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By: Griffin sets sights on Westminster « News

Griffin sets sights on Westminster « News — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:58:31 +0000

[...] First, Griffin is clearly banking on his increased media profile to give the BNP a boost. At the press conference he said “people vote for someone they recognise … and respect”. But his last media appearance, which brought a tonne of coverage, brought no bounce to the BNP. [...]

By: Two-thirds in favour of bank windfall tax | Left Foot Forward

Two-thirds in favour of bank windfall tax | Left Foot Forward — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:16:09 +0000

[...] sole commentary on the web is provided by Liberal Conspiracy’s Chris Baynard who early this morning wrote: “66% of all voters, including 68% of Conservatives and 76% of [...]

By: BNP ‘Gaming’ YouGov Adds Another Chapter To Question Time Blockbuster « Jon Bernstein

Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:30:11 +0000

[...] we had the post-show opinion polls which rather conveniently provided ammunition for both the ‘Griffin blew it’ and the ‘BNP [...]

By: DHG

DHG — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:52:46 +0000

The future’s bright Phil, the future’s not racist.

By: A Very Public Sociologist

A Very Public Sociologist — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:09:49 +0000

What’s heartening about this poll is support for the BNP and UKIP among 18-24 year olds doesn’t even register

By: DHG

DHG — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:07:40 +0000

I know that Gareth but 2% is not a national movement is it? It’s not a case of some areas being dominated, those areas are far and few between and considering how many racists musn’t vote for them; I think we are getting off lightly.

You must be looking at a different poll, I see no bounce for them.

By: Gareth Nicholas

Gareth Nicholas — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:02:26 +0000

The point is, though, they don’t need to overtake the Greens to cause a problem! Their support is concentrated in certain areas. This poll dilutes that down by including all of Scotland, Wales, the West Country, most of London, East Anglia, etc where they have no support. Small national increase = bigger local increase where they are strong = more council seats, better general election results and more influence on national politics.

“But glad to see there was none of the predicted bounce.”
This poll shows nothing of the sort! If anything, it shows that there was a “bounce”. It certainly doesn’t show that there wasn’t one.

By: Tim Worstall

Tim Worstall — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:54:50 +0000

“66% of all voters, including 68% of Conservatives and 76% of Labour supporters agreed that a Windfall Tax should be imposed on banks. Only 25% disagreed.”

Which shows that only 25% of the electorate have their heads screwed on the right way around.

At the moment we actually want the banks to recapitalise. Retained profit is one of the ways that they will do this. Taking more of their profit in tax so that they do not retain capital and thus do not recapitalise is simply stupid.

One other argument (which I’ve seen at Murphy’s) is that investors should pump in more capital, it shouldn’t be done by retaining earnings. But if you’ve just raised the tax on the returns to be had by putting in more capital as an investor then you’ve just dissuaded people from putting in more capital, haven’t you?

Plus, of course, in version 2, in those banks where the government owns stock, either the taxpayer has to stump up for the rights issue or the government holding gets diluted.

By: DHG

DHG — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:49:01 +0000

When it is rising from the height of a gnat’s knees to its balls I am not too worried, if they ever overtake the Greens I’ll be worried.

But glad to see there was none of the predicted bounce.

By: Gareth Nicholas

Gareth Nicholas — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:24:59 +0000

This headline is highly misleading: if you look at ComRes’s last two polls, the BNP’s vote has actually increased.

ComRes/Independent:
18th Oct – BNP: 1.2% ± 0.8%
25th Oct – BNP: 2.0% ± 1.0%

Conclusion: the BNP vote has probably risen between the two polls.

There are a few caveats to this:
The BNP’s overall national vote in the General election (which this measures) is low, so this is only a weak indicator of their support in areas in which they are strong and in election formats in which they command more support (European, local).

By: Philip Matusavage

Philip Matusavage — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:18:34 +0000

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By: Philip Matusavage

Philip Matusavage — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:18:06 +0000

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By: Philip M

Philip M — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:18:06 +0000

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Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:12:50 +0000

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By: Philip Matusavage

Philip Matusavage — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:18:34 +0000

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By: Philip M

Philip M — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:18:34 +0000

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By: Philip Matusavage

Philip Matusavage — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:18:06 +0000

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By: Liberal Conspiracy

Liberal Conspiracy — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:47:16 +0000

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By: poligeek

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By: Liberal Conspiracy

Liberal Conspiracy — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:47:16 +0000

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poligeek — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:24:22 +0000

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