Nosemonkey</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/20/blairs-failure-at-eu-illustrates-its-real-nature/#comment-85396</link>
		<dc:creator>Nosemonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baroness? You chauvinist...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baroness? You chauvinist&#8230;</p>
<p>(etc.)</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm Redfellow</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/20/blairs-failure-at-eu-illustrates-its-real-nature/#comment-85384</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm Redfellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The general view here is that a gratuitous nudging reminder of a baroness&#039;s gender is merely a gross tautology, so ... fair enough.

I know that I&#039;d prefer to provoke, and even offend, rather than be pitied for sloppy thought and lame expression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The general view here is that a gratuitous nudging reminder of a baroness&#8217;s gender is merely a gross tautology, so &#8230; fair enough.</p>
<p>I know that I&#8217;d prefer to provoke, and even offend, rather than be pitied for sloppy thought and lame expression.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/20/blairs-failure-at-eu-illustrates-its-real-nature/#comment-85383</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;he’s used that line about righties being po-faced about 4 times now&quot;

And the rest!

Trouble is, you po-faced righties keep walking straight into it - and you don&#039;t like it one little bit when someone pulls it on you, do you?

Poor po-faced, humourless righties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;he’s used that line about righties being po-faced about 4 times now&#8221;</p>
<p>And the rest!</p>
<p>Trouble is, you po-faced righties keep walking straight into it &#8211; and you don&#8217;t like it one little bit when someone pulls it on you, do you?</p>
<p>Poor po-faced, humourless righties.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/20/blairs-failure-at-eu-illustrates-its-real-nature/#comment-85380</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>34 - nothing wrong with keeping people in check, especially using humour, it&#039;s just that he&#039;s used that line about righties being po-faced about 4 times now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>34 &#8211; nothing wrong with keeping people in check, especially using humour, it&#8217;s just that he&#8217;s used that line about righties being po-faced about 4 times now.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Wardman</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/20/blairs-failure-at-eu-illustrates-its-real-nature/#comment-85367</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Wardman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Sunny says it isn&#039;t sexist, then you&#039;ll have to do a lot of looking to find someone who does .... ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Sunny says it isn&#8217;t sexist, then you&#8217;ll have to do a lot of looking to find someone who does &#8230;. <img src='http://liberalconspiracy.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sunny H</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/20/blairs-failure-at-eu-illustrates-its-real-nature/#comment-85348</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Malcolm Redfellow trolling or something? How on earth is that sexist?

Anyway, I&#039;m shocked, absolutely shocked that the right-wing press have not made a big deal about this. And we thought they were interested in EU affairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Malcolm Redfellow trolling or something? How on earth is that sexist?</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m shocked, absolutely shocked that the right-wing press have not made a big deal about this. And we thought they were interested in EU affairs.</p>
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		<title>By: DHG</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/20/blairs-failure-at-eu-illustrates-its-real-nature/#comment-85289</link>
		<dc:creator>DHG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neil does a fine job of keeping people in check but then I would say that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil does a fine job of keeping people in check but then I would say that.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonard Hatred</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/20/blairs-failure-at-eu-illustrates-its-real-nature/#comment-85283</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonard Hatred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, what we need is a titanic hero to impose his will upon the governments of sovereign nations. Oh, wait, hang on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, what we need is a titanic hero to impose his will upon the governments of sovereign nations. Oh, wait, hang on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nosemonkey</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/20/blairs-failure-at-eu-illustrates-its-real-nature/#comment-85277</link>
		<dc:creator>Nosemonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And once again, parochialism takes over, and any discussion of the topic at hand is quickly sidetracked into purely domestic squabbling, spattered with the odd ad hominem attack.

God, I love the internet. So much potential gleefully squandered by petty spats and deliberate missing the point. Much like the EU, really...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And once again, parochialism takes over, and any discussion of the topic at hand is quickly sidetracked into purely domestic squabbling, spattered with the odd ad hominem attack.</p>
<p>God, I love the internet. So much potential gleefully squandered by petty spats and deliberate missing the point. Much like the EU, really&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim J</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/20/blairs-failure-at-eu-illustrates-its-real-nature/#comment-85265</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>29 - I&#039;m not convinced that being a clerk at the Inland Revenue from 1929 to 1936 really counts as two decades of Civil Service work.

Nor am I sold on the idea that a good war record was necessarily a good training for being Prime Minister.  After all, since the War, until Thatcher, Wilson was the only one without it.  How useful was Eden&#039;s war record in making his a successful premiership?  Since we no longer have conscription, can there be such a thing as a qualified Prime Minister?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>29 &#8211; I&#8217;m not convinced that being a clerk at the Inland Revenue from 1929 to 1936 really counts as two decades of Civil Service work.</p>
<p>Nor am I sold on the idea that a good war record was necessarily a good training for being Prime Minister.  After all, since the War, until Thatcher, Wilson was the only one without it.  How useful was Eden&#8217;s war record in making his a successful premiership?  Since we no longer have conscription, can there be such a thing as a qualified Prime Minister?</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/20/blairs-failure-at-eu-illustrates-its-real-nature/#comment-85263</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Does Neil ever do anything but make sarcastic and condescending comments?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Does Neil ever do anything but make sarcastic and condescending comments?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Do you?</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm Redfellow</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/20/blairs-failure-at-eu-illustrates-its-real-nature/#comment-85253</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm Redfellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strategist @ 2:57 pm:

OK: so you didn&#039;t mention gratuitously that the Baroness was a woman. How else could we have guessed such a shocking fact? So, is she a chap? What other point were you hoping to make? Consider all the poor little electrons that were exhausted bringing that detail to public attention.

Tim J @ 3:112 pm:

Well, you rose to the bait. But, since successful trolling needs fundies, there&#039;s no chance of that here? Yes?

Personally I recognise that Callaghan&#039;s two decades in the Civil Service, his war service, and uniquely having held all of the other three Great Offices of State qualified him. I would also suggest that Ted Heath&#039;s witness of the Nuremburg Rally, meeting the Nazi leadership, seeing Republican Barcelona, commanding an artillery battle in the advance into Germany (and supervising an execution party) coloured his judgement for the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strategist @ 2:57 pm:</p>
<p>OK: so you didn&#8217;t mention gratuitously that the Baroness was a woman. How else could we have guessed such a shocking fact? So, is she a chap? What other point were you hoping to make? Consider all the poor little electrons that were exhausted bringing that detail to public attention.</p>
<p>Tim J @ 3:112 pm:</p>
<p>Well, you rose to the bait. But, since successful trolling needs fundies, there&#8217;s no chance of that here? Yes?</p>
<p>Personally I recognise that Callaghan&#8217;s two decades in the Civil Service, his war service, and uniquely having held all of the other three Great Offices of State qualified him. I would also suggest that Ted Heath&#8217;s witness of the Nuremburg Rally, meeting the Nazi leadership, seeing Republican Barcelona, commanding an artillery battle in the advance into Germany (and supervising an execution party) coloured his judgement for the better.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/20/blairs-failure-at-eu-illustrates-its-real-nature/#comment-85252</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does Neil ever do anything but make sarcastic and condescending comments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Neil ever do anything but make sarcastic and condescending comments?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim J</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/20/blairs-failure-at-eu-illustrates-its-real-nature/#comment-85244</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>24 - But then, who was the last Prime Minister to have had a significant and substantial career outside politics?  Brown lectured for a year or so in adult education, Blair was a minor barrister in a fairly desultory way, Major was a low-level Shell executive, Thatcher briefly a junior research chemist, Callaghan a union official...

&lt;blockquote&gt;Might one further consider the implications of “any Brit, but particularly a massively inexperienced one”.

Now, how would that play with, oh … say an incoming Prime Minister whose sole experience outside Westminster might amount to PR-puffery for a failing TV station? Or an ex-Selfridges shop-boy suddenly advanced to running the national exchequer?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For one who vaunts his own expertise in trolling, this is pretty thin stuff.  Must try harder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>24 &#8211; But then, who was the last Prime Minister to have had a significant and substantial career outside politics?  Brown lectured for a year or so in adult education, Blair was a minor barrister in a fairly desultory way, Major was a low-level Shell executive, Thatcher briefly a junior research chemist, Callaghan a union official&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Might one further consider the implications of “any Brit, but particularly a massively inexperienced one”.</p>
<p>Now, how would that play with, oh … say an incoming Prime Minister whose sole experience outside Westminster might amount to PR-puffery for a failing TV station? Or an ex-Selfridges shop-boy suddenly advanced to running the national exchequer?</p></blockquote>
<p>For one who vaunts his own expertise in trolling, this is pretty thin stuff.  Must try harder.</p>
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		<title>By: Strategist</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/20/blairs-failure-at-eu-illustrates-its-real-nature/#comment-85238</link>
		<dc:creator>Strategist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@24 &quot;I was intrigued by the emphasis in the fourth paragraph that she might be a woman&quot;

There was no such emphasis.  Read the sentence again.  The basic premise for your display of smartarsery is simply wrong. If anybody is looking a silly willy-waver here, it&#039;s you.

&quot;an incoming Prime Minister whose sole experience outside Westminster might amount to PR-puffery for a failing TV station&quot;

Yep, the Cameron govt will be as pathetically subserviently Atlanticist as the Brown and Blair ones.  At what point are you telling us something we don&#039;t already know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@24 &#8220;I was intrigued by the emphasis in the fourth paragraph that she might be a woman&#8221;</p>
<p>There was no such emphasis.  Read the sentence again.  The basic premise for your display of smartarsery is simply wrong. If anybody is looking a silly willy-waver here, it&#8217;s you.</p>
<p>&#8220;an incoming Prime Minister whose sole experience outside Westminster might amount to PR-puffery for a failing TV station&#8221;</p>
<p>Yep, the Cameron govt will be as pathetically subserviently Atlanticist as the Brown and Blair ones.  At what point are you telling us something we don&#8217;t already know?</p>
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		<title>By: Shatterface</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/20/blairs-failure-at-eu-illustrates-its-real-nature/#comment-85236</link>
		<dc:creator>Shatterface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t understand why the EU voted for a couple of no-marks over an war criminal/Bush toady/religious nut/someone who kept the UK out of a common European currency. 

There&#039;s obviously something wrong with Europeans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t understand why the EU voted for a couple of no-marks over an war criminal/Bush toady/religious nut/someone who kept the UK out of a common European currency. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s obviously something wrong with Europeans.</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm Redfellow</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/20/blairs-failure-at-eu-illustrates-its-real-nature/#comment-85232</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm Redfellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strategist @ 2:17 pm

Might one further consider the implications of &quot;any Brit, but particularly a massively inexperienced one&quot;.

Now, how would that play with, oh ... say an incoming Prime Minister whose sole experience outside Westminster might amount to PR-puffery for a failing TV station?  Or an ex-Selfridges shop-boy suddenly advanced to running the national exchequer?

But then, having read in the first paragraph of the head piece that the topic was Baroness Ashton, I was intrigued by the emphasis in the fourth paragraph that she might be a woman. Now: I was emphatic that such a usage could not, ever, conceivably, possibly be chauvinist or misogynist, so I went about my daily business. I drop by here later and find a couple of others taking umbrage that I did so imply. How could I make myself clearer? After all, we don&#039;t want to give the impression that this is just a bunch of little boys playing with themselves, do we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strategist @ 2:17 pm</p>
<p>Might one further consider the implications of &#8220;any Brit, but particularly a massively inexperienced one&#8221;.</p>
<p>Now, how would that play with, oh &#8230; say an incoming Prime Minister whose sole experience outside Westminster might amount to PR-puffery for a failing TV station?  Or an ex-Selfridges shop-boy suddenly advanced to running the national exchequer?</p>
<p>But then, having read in the first paragraph of the head piece that the topic was Baroness Ashton, I was intrigued by the emphasis in the fourth paragraph that she might be a woman. Now: I was emphatic that such a usage could not, ever, conceivably, possibly be chauvinist or misogynist, so I went about my daily business. I drop by here later and find a couple of others taking umbrage that I did so imply. How could I make myself clearer? After all, we don&#8217;t want to give the impression that this is just a bunch of little boys playing with themselves, do we?</p>
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		<title>By: Strategist</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/20/blairs-failure-at-eu-illustrates-its-real-nature/#comment-85220</link>
		<dc:creator>Strategist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@19 &quot;Europe needs a proper Foreign Minister.... We get lumbered with a joke nobody Brownite toady.... I’m yet to hear or read one statement about why she’s suitable.&quot;

Thinking about this a second time, it strikes me that this is service to Washington rendered by Britain in its capacity as 51st state.  Hillary was very effusive on the radio this morning, and you might interpret that as the pleasure of a Secretary of State who has as good as got a member of her own State Department staff into the post.  With a Brit at the helm - any Brit, but particularly a massively inexperienced one - the US can effectively nip in the bud any tendency for the EU to develop a seriously independent foreign affairs &amp; security policy line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@19 &#8220;Europe needs a proper Foreign Minister&#8230;. We get lumbered with a joke nobody Brownite toady&#8230;. I’m yet to hear or read one statement about why she’s suitable.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thinking about this a second time, it strikes me that this is service to Washington rendered by Britain in its capacity as 51st state.  Hillary was very effusive on the radio this morning, and you might interpret that as the pleasure of a Secretary of State who has as good as got a member of her own State Department staff into the post.  With a Brit at the helm &#8211; any Brit, but particularly a massively inexperienced one &#8211; the US can effectively nip in the bud any tendency for the EU to develop a seriously independent foreign affairs &amp; security policy line.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim J</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/20/blairs-failure-at-eu-illustrates-its-real-nature/#comment-85217</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>21 - you win.  I surrender.  Pax now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>21 &#8211; you win.  I surrender.  Pax now?</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/20/blairs-failure-at-eu-illustrates-its-real-nature/#comment-85215</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was very po-faced and humourless, Tim. What is it with you righties?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was very po-faced and humourless, Tim. What is it with you righties?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim J</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/20/blairs-failure-at-eu-illustrates-its-real-nature/#comment-85206</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>18 - well, you could just read the bit where I said that was taking the piss.  Do you actually have an opinion on any of this?  Or is this just entirely pointless?  

I&#039;m sure I don&#039;t need to spell it out that I was satirising Anglo-French relations in the cause of highlighting the only interesting potential outcome of appointing a Belgian boring even by domestic standards, and someone who is not even the most famous person in her own family to the two &#039;most important&#039; positions in the EU.

If you want it shorn of all amusing, interesting and non-essential language:

The British have always sought to block the French from taking the financial commissioners position, because the British believe that a primary French objective is lessening Britain&#039;s comparative advantage in the financial sector.  Part of the deal in appointing the President and High Rep to non Franco-German candidates appears (according to the French press, Bloomberg and Sarkozy himself) to be that the French will now get this commissionership.  If they use this to push through the regulations on hedge funds that they have been pushing for over a year then it will lead to a significant problem for the British Government.

Clear?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>18 &#8211; well, you could just read the bit where I said that was taking the piss.  Do you actually have an opinion on any of this?  Or is this just entirely pointless?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure I don&#8217;t need to spell it out that I was satirising Anglo-French relations in the cause of highlighting the only interesting potential outcome of appointing a Belgian boring even by domestic standards, and someone who is not even the most famous person in her own family to the two &#8216;most important&#8217; positions in the EU.</p>
<p>If you want it shorn of all amusing, interesting and non-essential language:</p>
<p>The British have always sought to block the French from taking the financial commissioners position, because the British believe that a primary French objective is lessening Britain&#8217;s comparative advantage in the financial sector.  Part of the deal in appointing the President and High Rep to non Franco-German candidates appears (according to the French press, Bloomberg and Sarkozy himself) to be that the French will now get this commissionership.  If they use this to push through the regulations on hedge funds that they have been pushing for over a year then it will lead to a significant problem for the British Government.</p>
<p>Clear?</p>
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		<title>By: James Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe that Miliband (D) and others went along with this farce. Europe needs a proper Foreign Minister. The job has a big budget (I think around 10 billion euros for Aid), around 5,000 diplomats, and should be high profile. We get lumbered with a joke nobody Brownite toady. How does Brown central look at itself in the mirror in the morning? I&#039;m yet to hear or read one statement about why she&#039;s suitable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe that Miliband (D) and others went along with this farce. Europe needs a proper Foreign Minister. The job has a big budget (I think around 10 billion euros for Aid), around 5,000 diplomats, and should be high profile. We get lumbered with a joke nobody Brownite toady. How does Brown central look at itself in the mirror in the morning? I&#8217;m yet to hear or read one statement about why she&#8217;s suitable.</p>
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