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		<title>By: Daniel Hoffmann-Gill</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/19/atheist-bus-launches-new-ad-campaign/#comment-90344</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Hoffmann-Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone is desperate to prove that atheism is dead methinks? And all your links are to your own blog, hardly a sight for fair and balanced commentary on the issue, you also distort these issues and twist them into something they are not, which is fine but the brazen way you do this suggests some disconnection from reality.

1) you distort this into some nonsense about society stepping in, you have built a straw man

2) That is totally made up madness by you, reflective of your own personal agenda, it is not as simple as science vs religion and if you think it is, then you are way off the mark

3) Not sure how the UN gets drawn into this as a cabal of atheists but again, fiction, I think you are confusing condemning with a desire to remove the protected status of religion as free from critique when its adherents abuse human rights in the name of it.

4) This again is fiction, wildly general and made up, you make out atheists, in order to understand it, into a cult like your faith is but it is not, it is about an open mind, not a closed one.

5) Now that&#039;s funny, you take the ad campaign and then make a odd point that they should give all the money to charity, this point is so flimsy, so poorly thought out, so hypocritical considering the money hoarding that goes in in let&#039;s say the Catholic church or the evangelical movement who spend millions on lobbying not charity to those in need. The point is neither is wrong but by drawing attention to it and considering the values of Christ with regards to money, it makes many Christians look very, very hypocritical and lacking in faith at all.

7) (you skip the devil&#039;s number) Stop linking to your own hate site and leave us alone, how about that?

Seriously, for someone with strong faith, you seem very threatened and if your faith is secure, you should have little need to be so desperate and flimsy in your defence of your cults?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone is desperate to prove that atheism is dead methinks? And all your links are to your own blog, hardly a sight for fair and balanced commentary on the issue, you also distort these issues and twist them into something they are not, which is fine but the brazen way you do this suggests some disconnection from reality.</p>
<p>1) you distort this into some nonsense about society stepping in, you have built a straw man</p>
<p>2) That is totally made up madness by you, reflective of your own personal agenda, it is not as simple as science vs religion and if you think it is, then you are way off the mark</p>
<p>3) Not sure how the UN gets drawn into this as a cabal of atheists but again, fiction, I think you are confusing condemning with a desire to remove the protected status of religion as free from critique when its adherents abuse human rights in the name of it.</p>
<p>4) This again is fiction, wildly general and made up, you make out atheists, in order to understand it, into a cult like your faith is but it is not, it is about an open mind, not a closed one.</p>
<p>5) Now that&#8217;s funny, you take the ad campaign and then make a odd point that they should give all the money to charity, this point is so flimsy, so poorly thought out, so hypocritical considering the money hoarding that goes in in let&#8217;s say the Catholic church or the evangelical movement who spend millions on lobbying not charity to those in need. The point is neither is wrong but by drawing attention to it and considering the values of Christ with regards to money, it makes many Christians look very, very hypocritical and lacking in faith at all.</p>
<p>7) (you skip the devil&#8217;s number) Stop linking to your own hate site and leave us alone, how about that?</p>
<p>Seriously, for someone with strong faith, you seem very threatened and if your faith is secure, you should have little need to be so desperate and flimsy in your defence of your cults?</p>
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		<title>By: Mariano</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/19/atheist-bus-launches-new-ad-campaign/#comment-90251</link>
		<dc:creator>Mariano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let us see if we can follow the bouncing ball and comment the dots of atheist propaganda:

1) Atheist activists such as Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, etc. condemn the overwhelming majority of parents who have ever lives as “child abusers,” “brainwashers,” etc. for teaching their children their religion. They do this while admitting that they want society to step in and that this will lead to children choosing no religion at all—their goal is to interrupt families in order to encourage atheism in children: &lt;a href=&quot;http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/11/deceptive-manipulative-propagandist.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;evidence here&lt;/a&gt;

2) Next, they admit that they teach “science” and “evolution” as being synonymous with atheism, that they smuggle atheism in through the back door of “science” classes in public schools, that they write children’s “fiction” which is really an atheism catechism in disguise, etc.: &lt;a href=&quot;http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2008/10/atheisms-sales-pitch-to-children.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;evidence here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/02/protecting-science-classroom.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;

3) Next, they seek the support of fellow atheists and the UN in condemning religious parents and pretend to be concerned for free thought and free choice: &lt;a href=&quot;http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/12/successful-propaganda-101-appeal-to-but.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;evidence here&lt;/a&gt;

4) Next, we find that some atheist parents and some atheist organizations are not the least bit shy to admit that they do the very same things that other atheists condemn in religious parents, that they want to raise their children to be atheists—sometimes under the very thin disguise of teaching them critical thinking; yet, the evidence is clear, they want to raise atheists: &lt;a href=&quot;http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/12/hey-atheists-leave-those-kids-alone-and.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;evidence here&lt;/a&gt;

5) Lastly, at least thus far, atheists worldwide waste precious money not to help the needy during a time of recession but in order to purchase belligerent bus ads and billboards as they refuse to follow the evidence where it leads and condemn the celebrity atheists for their hypocrisy: &lt;a href=&quot;http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/08/atheism-essays-particular-to-atheist.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;evidence here&lt;/a&gt;

7) So, how about this for an add: please don’t call us “child abusers,” “brainwashers,” etc. leave us alone and let us choose how to raise our children: &lt;a href=&quot;http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/12/brand-new-hot-off-press-bus-ads-and.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;evidence here&lt;/a&gt;

Moreover, for much more evidence of atheist who seek to dictate child rearing to us all &lt;a href=&quot;http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/08/atheism-essays-particular-to-atheism.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;see here&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us see if we can follow the bouncing ball and comment the dots of atheist propaganda:</p>
<p>1) Atheist activists such as Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, etc. condemn the overwhelming majority of parents who have ever lives as “child abusers,” “brainwashers,” etc. for teaching their children their religion. They do this while admitting that they want society to step in and that this will lead to children choosing no religion at all—their goal is to interrupt families in order to encourage atheism in children: <a href="http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/11/deceptive-manipulative-propagandist.html" rel="nofollow">evidence here</a></p>
<p>2) Next, they admit that they teach “science” and “evolution” as being synonymous with atheism, that they smuggle atheism in through the back door of “science” classes in public schools, that they write children’s “fiction” which is really an atheism catechism in disguise, etc.: <a href="http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2008/10/atheisms-sales-pitch-to-children.html" rel="nofollow">evidence here</a> and <a href="http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/02/protecting-science-classroom.html" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
<p>3) Next, they seek the support of fellow atheists and the UN in condemning religious parents and pretend to be concerned for free thought and free choice: <a href="http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/12/successful-propaganda-101-appeal-to-but.html" rel="nofollow">evidence here</a></p>
<p>4) Next, we find that some atheist parents and some atheist organizations are not the least bit shy to admit that they do the very same things that other atheists condemn in religious parents, that they want to raise their children to be atheists—sometimes under the very thin disguise of teaching them critical thinking; yet, the evidence is clear, they want to raise atheists: <a href="http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/12/hey-atheists-leave-those-kids-alone-and.html" rel="nofollow">evidence here</a></p>
<p>5) Lastly, at least thus far, atheists worldwide waste precious money not to help the needy during a time of recession but in order to purchase belligerent bus ads and billboards as they refuse to follow the evidence where it leads and condemn the celebrity atheists for their hypocrisy: <a href="http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/08/atheism-essays-particular-to-atheist.html" rel="nofollow">evidence here</a></p>
<p>7) So, how about this for an add: please don’t call us “child abusers,” “brainwashers,” etc. leave us alone and let us choose how to raise our children: <a href="http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/12/brand-new-hot-off-press-bus-ads-and.html" rel="nofollow">evidence here</a></p>
<p>Moreover, for much more evidence of atheist who seek to dictate child rearing to us all <a href="http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/08/atheism-essays-particular-to-atheism.html" rel="nofollow">see here</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Hoffmann-Gill</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/19/atheist-bus-launches-new-ad-campaign/#comment-87433</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Hoffmann-Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loath as I am to return to long dead threads resurrected by idiots Mariano, you hide here behind the exact same tactics you accuse others of, which seems a bit weird.

Your only comment of &#039;weight&#039; and I use that loosely is 43, which has already been debunked and is so riddled with your prejudice it&#039;s amusing.

And to repeat, atheism, as much as you would wish it away, is not dead. Is your faith so weak that you have to declare such nonsense as fact?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loath as I am to return to long dead threads resurrected by idiots Mariano, you hide here behind the exact same tactics you accuse others of, which seems a bit weird.</p>
<p>Your only comment of &#8216;weight&#8217; and I use that loosely is 43, which has already been debunked and is so riddled with your prejudice it&#8217;s amusing.</p>
<p>And to repeat, atheism, as much as you would wish it away, is not dead. Is your faith so weak that you have to declare such nonsense as fact?</p>
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		<title>By: Mariano</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/19/atheist-bus-launches-new-ad-campaign/#comment-87412</link>
		<dc:creator>Mariano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lemmy,
I prefer reasoned discourse rather than arguments to ridicule, arguments from outrage and arguments from arbitrary comment section “ethics.” Please note that there is a consistent discussion which began on the 19th and which, due to loss of interest and now, in my case having experienced a long holiday weekend, becomes more and more sparse. Why are you coming back to an un-dead thread to spew your belligerence?

Mr. F,
Thank you for the logical question; the propagandists are ignorant (or perhaps simply ignoring the facts in order to facilitate their propaganda) that, for example, Jews refer to children as Jewish due to cultural- race-peoplehood-heritage-genealogy based considerations and later have a bar/bat mitzvah when the child is consider to become an adult (my was at the age of 18) and only then becomes Jewish in a religious sense. Another example; Catholics baptize babies and have the godparents speak for them by proxy but later have confirmation. Again: culture versus religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lemmy,<br />
I prefer reasoned discourse rather than arguments to ridicule, arguments from outrage and arguments from arbitrary comment section “ethics.” Please note that there is a consistent discussion which began on the 19th and which, due to loss of interest and now, in my case having experienced a long holiday weekend, becomes more and more sparse. Why are you coming back to an un-dead thread to spew your belligerence?</p>
<p>Mr. F,<br />
Thank you for the logical question; the propagandists are ignorant (or perhaps simply ignoring the facts in order to facilitate their propaganda) that, for example, Jews refer to children as Jewish due to cultural- race-peoplehood-heritage-genealogy based considerations and later have a bar/bat mitzvah when the child is consider to become an adult (my was at the age of 18) and only then becomes Jewish in a religious sense. Another example; Catholics baptize babies and have the godparents speak for them by proxy but later have confirmation. Again: culture versus religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr F</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/19/atheist-bus-launches-new-ad-campaign/#comment-87097</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mariano. What are you talking about?

&quot;Yet again, atheists are collecting “amazing sums” during a time of worldwide recession not in order to help anyone in real material need but in order to attempt to demonstrate just how clever they consider themselves to be—while actually loudly, proudly and expensively demonstrating their ignorance and arrogance—need any more be said?&quot;

Demonstrating their ignorance of what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mariano. What are you talking about?</p>
<p>&#8220;Yet again, atheists are collecting “amazing sums” during a time of worldwide recession not in order to help anyone in real material need but in order to attempt to demonstrate just how clever they consider themselves to be—while actually loudly, proudly and expensively demonstrating their ignorance and arrogance—need any more be said?&#8221;</p>
<p>Demonstrating their ignorance of what?</p>
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		<title>By: Metz77</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/19/atheist-bus-launches-new-ad-campaign/#comment-86769</link>
		<dc:creator>Metz77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;@ExtraNoise No, but adults do, and that&#039;s who the ads are targeting, if you&#039;re referring to the ones like this: http://bit.ly/hnhQR&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@ExtraNoise No, but adults do, and that&#39;s who the ads are targeting, if you&#39;re referring to the ones like this: <a href="http://bit.ly/hnhQR" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/hnhQR</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: lemmy</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/19/atheist-bus-launches-new-ad-campaign/#comment-86468</link>
		<dc:creator>lemmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you sad religious sod, coming back to a dead thread to spew your nonsense</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you sad religious sod, coming back to a dead thread to spew your nonsense</p>
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		<title>By: Mariano</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/19/atheist-bus-launches-new-ad-campaign/#comment-86461</link>
		<dc:creator>Mariano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DHG,
It is personage such as yourself who ignore evidence when it is inconvenient to your point, in this case the underlying facts behind atheist propaganda, that make such hypocritical propaganda successful.

Phil H,
I categorized those to whom I referred as they both support the latest propaganda and admit their underlying motives. Your misrepresentation of the studies I cite is embarrassing.

Douglas Clark,
It&#039;s been done. Although, your argument from outrage is just that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DHG,<br />
It is personage such as yourself who ignore evidence when it is inconvenient to your point, in this case the underlying facts behind atheist propaganda, that make such hypocritical propaganda successful.</p>
<p>Phil H,<br />
I categorized those to whom I referred as they both support the latest propaganda and admit their underlying motives. Your misrepresentation of the studies I cite is embarrassing.</p>
<p>Douglas Clark,<br />
It&#8217;s been done. Although, your argument from outrage is just that.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/19/atheist-bus-launches-new-ad-campaign/#comment-86293</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Yay Atheist Bus! http://bit.ly/hnhQR More like this please!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Yay Atheist Bus! <a href="http://bit.ly/hnhQR" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/hnhQR</a> More like this please!</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Left Outside</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/19/atheist-bus-launches-new-ad-campaign/#comment-86164</link>
		<dc:creator>Left Outside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone at &lt;a href=&quot;http://leftoutside.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/the-times-now-comes-in-stupid/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Teh Times&lt;/a&gt; &lt;em&gt;really&lt;em&gt; doesn&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone at <a href="http://leftoutside.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/the-times-now-comes-in-stupid/" rel="nofollow">Teh Times</a> <em>really</em><em> doesn&#8217;t get it.</em></p>
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		<title>By: John Porter</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/19/atheist-bus-launches-new-ad-campaign/#comment-85874</link>
		<dc:creator>John Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/y9eka2k : @libcon with another good story...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content"><a href="http://tinyurl.com/y9eka2k" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/y9eka2k</a> : @libcon with another good story&#8230;</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/19/atheist-bus-launches-new-ad-campaign/#comment-85526</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if there really was a God, I&#039;d be first in line for trying to murder the bastard.</description>
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		<title>By: Phil H</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/19/atheist-bus-launches-new-ad-campaign/#comment-85520</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done, Mariano, you have managed to group people together in one category on the basis of an absence of a certain characteristic.

I find it interesting that you consider &lt;a href=&quot;http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/04/are-atheists-healthy-happy-moral-etc.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;spending a &quot;significant amount of time&quot; praying for poor people&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; to be an act of charity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done, Mariano, you have managed to group people together in one category on the basis of an absence of a certain characteristic.</p>
<p>I find it interesting that you consider <a href="http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/04/are-atheists-healthy-happy-moral-etc.html" rel="nofollow"><i>&#8220;spending a &#8220;significant amount of time&#8221; praying for poor people&#8221;</i></a> to be an act of charity.</p>
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		<title>By: DHG</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/19/atheist-bus-launches-new-ad-campaign/#comment-85518</link>
		<dc:creator>DHG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We seem to have lost the point somewhat with the diversion to Sikhs and Jews but thankfully, mentalist Mariano wades in linking to his/her own blog catchily entitled atheism is dead.

Well it&#039;s not, you odd shaped Christian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We seem to have lost the point somewhat with the diversion to Sikhs and Jews but thankfully, mentalist Mariano wades in linking to his/her own blog catchily entitled atheism is dead.</p>
<p>Well it&#8217;s not, you odd shaped Christian.</p>
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		<title>By: Mariano</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/19/atheist-bus-launches-new-ad-campaign/#comment-85512</link>
		<dc:creator>Mariano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is merely more atheist propaganda as Richard Dawkins wonders whether there is occasion for “society stepping in” and hopes that such efforts “might lead children to choose no religion at all.” Dawkins also supports the atheist summer camp “Camp Quest.”

Phillip Pullman states the following about his “fictional” books for children, “I don&#039;t think I&#039;m writing fantasy. I think I&#039;m writing realism. My books are psychologically real.” But what does he really write about? As he has admitted, “My books are about killing God” and “I&#039;m trying to undermine the basis of Christian belief.”

More evidence here:
http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/11/deceptive-manipulative-propagandist.html

Yet again, atheists are collecting “amazing sums” during a time of worldwide recession not in order to help anyone in real material need but in order to attempt to demonstrate just how clever they consider themselves to be—while actually loudly, proudly and expensively demonstrating their ignorance and arrogance—need any more be said?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is merely more atheist propaganda as Richard Dawkins wonders whether there is occasion for “society stepping in” and hopes that such efforts “might lead children to choose no religion at all.” Dawkins also supports the atheist summer camp “Camp Quest.”</p>
<p>Phillip Pullman states the following about his “fictional” books for children, “I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m writing fantasy. I think I&#8217;m writing realism. My books are psychologically real.” But what does he really write about? As he has admitted, “My books are about killing God” and “I&#8217;m trying to undermine the basis of Christian belief.”</p>
<p>More evidence here:<br />
<a href="http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/11/deceptive-manipulative-propagandist.html" rel="nofollow">http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/11/deceptive-manipulative-propagandist.html</a></p>
<p>Yet again, atheists are collecting “amazing sums” during a time of worldwide recession not in order to help anyone in real material need but in order to attempt to demonstrate just how clever they consider themselves to be—while actually loudly, proudly and expensively demonstrating their ignorance and arrogance—need any more be said?</p>
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		<title>By: steveb</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/19/atheist-bus-launches-new-ad-campaign/#comment-85382</link>
		<dc:creator>steveb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>38
In the UK anyone can convert to the religion of their choice, the term &#039;Jew&#039;, to denote a race&#039; is quite recent. If Jews are really a race then it would be impossible to convert to Judaeism.  I do not deny that originally, a group of people,who happened to share the same gene pool, also created a particular religion/culture, but equally any one of that original group could have converted to any other religious belief/culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>38<br />
In the UK anyone can convert to the religion of their choice, the term &#8216;Jew&#8217;, to denote a race&#8217; is quite recent. If Jews are really a race then it would be impossible to convert to Judaeism.  I do not deny that originally, a group of people,who happened to share the same gene pool, also created a particular religion/culture, but equally any one of that original group could have converted to any other religious belief/culture.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr F</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/19/atheist-bus-launches-new-ad-campaign/#comment-85375</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@39 Sorry, you&#039;re right. Ignore my last post, I was being a pedantic twat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@39 Sorry, you&#8217;re right. Ignore my last post, I was being a pedantic twat.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr F</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/19/atheist-bus-launches-new-ad-campaign/#comment-85373</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@38 Ethiopian Jews are the same race as Ashkenazy Jews? And they&#039;re both the same race as Sephardim and Mizrahim? What definition of race are you using?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@38 Ethiopian Jews are the same race as Ashkenazy Jews? And they&#8217;re both the same race as Sephardim and Mizrahim? What definition of race are you using?</p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, for goodness sake!

If Jews want to see themselves as a race, let them. If Sikhs want to see themselves as a race, let them.

It should give neither group priveleges, I&#039;d have thought.

It seems to me that we are all stuck on a fairly small island and race is irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, for goodness sake!</p>
<p>If Jews want to see themselves as a race, let them. If Sikhs want to see themselves as a race, let them.</p>
<p>It should give neither group priveleges, I&#8217;d have thought.</p>
<p>It seems to me that we are all stuck on a fairly small island and race is irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: rantersparadise</title>
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		<dc:creator>rantersparadise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ steveb

Jews are a race.

A race very or more similar to middle eastern arabs.  Jews in the middle east are semites like the rabs in the middle east. Which is why, this whole &#039;middleeastern&#039; fight is so complexed.

@ Shatterface

I agreed with you until now. I&#039;m trying to work within the UN....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ steveb</p>
<p>Jews are a race.</p>
<p>A race very or more similar to middle eastern arabs.  Jews in the middle east are semites like the rabs in the middle east. Which is why, this whole &#8216;middleeastern&#8217; fight is so complexed.</p>
<p>@ Shatterface</p>
<p>I agreed with you until now. I&#8217;m trying to work within the UN&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: steveb</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/19/atheist-bus-launches-new-ad-campaign/#comment-85365</link>
		<dc:creator>steveb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although this probably does not further the debate, Mr F@35 is quite right, labelling Jews as a race is quite recent and favours the Hitler argument.  But in most countries religious belief determines the dominant culture, UK culture is strongly underpinned by Judea/Christianity, so it is really quite difficult to avoid references to religion, even for parents who are atheist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although this probably does not further the debate, Mr F@35 is quite right, labelling Jews as a race is quite recent and favours the Hitler argument.  But in most countries religious belief determines the dominant culture, UK culture is strongly underpinned by Judea/Christianity, so it is really quite difficult to avoid references to religion, even for parents who are atheist.</p>
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		<title>By: Shatterface</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/19/atheist-bus-launches-new-ad-campaign/#comment-85360</link>
		<dc:creator>Shatterface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;The more we’re progressing in terms of ideas/tech, the more communities are being indictrinated by people who see things in a black and white way with a little bow on the top.&#039;

And they are very likely to get their loony ideas protected by the UN if they get their way, so make the best of the atheist bus now because future generations may not be so lucky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;The more we’re progressing in terms of ideas/tech, the more communities are being indictrinated by people who see things in a black and white way with a little bow on the top.&#8217;</p>
<p>And they are very likely to get their loony ideas protected by the UN if they get their way, so make the best of the atheist bus now because future generations may not be so lucky.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@33 I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s true. To begin with &quot;race&quot; is a pretty dodgy cocept in any circumstances. I think DHG is right about Sikhs and calling Jews a race is really stretching things - sephardic Jews are Southern European, Ashkenazy Jews are North and Eastern European, Mizrahi Jews are from Asia Minor and Arabia, Falasha (or Kayla because Falasha is considered by some to be derogatory) are Ethiopian and the Lemba come from Southern Africa. So referring to a Jewish &quot;race&quot; is as nonsensical as referring to christian or muslim races.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@33 I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s true. To begin with &#8220;race&#8221; is a pretty dodgy cocept in any circumstances. I think DHG is right about Sikhs and calling Jews a race is really stretching things &#8211; sephardic Jews are Southern European, Ashkenazy Jews are North and Eastern European, Mizrahi Jews are from Asia Minor and Arabia, Falasha (or Kayla because Falasha is considered by some to be derogatory) are Ethiopian and the Lemba come from Southern Africa. So referring to a Jewish &#8220;race&#8221; is as nonsensical as referring to christian or muslim races.</p>
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		<title>By: DHG</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/19/atheist-bus-launches-new-ad-campaign/#comment-85355</link>
		<dc:creator>DHG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not an expert on the matter but I don&#039;t think Sikhs are a race at all but an ethnoreligious group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not an expert on the matter but I don&#8217;t think Sikhs are a race at all but an ethnoreligious group.</p>
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		<title>By: Pedant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pedant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is really pedantic but the poster includes &#039;Sikh child&#039;. As far as I am aware Sikhs are considered a race, not just a religion in the same way as Jews are. So there really are Sikh children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is really pedantic but the poster includes &#8216;Sikh child&#8217;. As far as I am aware Sikhs are considered a race, not just a religion in the same way as Jews are. So there really are Sikh children.</p>
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