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	<title>Comments on: Melanie Phillips explains Gramsci</title>
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		<title>By: &#124; bella gerens &#124; Phillips v. Osler: battle of the Gramscians &#124;</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-83341</link>
		<dc:creator>&#124; bella gerens &#124; Phillips v. Osler: battle of the Gramscians &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] actually get around to reading her article until today, however, when I happened across David Osler&#8217;s reaction to it on Liberal Conspiracy. Presented with an argument by somebody I tend to disagree with, and a refutation by somebody I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] actually get around to reading her article until today, however, when I happened across David Osler&#8217;s reaction to it on Liberal Conspiracy. Presented with an argument by somebody I tend to disagree with, and a refutation by somebody I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cheesy Monkey</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-82803</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheesy Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly Hell&#039;s Mel doesn&#039;t understand Critical Theory.

Anyway, here&#039;s my, um critical theory: I think she&#039;s not got long left as clearly Dacre&#039;s mutant spunk is dissolving her septic brains…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly Hell&#8217;s Mel doesn&#8217;t understand Critical Theory.</p>
<p>Anyway, here&#8217;s my, um critical theory: I think she&#8217;s not got long left as clearly Dacre&#8217;s mutant spunk is dissolving her septic brains…</p>
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		<title>By: Bearded Socialist</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-82754</link>
		<dc:creator>Bearded Socialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Torture for her - that&#039;s the point.
Also the fact she&#039;d have to come into contact with facts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Torture for her &#8211; that&#8217;s the point.<br />
Also the fact she&#8217;d have to come into contact with facts</p>
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		<title>By: KB Player</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-82698</link>
		<dc:creator>KB Player</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Mad Mel in a library, now that would be torture&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Torture for her, everyone going Ssssh, Ssssh at her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Mad Mel in a library, now that would be torture</p></blockquote>
<p>Torture for her, everyone going Ssssh, Ssssh at her.</p>
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		<title>By: Bearded Socialist</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-82568</link>
		<dc:creator>Bearded Socialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>30. Kojak
I thank you.

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Mad Mel in a library, now that would be torture</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>30. Kojak<br />
I thank you.</p>
<p>31<br />
Mad Mel in a library, now that would be torture</p>
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		<title>By: FlyingRodent</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-82550</link>
		<dc:creator>FlyingRodent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Do you have a particular Gulag in mind where she can recieve treatment until she agrees with you?&lt;/em&gt; 

I think a few years in a library might do her more good, preferably researching logic and critical thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Do you have a particular Gulag in mind where she can recieve treatment until she agrees with you?</em> </p>
<p>I think a few years in a library might do her more good, preferably researching logic and critical thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Kojak</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-82548</link>
		<dc:creator>Kojak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bearded Socialist re: Comment 29,

To you sir, I doff my bowler hat. 
You truely are a comrade with a sense of humour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bearded Socialist re: Comment 29,</p>
<p>To you sir, I doff my bowler hat.<br />
You truely are a comrade with a sense of humour.</p>
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		<title>By: Bearded Socialist</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-82544</link>
		<dc:creator>Bearded Socialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having looked up on google what a Lada is, i think it only right she&#039;s put on bendy buses to get there</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having looked up on google what a Lada is, i think it only right she&#8217;s put on bendy buses to get there</p>
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		<title>By: Bearded Socialist</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-82543</link>
		<dc:creator>Bearded Socialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>she&#039;s a wind-up merchant. Part of her success is that she riles the likes of us, so we can have a little pop back at her for winding us up. She certainly does that well, she makes steam come out of my ears.
As long as it&#039;s light hearted and not too serious, there&#039;s little wrong with it. It&#039;s not serious, but shouldn&#039;t be taken as serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>she&#8217;s a wind-up merchant. Part of her success is that she riles the likes of us, so we can have a little pop back at her for winding us up. She certainly does that well, she makes steam come out of my ears.<br />
As long as it&#8217;s light hearted and not too serious, there&#8217;s little wrong with it. It&#8217;s not serious, but shouldn&#8217;t be taken as serious.</p>
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		<title>By: Kojak</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-82542</link>
		<dc:creator>Kojak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bearded Socialist re: Comment 24,

Any idea how big your carbon footprint will be if you use your Lada to take her there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bearded Socialist re: Comment 24,</p>
<p>Any idea how big your carbon footprint will be if you use your Lada to take her there?</p>
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		<title>By: Kojak</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-82540</link>
		<dc:creator>Kojak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frollix22 re: Comment 25,

Me, a troll?

Would that make Bearded Socialist&#039;s comment 24 a &#039;Counter-troll statement&#039;?

Don&#039;t be daft bandying around the word troll just because I show some discomfort at how people on this board delight in having a go at Melanie Phillips. 

You might not think she reaches the right conclusions but let&#039;s not bury our heads in the sand and pretend some of the issues she discusses are of no concern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frollix22 re: Comment 25,</p>
<p>Me, a troll?</p>
<p>Would that make Bearded Socialist&#8217;s comment 24 a &#8216;Counter-troll statement&#8217;?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be daft bandying around the word troll just because I show some discomfort at how people on this board delight in having a go at Melanie Phillips. </p>
<p>You might not think she reaches the right conclusions but let&#8217;s not bury our heads in the sand and pretend some of the issues she discusses are of no concern.</p>
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		<title>By: frolix22</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-82535</link>
		<dc:creator>frolix22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear, Kojak. Are you deteriorating into an outright troll? Comment 23 suggests so, sadly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear, Kojak. Are you deteriorating into an outright troll? Comment 23 suggests so, sadly.</p>
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		<title>By: Bearded Socialist</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-82534</link>
		<dc:creator>Bearded Socialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks.
You forgot you put &#039;treatment&#039; between two apostrophes.
The Bearded Socialist Gulag for the Criminally Right Wing should do</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.<br />
You forgot you put &#8216;treatment&#8217; between two apostrophes.<br />
The Bearded Socialist Gulag for the Criminally Right Wing should do</p>
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		<title>By: Kojak</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-82532</link>
		<dc:creator>Kojak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bearded Socialist re: Comment 22,

Said like a true socialist.
Do you have a particular Gulag in mind where she can recieve treatment until she agrees with you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bearded Socialist re: Comment 22,</p>
<p>Said like a true socialist.<br />
Do you have a particular Gulag in mind where she can recieve treatment until she agrees with you?</p>
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		<title>By: Bearded Socialist</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-82531</link>
		<dc:creator>Bearded Socialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll admit that her possible influence worries me.
But anyone that mental worries me, she should be getting the treatment she needs rather than more people agreeing with her, they only encourage her</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll admit that her possible influence worries me.<br />
But anyone that mental worries me, she should be getting the treatment she needs rather than more people agreeing with her, they only encourage her</p>
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		<title>By: Kojak</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-82528</link>
		<dc:creator>Kojak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boys and Girls,

It does amuse me how all of you are so frightened of Melanie Phillips.

You all seem to think she is Ellsworth Toohey. 

Oh, the irony - you couldn&#039;t make it any funnier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boys and Girls,</p>
<p>It does amuse me how all of you are so frightened of Melanie Phillips.</p>
<p>You all seem to think she is Ellsworth Toohey. </p>
<p>Oh, the irony &#8211; you couldn&#8217;t make it any funnier.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Bygraves</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-82558</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Bygraves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Haha! Gramsci explained for Daily Mail readers... I&#039;ve seen it all now RT @libcon Melanie Phillips explains Gramsci http://bit.ly/4FI8JV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Haha! Gramsci explained for Daily Mail readers&#8230; I&#39;ve seen it all now RT @libcon Melanie Phillips explains Gramsci <a href="http://bit.ly/4FI8JV" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/4FI8JV</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Stewart</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-82547</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;#LiberalConspiracy Melanie Phillips explains Gramsci http://tinyurl.com/ylq7fyd #dailyfail&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">#LiberalConspiracy Melanie Phillips explains Gramsci <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ylq7fyd" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/ylq7fyd</a> #dailyfail</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Chris C</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-82488</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What this is, right... 

...after spending four years studying Gramsci in detail, Melanie Phillips comes along and tries to summarise it in a newspaper column and gets it drastically wrong. I still rock up, read it and think, &quot;hey, maybe she&#039;s read stuff I haven&#039;t read?&quot;

I think she has. I think she&#039;s read something that doesn&#039;t exist. I think Mel&#039;s turned so bulletheaded that she can&#039;t really read anything except what she wants to read in things.

She&#039;s so popular because she can say the stupid things that people think in a very eloquent manner. People often mistake eloquence in the proposition for actual substance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What this is, right&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8230;after spending four years studying Gramsci in detail, Melanie Phillips comes along and tries to summarise it in a newspaper column and gets it drastically wrong. I still rock up, read it and think, &#8220;hey, maybe she&#8217;s read stuff I haven&#8217;t read?&#8221;</p>
<p>I think she has. I think she&#8217;s read something that doesn&#8217;t exist. I think Mel&#8217;s turned so bulletheaded that she can&#8217;t really read anything except what she wants to read in things.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s so popular because she can say the stupid things that people think in a very eloquent manner. People often mistake eloquence in the proposition for actual substance.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Ward</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-82522</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Discussion of Mad Mel on Gramsci: http://bit.ly/3kqePb - absolutely splendid article&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Discussion of Mad Mel on Gramsci: <a href="http://bit.ly/3kqePb" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/3kqePb</a> &#8211; absolutely splendid article</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Bearded Socialist</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-82369</link>
		<dc:creator>Bearded Socialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dagenham?
Mad Mel is Southend Central</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dagenham?<br />
Mad Mel is Southend Central</p>
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		<title>By: Bearded Socialist</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-82367</link>
		<dc:creator>Bearded Socialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;d be funny if she wasn&#039;t
a) mental
b) read by so many people.

Ah, those liberal fascists they&#039;re always going on about. How everyone has to be a liberal, and those that aren&#039;t are, well, you&#039;re right, not carried off in the middle of the night. They are tolerated! Shock horror.
Besides, Phillips and her like only believe in free speech for themselves and being bloody great wind-up merchants</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;d be funny if she wasn&#8217;t<br />
a) mental<br />
b) read by so many people.</p>
<p>Ah, those liberal fascists they&#8217;re always going on about. How everyone has to be a liberal, and those that aren&#8217;t are, well, you&#8217;re right, not carried off in the middle of the night. They are tolerated! Shock horror.<br />
Besides, Phillips and her like only believe in free speech for themselves and being bloody great wind-up merchants</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Coxall</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-82362</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Coxall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If our revolutionary fervour is strict, we have no need of fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If our revolutionary fervour is strict, we have no need of fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Shatterface</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-82358</link>
		<dc:creator>Shatterface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seam to remember Gramsci was a bit of a prude and a killjoy because free love and having a good time was sapping revolutionary fervour. 

Perhaps he and Flip aren&#039;t so far apart after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seam to remember Gramsci was a bit of a prude and a killjoy because free love and having a good time was sapping revolutionary fervour. </p>
<p>Perhaps he and Flip aren&#8217;t so far apart after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Shatterface</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/10/melanie-phillips-explains-gramsci/#comment-82354</link>
		<dc:creator>Shatterface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve got a Slag Lane.

Just saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve got a Slag Lane.</p>
<p>Just saying.</p>
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