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		<title>By: DHG</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/11/quarter-of-uk-meps-deny-global-warming-too/#comment-82594</link>
		<dc:creator>DHG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why am I not surprised...nothing must stand in the way of the free market!

Even facts.</description>
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<p>Even facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Worstall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slightly dodgy from the Lay Scientist there.

He actually asked UKIP this question:

&quot;How will you use a seat in the European Parliament to tackle climate change and its impact on the UK? &quot;

And got this answer:

&quot;UKIP: We wouldn&#039;t prioritise any of these methods. If you actually take the time to read, say, The Stern Review it says that we need to be spending some 1-2% of GDP on solving the problems of climate change. If you then look at the taxation system in the UK you&#039;ll see that we already do pay 1-2% of GDP in green taxes. Thus, if we are to believe what Lord Stern is telling us, we&#039;ve actually already done what is necessary. Of course, those who argue that we must do a great deal more than this, those who insist that this isn&#039;t enough, are also therefore arguing that it&#039;s all going to cost us a great deal more than 1-2% of GDP. One argument that is often made is that we need political union in order to deal with environmental problems such as climate change. However, this doesn&#039;t stand up to even the most rudimentary examination of the logic. All agree that we&#039;ll need the cooperation of the US, China and India in dealing with matters. But no one is arguing that we should have political union with the US, China and India whether to deal with climate change or not. So, in fact, everyone is saying that independent nations need to cooperate, without being part of one political unit, in order to solve the problem.&quot;

To say that the &quot;party line&quot; is either denialist or &quot;skeptic&quot; on hte basis of that is a pretty long stretch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slightly dodgy from the Lay Scientist there.</p>
<p>He actually asked UKIP this question:</p>
<p>&#8220;How will you use a seat in the European Parliament to tackle climate change and its impact on the UK? &#8221;</p>
<p>And got this answer:</p>
<p>&#8220;UKIP: We wouldn&#8217;t prioritise any of these methods. If you actually take the time to read, say, The Stern Review it says that we need to be spending some 1-2% of GDP on solving the problems of climate change. If you then look at the taxation system in the UK you&#8217;ll see that we already do pay 1-2% of GDP in green taxes. Thus, if we are to believe what Lord Stern is telling us, we&#8217;ve actually already done what is necessary. Of course, those who argue that we must do a great deal more than this, those who insist that this isn&#8217;t enough, are also therefore arguing that it&#8217;s all going to cost us a great deal more than 1-2% of GDP. One argument that is often made is that we need political union in order to deal with environmental problems such as climate change. However, this doesn&#8217;t stand up to even the most rudimentary examination of the logic. All agree that we&#8217;ll need the cooperation of the US, China and India in dealing with matters. But no one is arguing that we should have political union with the US, China and India whether to deal with climate change or not. So, in fact, everyone is saying that independent nations need to cooperate, without being part of one political unit, in order to solve the problem.&#8221;</p>
<p>To say that the &#8220;party line&#8221; is either denialist or &#8220;skeptic&#8221; on hte basis of that is a pretty long stretch.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Liberal Conspiracy » Quarter of UK MEPs deny global warming too -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Naadir Jeewa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naadir Jeewa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Reading: Quarter of UK MEPs deny global warming too: Recently the Next Left blog surveyed and showed th.. http://bit.ly/1FHbjq&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Meilin Song</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meilin Song</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;#LiberalConspiracy Quarter of UK MEPs deny global warming too http://tinyurl.com/yeaucb6&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Ekin Urcan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ekin Urcan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Quarter of UK MEPs deny global warming too - including entire UKIP party #ukpolitics http://bit.ly/1dbBA3 (via @politicsofuk)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Quarter of UK MEPs deny global warming too &#8211; including entire UKIP party #ukpolitics <a href="http://bit.ly/1dbBA3" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/1dbBA3</a> (via @politicsofuk)</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: kobbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>kobbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;#climatechange RT @politicsofuk 1\4 of UK MEPs deny global warming too - including entire UKIP party #ukpolitics http://bit.ly/1dbBA3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Patrick Daykin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Daykin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Liberal Conspiracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberal Conspiracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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