I’d stop it now mate, we’ve been shown up for what we are, which is pathetic little men, best if we retreat now, re-group over at Stormfront and then attack them with both barrels.

It is when there are complete crackpots like you about. You really are a first class weirdo.

Is this really how you think you win arguments? With this crazy crap about spoofing and calling other commentators by different names? By accusing them of being some kind of stalker when they have been commenting on this site without even bumping into you?!

You need help. You really do.

“I wish it wasn’t, what do you suggest?”

Shut up and grow up, you headjob.

Mr F

After this nutjob accused me of spoofing I don’t believe a word of it. I think he is doing it himself and maybe even spoofing others for some sort of validation, who knows. He is crazy.

I think he is doing it to get lots of attention to plug his tax paid ‘show’ and for other reasons only apparent to a nutter.

Well, I think there are two problems here:

a. People who come on this site to take the piss
b. The reaction of people who DON’T come on this site to take the piss to people who DO come on this site to take the piss.

There will always be people who fall into the group described in a. Their motivations vary, but the point is that they will always be there and you can’t control their behaviour. You could ban them, but I rather think that’s not what this site sees itself as being about.

What you can control, or at least influence, is the phenomenon described in b. So, I don’t suggest anything, apart from a bit of self – restraint which, I think you will admit, you may lack now and again. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a foaming at the mouth Nazi. Of course some are, but others may be, basically, well motivated but caught up in a particular viewpoint (eg a Daily Mail – type perspective on immigration) for a variety of irrational reasons. It may be possible, through presenting facts and reasonable argument, to persuade them otherwise. It will not be possible to persuade them through abuse, either of them directly or of others on this site. Abuse and insults will conribute to their entrenchment on the Daily Mail’s frontline.

As for those who come to take the piss, you may say that they deserve to be abused. Some (eg obvious racists) certainly do, others, at least in my opinion, don’t, but that’s irrelevant. Descending to the level of insult trading isn’t going to convert a committed racist (so don’t waste your time) or do anything but amuse someone who’s here to take the piss. It also runs the risk of alienating alot of people who are potential allies (or at least neutrals).

Notwithstanding all of the above, I would like to add that I am an infrequent visitor to this site, but I have come across an instance in the past where you claimed that remarks made on here under your name were made by an impostor to discredit you. At the time I didn’t believe this but I now do, for a variety of reasons, one being pagar’s post on another thread confirming that it happened to him. So, I can see why you lose your rag. This doesn’t mean I like you or agree with you, it just means that can see why you may go a tad over the top now and again.

I said it at 35, so I beat you to it, always the way with these threads, I wish it wasn’t, what do you suggest?

The series of articles on immigration hasn’t even started and this forum has degenerated into a parody of itself. Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s top – notch entertainment, but it doesn’t bode well for the prospects of “intelligent debate” (there’s a fucking laugh, eh?) on the subject of immigration, does it? Looking on the bright side, I doubt anything’s been lost. There never was going to be an actual debate about the articles Unity plans to publish, was there? It seems that too many people already know, with absolute and complete certainty, what the “truth” is on this issue so why bother even to consider any other point of view. Much better to scream insults in an increasingly hysterical tone. Keep it up because it’s really fucking funny.

Alrready toured to North East, you’ll have to get your horse and cart out and travel to Manc or London.

See you here coward!

Sentinel:

Thanks for a link to a thread that proves you’re a racist again but nothing other than that.

Ignoring the rest of your blather and the deletion of the fake comments proves they are fake you goon, goodness me, it is not rocket science.

And seriously, come and see the show before you pass judgement on it, if you dare that is…

You touring?…post some dates. I’ll let you know which one. Preferably the North East.

Not just a ranting buffoon…an M&S schizoid ranting buffoon. I can see my work here is done. I’ll wait until you’ve sought medical help and the anti-psychotics have kicked in before returning. It’s just too easy at the moment. You’re overweight, puffing, your timing’s gone and there’s a towel coming in from the corner.

Is it?

For someone not commenting again until the articles you sure like to keep commenting. And keep calling me mentally ill, it won’t make it true, you sociopath.

And by all means, keep going with your personal attacks, it enables others to see you as you are, which is grand.

“I have pulled you apart and you know it.”

Wow, I’ve seen deluded behaviour here before but not to that degree, that is pretty far going even for you.

Multiple fake id coward:

Why do you care about the impersonation? And what makes you think anyone here cares about you odd little diatribes towards me? Seriously, like Sentinel, keep going, it only reflects poorly on you and illustrates how empty your putrid little rants are.

And the more you try and explain your backward and vacant ideas the more your deep set prejudice becomes clear.

An as you haven’t got it, the idiot pretending to be me banging on about Nazis isn’t me.

It’s not hard to grasp but clearly it is for you, poor sod.

Who’s impersonated you and why? And How?

I happen to agree with you that immigrants in this country often face unwarranted and unconscionable levels of abuse and discrimination. These need to be challenged. However, if I were in such a position, I doubt I would wish, as an advocate, an hysterical gobshite with the erudition of a performing chimp.

Shouting ‘racist’ at anyone who voices a concern over the impact on wages, employment and job security is not only lacking in nuance, it is irrational, provocative and deeply dismissive of huge numbers of people with legitimate misgivings..ie the working class…although they ever seem to hit your radar…not to mention playing the liberal idiot for those with a ‘flexible workforce’/neocon agenda. Similarly over crime…screaming ‘racist’, ‘liar’. xenophobia etc is no substitute for a reasoned rebuttal. Now, you seem to be calling for some sort of mass murder of those you dislike. You really are a fuckin embarrassment.

As for your “someone’s been impersonating me” spiel..what are you alleging exactly..and who are you accusing? You see, having read your call for a mass extermination of ‘Nazis’, I doubt that it’s hard for anyone to imagine that you might have gone a little too far elsewhere and, rather than deal with the fallout, concocted a wild exculpatory fiction about ‘identity theft’. If you seriously claim to have been impersonated, perhaps you should look into that guy who used to do the PG Tips adverts…he’d have all the right contacts to take you off to a tee.

Honestly, it really is pathetic.

Keep trotting out your stale, tired lines because you can’t cope with an actual debate because of your closed mind, that’s cool, the more you do so, the more you paint yourself into a corner for everyone to see.

And add surreal to list of words you don’t know the meaning of…

The rest of your comment I must confess, I didn’t read because it is the same as all the rest of the tripe you vomit.

We all look forward to you keeping quiet until the articles actually appear, good luck with that.

How perfectly surreal you are!

Even the guy on your side perfectly summed up your completely empty posts:

“It’s not enough dismissing everything you haven’t got the nous to deal with as a ’strawman…You’re starting to bluster …again..get your act together… This is what I was saying above: striking your liberal poses…then dismissing him without addressing the argument except for making sweeping, non-specific generalisations just doesn’t cut it…You’re not a ‘danger’, he’s well ahead on points..no doubt your little gang will tell you different, but he is…As for his ‘lies’..expose them as such. Shouting strawman and moving on looks like artless evasion…If you’re not up to it DHG, leave it to the big boys eh?”

Couldn’t have put it better myself, so I suppose that now makes me a suspect in your un-medicated world of actually being that poster!

Really, DHG you are a rather pathetic excuse of a “debater” and your demented conspiracy and victim tactic are reminiscent of that weird child every school has who makes up outlandish stories to get attention and sympathy, to distract away from the fact that they have nothing real to say or any talents and also that they stink of piss.

But I must admit, crazies like you do lighten the mood and are great entertainment for all, after all everyone loves a clown. I look forward to lots of laughter at you.

As I told Donut Hinge Party, I am now telling you: I have already said I will wait for the rest of the articles before passing more comment on this subject and I look forward to exposing and humiliating you again then if you persist in your lies and idiocy.

So you’d better make sure your one word contribution of ‘racist’ is programmed to a sticky key.

Happy Sunday mentalist.

And I love how a person hiding behind multiple identities in order to spam a liberal blog with hateful little barbs of fiction is somehow an arbiter on what is right and wrong, deluded to the highest degree and a sad shambles of a human, bless him.

Curious Freedom/Sentinel:

At least you’ve stopped pretending to be me now!

You honestly think that by saying something has no value or is empty, somehow makes it so, you are not Jean-Luc Picard. “do you just have a pool of substanceless prepared comments to post, one size fits all?” Exactly what I was going to say to you!

SNAP!

I read your lengthy comments about nothing, where you attack me but offer little else and it does make me worry about your mental health. Especially as all you do is repeat the same lines as if they haven’t been dismissed as the bigoted ramblings of a racist mind.

Again, as you trot out racist lies about crime, most of which is committed by *shock horror* white folks, you fail to even embrace the reality of poverty and crime because that would no doubt cud your already myopic world view.

Also, you have no idea what MArxist is or Soviet, just tag lines from your feeble brain and limited intellectual pallet.

And in a classic error that reflects your backing of the British Nazi Party, you refuse to accept that 1.6% of the UK population voted BNP and quote the 6% figure which is the proportion of the vote, not the population of the UK you dolt! Followed by elected officials they have now, as if this makes them out to be some kind of huge movement in the UK.

The Greens are bigger.

Then, as in the other thread you spammed up with racist crap, you trot out the YouGov poll which has already been dismissed here so no need to go over that old chestnut you racist.

“Every time you do it now, it fuels the BNP.”

Are they listening to me? I have such power with them do I? HA! Nonsense, warped ramblings of an idiot.

And the epic failure that is your efforts to deal with DHP is quite amusing, you see no parallel in your smearing of an entire race with crimes but get all upset when it is pointed out that most child abusers are white.

You miss the point by such a distance it brought a smile to my face, as does your failure to rebut a single one of DHP take-downs of your quote-mined bigotry.

douglas clark:

“One things for sure, they have made up their minds before the evidence is even presented….”

Indeed, that’s the trouble with close-minded, spiteful and hate-ridden bigots; I’m thankful I’m not them.

Oh and Richard, if you’re siding with racist, you’re on the wrong side, just a thought.

I have already said I will wait for the rest of the articles before passing more comment on this subject and I look forward to exposing and humiliating you again then if you persist in your lies and idiocy.

Happy Sunday.

Oh, well that’s all right, then, as long as they were proscribed. Makes me feel like a bad sport for not being at the Arndale centre or the Brighton conference when they decided to blow it up. Comparisons with Al-Qaeda are of course entirely fatuous, as one is a marginalised people fighting to remove the influence of unwanted states from territories they believe to be theirs and the other, er. . .

Seem to have touched a nerve there, regardless, which is nice. I’d poke it again, but I don’t think it’ll do any good.

“You start off on a false premise by claiming that there were 85 cases of gang rape in the whole of the UK in 2008 when there were actually 93 reported cases in the 2008/2009 tax year in London alone so either you are completely ignorant of the real problem or you are just dishonest.”

I took financial year, you took tax year – sue me.

As for the racial profiling, I haven’t got the time to go through these sheet by sheet, but you’re welcome to check them.

http://www.kidshield.co.uk/kidshield_paedophile_statistics.htm

One of the reasons that less immigrants are convicted for these crimes are frankly that they usually occur from family members, and recent immigrants generally don’t have families.

At the last count, about 50% of children in care went on to prison.
79% of children in care are white.
http://www.dcsf.gov.uk/consultations/downloadableDocs/EIA%20Final.doc.

And if you can manage to conflate African Caribbean, Eastern European and apparently Asian into one whole “Evil Immigrants” package, and judge all by the standards of a few, then I think I can get away with squeezing Irish travellers (clue in the title) and Bog standard Euro-loving Paddies together.

Are you denying the right of the travelling community the right to identify themselves as a distinct racial grouping? Statistics show on poor tarmacing are notoriously hard to break down since the Commision on tarmacing standards only started compiling racial data in 2007!

However recent anecdotal evidence suggests that many cowboy tarmacers are recent arrivals from the Emerald Isle and consider themselves of a distinct and separate cultural and racial heritage to the more traditional pikey operatives. Apparently the feeling is mutual. Your inference that all poor tarmac jobs are undertaken by “the Irish” is therefore a sweeping generalisation which is both inaccurate and insensitive. I can only conclude you are a racist…you are your BNP colleagues have no place in a civilised society. Go and boil your head.

You may be interested to know that an elderly couple not far from me recently had their drive done by a couple of Albanians. To quote the good lady of the house “I could have done a better job myself with a fuckin fish-slice…I’m sure the little one with the moustache was gay”