Perhaps you should tell Mr. Hague he shouldn’t get so excited about it.

If so, great work!

Party before country every time.

So to support this, can I suggest reading that well known Conservative supporter Michael White: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2009/oct/30/schudrich-hague-miliband-kaminski. I think you may find it interesting.

Alternatively you could believe Mr Helm’s strange assertions that many (unspecified) Jews are still opposed to the associations of the Conservatives with their Polish allies (I note that Mr Helm does not mention the Latvians any more). Of course, it might be worth checking their political stance first.

1. Since Mr D. Milliband started publicising this (and I know he was not the first), Labour’s poll position has actually got worse. Clearly this is hurting the Conservatives a lot then.

2. That picking on a politician’s youthful follies is hardly relevant nowadays: faced with evidence, people can change their minds. And Mr Kaminski’s brief association with a party which is now neo-Nazi no more makes Mr Kaminski a neo-Nazi than the dalliance of several members of the governing party of the United Kingdom with various extreme left-wing organisations in their youths makes them communists. Life is a journey, and postcards from the past are not valid criticisms of people who no longer are of the views shown on them. Especially when, if this is a valid technique, some of your own MPs are vulnerable to it.

3. The Chief Rabbi of Poland never said Mr Kaminski was anti-semetic, and appears to have spent a lot of time clarifying this fact. What was said was that Mr Kaminski had been associated with an unpleasant party, and in response to an unpublished question (which would provide context) that people should be aware of this – which could at a strech no more ridiculous than interpreting this as an accusation of anti-semeticism be regarded as saying Mr Cameroon should check his new ally’s background but go ahead with the association if he was happy. Anyone bothered enough to read who is not automatically going to follow the Labour spin line can work this out, and it makes those making the claims look dishonest and manipulative, which is an image that the Labour party desperately needs to lose to have a chance at the next election.

4. The key anti-Semetic point of not apologising for a massacare of Jews by Polish criminals is against a position also adopted by the Polish members of the EPP. Indeed, I am not personally inclined to appologise (i.e. accept responsibility) for anything my grandparent’s generation did some thirty years before my birth, simply because they may have been British. I do not expect modern Germans to appologise for Nazism even, and this is a consistent and logical point. You appologise for your errors. Note also that much of the country, including Labour supporters, would appear to believe apologies to be due from our current government over various issues, so it is hardly wise to emphasise people that you dislike not apologising whilst ignoring the fact that there are demands for a mea culpa from you at the same time.

5. Bluntly, people know what racism is, and are mostly appaled by it. By devaluing it by trying to smear a clearly non-racist party in Britain as racist by association Labour are playing into the hands of the British National Party, as people reason that if the acceptable Conservative party are apparently racist in the eyes of others, there is less problem with voting for another avowedly non-racist (in their own description of themselves) party with dubious associations. And these voters are more likely (by a margin of 2:1 according to the last survey) to be from normally Labour than normally Conservative party supporting households.

That’s five reasons why this line of attack may not be a good idea from the point of view of the Labour party, and this ignored the fact that it is missing the chance to attack the Conservatives (if you believe in the benefits of Europe, be prepared to attack on them, or focus on something else) or better, spend some time devising a coherent and attractive new approach to government. The small group of journalists, bloggers and foreign secretaries involved in this stupid campaign should consider whether it is not merely shooting Labour in the foot.

http://order-order.com/2009/10/30/tony-blair-had-downing-street-dinner-with-kaminski/

I just wonder whether a majority of EU states will want such a klutz as their high panjandrum.
He is an embarrassment.
In any event he himself will soon realise that going round attacking other countries’ MEP’s for domestic political purposes will not do his case much good generally, not just in Poland.

Meanwhile I think it is nothing more than a statement of fact that the interview with the chief rabbi has taken whatever sting there was out of this issue.

I wouldn’t get all my propaganda from rightwing blogs if I was you, it makes you look like a tit more often than not.
http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/10/poland-cannot-veto-miliband/

Keep up the pressure on the disgusting Kaminski -squeeze the Tories until their pips squeak

Surely, a more important issue is the Blair bid for the EU presidency:

“Tony Blair does want to be the first president of the European Council, his ally Lord Mandelson has told the BBC.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8334914.stm

Try this in Friday’s FT on: Blair Inc
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/68949294-c4d7-11de-8d54-00144feab49a.html?nclick_check=1

This post was mentioned on Twitter by Liberal Conspiracy: The Conservative Party is in deep trouble over Europe http://bit.ly/1bDs4s…

@18 Of course Cameron won’t be ignored. He’ll be kept informed of EPP policy. He’ll get to discuss it in the council. The Commission will request his government’s input. The US administration will take note of the extent of his influence on European decisions on trade and military cooperation, and consult him accordingly.

When Mr Cameron stamps his feet, everybody will pay attention and note that the representatives of the country with the fourth largest GDP in Europe have something to say – but since they’ll also know that the ruling party in Britain is fundamentally opposed to the European project, and that a referendum would probably result in Britain leaving the EU, they might not be that sympathetic and understanding. They might just feel that Mr Cameron used up all his credit even before becoming Prime Minister.

Polish Rabbi has now stated unequivocally and unambiguously that he does not think that the Polish politician is ant-semitic.

Why is this a problem for the Conservative party?

Every time you make an obviously stupid claim in public, you make every other claim you ever make less effective.

Way to go engaging with the fact that the accusation has been proved false.

Is this not Whataboutery?