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		<title>By: Shatterface</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/12/the-dna-database-fudge-continues/#comment-82974</link>
		<dc:creator>Shatterface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Pedantically, keeping innocent people’s DNA for 6 years *is* justifiable – in fact, you just did justify it. If keeping innocent’s people’s DNA for 6 years does prevent someone committing a violent crime or two (which it could. Case not proven, but it could), then your justification is right there.&#039;

Holding an innocent persons DNA profile for 6 years is no more &#039;justifyable&#039; than holding a random section of the public&#039;s DNA profile for 6 years for exactly the same reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Pedantically, keeping innocent people’s DNA for 6 years *is* justifiable – in fact, you just did justify it. If keeping innocent’s people’s DNA for 6 years does prevent someone committing a violent crime or two (which it could. Case not proven, but it could), then your justification is right there.&#8217;</p>
<p>Holding an innocent persons DNA profile for 6 years is no more &#8216;justifyable&#8217; than holding a random section of the public&#8217;s DNA profile for 6 years for exactly the same reason.</p>
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		<title>By: ukliberty</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/12/the-dna-database-fudge-continues/#comment-82868</link>
		<dc:creator>ukliberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair to the Daily Mail (shudder) it has frequently expressed concerns about the DNA database and other database and surveillance schemes.&lt;blockquote&gt;A more confident, and indeed, more liberal government, would however make the argument that we cannot create a completely secure society without making the kind of sacrifices that would reduce the amount of freedom which each and every one of us currently enjoys. As it is however, we instead have a government that is terrified both of the power of the press in one of its “fits of morality” and which knows that such woolly-thinking is hardly a vote-winner.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair to the Daily Mail (shudder) it has frequently expressed concerns about the DNA database and other database and surveillance schemes.<br />
<blockquote>A more confident, and indeed, more liberal government, would however make the argument that we cannot create a completely secure society without making the kind of sacrifices that would reduce the amount of freedom which each and every one of us currently enjoys. As it is however, we instead have a government that is terrified both of the power of the press in one of its “fits of morality” and which knows that such woolly-thinking is hardly a vote-winner.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well said.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Coxall</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/12/the-dna-database-fudge-continues/#comment-82866</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Coxall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Justifiable&quot; is one of those Princess Bride words amongst politicians. I do not think it means what they think it means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Justifiable&#8221; is one of those Princess Bride words amongst politicians. I do not think it means what they think it means.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken McKenzie</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/12/the-dna-database-fudge-continues/#comment-82862</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken McKenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pedantically, keeping innocent people&#039;s DNA for 6 years *is* justifiable - in fact, you just did justify it. If keeping innocent&#039;s people&#039;s DNA for 6 years does prevent someone committing a violent crime or two (which it could. Case not proven, but it could), then your justification is right there.

It just isn&#039;t a very good justification when set against the arguments against it. Let&#039;s try a little less hyperbole and keep with the rational arguments instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pedantically, keeping innocent people&#8217;s DNA for 6 years *is* justifiable &#8211; in fact, you just did justify it. If keeping innocent&#8217;s people&#8217;s DNA for 6 years does prevent someone committing a violent crime or two (which it could. Case not proven, but it could), then your justification is right there.</p>
<p>It just isn&#8217;t a very good justification when set against the arguments against it. Let&#8217;s try a little less hyperbole and keep with the rational arguments instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberal Conspiracy</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/12/the-dna-database-fudge-continues/#comment-82845</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberal Conspiracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;:: The DNA Database fudge continues http://bit.ly/7SYEX&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">:: The DNA Database fudge continues <a href="http://bit.ly/7SYEX" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/7SYEX</a></span></span></span></p>
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