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		<title>By: Donut Hinge Party</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/23/griffin-claims-he-got-on-well-with-greer/#comment-72051</link>
		<dc:creator>Donut Hinge Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went into a cafe where arab guys were standing ouside smoking on Lee High Road this afternoon, and as I walked down to the back of their cafe, to just take a look, I was asked what I was doing.
”Just looking” I said, but they still thought my behavoir was suspicious.

Well, yeah. If someone came into a greasy spoon and started rattling the drawers with no intention of buying anything, I&#039;d be a mite concerned. Maybe they&#039;re from the Department of Health or something.

&quot;I was invited to come in and drink coffee, but declined as I didn’t want to make a big deal of my just looking about.&quot;

The absolute swine!! Send them back now!

&quot;It felt that they were treating me as an anomaly. A bit of a freak.
I’d just had my lunch directly across the road in a Chinese noodle place.&quot;

I think it&#039;s probably more for the novelty value than any sense of being treated like a Victorian sideshow. Personally, I love Arab cuisine; a bit of pigeon pie covered in sugar.

Chinese food = good; Arab food = bad, is that the gist of your argument?

Would a McDonalds make you feel better? Irish brothers in America selling German food? Ironically generally staffed by non native English speakers because no bugger will work for the wage they offer. Is that the RIGHT kind of food?

Or should we just go back to people hawking their turnips in wooden trays?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went into a cafe where arab guys were standing ouside smoking on Lee High Road this afternoon, and as I walked down to the back of their cafe, to just take a look, I was asked what I was doing.<br />
”Just looking” I said, but they still thought my behavoir was suspicious.</p>
<p>Well, yeah. If someone came into a greasy spoon and started rattling the drawers with no intention of buying anything, I&#8217;d be a mite concerned. Maybe they&#8217;re from the Department of Health or something.</p>
<p>&#8220;I was invited to come in and drink coffee, but declined as I didn’t want to make a big deal of my just looking about.&#8221;</p>
<p>The absolute swine!! Send them back now!</p>
<p>&#8220;It felt that they were treating me as an anomaly. A bit of a freak.<br />
I’d just had my lunch directly across the road in a Chinese noodle place.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s probably more for the novelty value than any sense of being treated like a Victorian sideshow. Personally, I love Arab cuisine; a bit of pigeon pie covered in sugar.</p>
<p>Chinese food = good; Arab food = bad, is that the gist of your argument?</p>
<p>Would a McDonalds make you feel better? Irish brothers in America selling German food? Ironically generally staffed by non native English speakers because no bugger will work for the wage they offer. Is that the RIGHT kind of food?</p>
<p>Or should we just go back to people hawking their turnips in wooden trays?</p>
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		<title>By: Graham C Lindsay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham C Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The audience and Bonnie Greer were the best parts of this Question Time. She showed intelligence and was a clear example of why the BNP are so intrinsically wrong, Griffin was a mess. I am sure if he became elected to the House of Commons, which could happen, he would be eaten alive by the real politicians in the house.  He seemed incapable of honestly stating his party&#039;s policies or is his party in shock since it now has to stop being a whites only and gay hating party? As the skin of the snake fell off the serpent that was  the National Front and became the  serpent of the BNP is the BNP being forced into a new metamorphosis? Or is it the end for the BNP? Who knows. Will there be a schism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The audience and Bonnie Greer were the best parts of this Question Time. She showed intelligence and was a clear example of why the BNP are so intrinsically wrong, Griffin was a mess. I am sure if he became elected to the House of Commons, which could happen, he would be eaten alive by the real politicians in the house.  He seemed incapable of honestly stating his party&#8217;s policies or is his party in shock since it now has to stop being a whites only and gay hating party? As the skin of the snake fell off the serpent that was  the National Front and became the  serpent of the BNP is the BNP being forced into a new metamorphosis? Or is it the end for the BNP? Who knows. Will there be a schism?</p>
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		<title>By: damon</title>
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		<dc:creator>damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 21:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They couldn&#039;t play it &lt;I&gt;straight&lt;/I&gt;
Anymore than I could play straight to being in Lewisham this afternoon.

The Lewisham shopping center on a saturday afternoon is a sight to see.
No middle class people go there. It&#039;s a ghetto shopping center.

I went into a cafe where arab guys were standing ouside smoking on Lee High Road this afternoon, and as I walked down to the back of their cafe, to just take a look, I was asked what I was doing. 
&#039;&#039;Just looking&#039;&#039; I said, but they still thought my behavoir was suspicious.
I talked with one of the guys for a few minutes and said I was like a tourist who knew Lee High Road from years ago, but I hadn&#039;t seen their cafe before.
I was invited to come in and drink coffee, but declined as I didn&#039;t want to make a big deal of my just looking about.
It felt that they were treating me as an anomaly. A bit of a freak.
I&#039;d just had my lunch directly across the road in a Chinese noodle place.

Where just a few doors along is a Baltic/Polish supermarket that has a Bureau de change shop frontage and seems to be a space for people from the Baltic countriies.

Lewisham is a place that Nick Griffin would love to make a documentary about.
I guess that he has to be prevented from doing so. And be called a Nazi (etc) if he did.

Because saying things like &#039;&#039;do you want your local high street to become like Lewisham or Lee High Road?&#039;&#039; ...  might get a lot of people saying &lt;B&gt;&#039;no&#039;&lt;/B&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They couldn&#8217;t play it <i>straight</i><br />
Anymore than I could play straight to being in Lewisham this afternoon.</p>
<p>The Lewisham shopping center on a saturday afternoon is a sight to see.<br />
No middle class people go there. It&#8217;s a ghetto shopping center.</p>
<p>I went into a cafe where arab guys were standing ouside smoking on Lee High Road this afternoon, and as I walked down to the back of their cafe, to just take a look, I was asked what I was doing.<br />
&#8221;Just looking&#8221; I said, but they still thought my behavoir was suspicious.<br />
I talked with one of the guys for a few minutes and said I was like a tourist who knew Lee High Road from years ago, but I hadn&#8217;t seen their cafe before.<br />
I was invited to come in and drink coffee, but declined as I didn&#8217;t want to make a big deal of my just looking about.<br />
It felt that they were treating me as an anomaly. A bit of a freak.<br />
I&#8217;d just had my lunch directly across the road in a Chinese noodle place.</p>
<p>Where just a few doors along is a Baltic/Polish supermarket that has a Bureau de change shop frontage and seems to be a space for people from the Baltic countriies.</p>
<p>Lewisham is a place that Nick Griffin would love to make a documentary about.<br />
I guess that he has to be prevented from doing so. And be called a Nazi (etc) if he did.</p>
<p>Because saying things like &#8221;do you want your local high street to become like Lewisham or Lee High Road?&#8221; &#8230;  might get a lot of people saying <b>&#8216;no&#8217;</b></p>
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		<title>By: Pat Harrington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Harrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that Question Time should have followed the normal format. I would have been interested to see how Nick Griffin handled questions on topical news items and how deep his knowledge was. I also feel that changing the format into a Pantomime in which he was cast as the villain was wrong morally and tactically (as many are perhaps coming to realise). Once the decision had been made to have him on the show the BBC should have played it straight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Question Time should have followed the normal format. I would have been interested to see how Nick Griffin handled questions on topical news items and how deep his knowledge was. I also feel that changing the format into a Pantomime in which he was cast as the villain was wrong morally and tactically (as many are perhaps coming to realise). Once the decision had been made to have him on the show the BBC should have played it straight.</p>
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		<title>By: Question Time: A reminder that we should use the Student Vote to Combat Fascism. &#124; .:&#124; The Free Revolution &#124;:.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Question Time: A reminder that we should use the Student Vote to Combat Fascism. &#124; .:&#124; The Free Revolution &#124;:.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this morning, Nick Griffin released a statement claiming that ‘Millions of people’ know ‘Nick Griffin summed up exactly how they, and all [...]</description>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-10-23 &#171; Embololalia</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2009-10-23 &#171; Embololalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Liberal Conspiracy » Griffin claims he got on well with Greer Nick Griffin has sent out this missive to supporters following BBC Question Time last night. (tags: scumbags bnp) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bearded Socialist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bearded Socialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>19.  comment by
     Andy Gilmour

They were certainly not under represented, despite what the right is saying today. They are a minority.

That question about immigration and unemployment was the most important question of the right in terms of addressing the BNP and no one even came close to tackling it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>19.  comment by<br />
     Andy Gilmour</p>
<p>They were certainly not under represented, despite what the right is saying today. They are a minority.</p>
<p>That question about immigration and unemployment was the most important question of the right in terms of addressing the BNP and no one even came close to tackling it</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Gilmour</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Gilmour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;BBC audience selection process is clearly guaranteed to ‘weed out’ politically incorrect guests&quot;

eh?

in terms of their proportion of voters, BNP-supporting audience members who questioned/commented were, if anything, over-represented.

And not exactly the best advert for his party.

&quot;Why is there immigration when there&#039;s white unemployment?&quot;, for instance.

What a surprise they feel the need to resort to lying about this, in the midst of so many other lies...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;BBC audience selection process is clearly guaranteed to ‘weed out’ politically incorrect guests&#8221;</p>
<p>eh?</p>
<p>in terms of their proportion of voters, BNP-supporting audience members who questioned/commented were, if anything, over-represented.</p>
<p>And not exactly the best advert for his party.</p>
<p>&#8220;Why is there immigration when there&#8217;s white unemployment?&#8221;, for instance.</p>
<p>What a surprise they feel the need to resort to lying about this, in the midst of so many other lies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cjcjc</title>
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		<dc:creator>cjcjc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@8 - yes, excellent description and much better than the approach of the others.

I look forward to Jacqui Smith&#039;s humiliation next week - it won&#039;t be such a set-up but I am sure she will get what she deserves</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@8 &#8211; yes, excellent description and much better than the approach of the others.</p>
<p>I look forward to Jacqui Smith&#8217;s humiliation next week &#8211; it won&#8217;t be such a set-up but I am sure she will get what she deserves</p>
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		<title>By: Second Thoughts &#171; Bad Conscience</title>
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		<dc:creator>Second Thoughts &#171; Bad Conscience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] consider the email the BNP sent out after the programme, which contained (alleged) quotes such [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tim f</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim f</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re capitalising Silent Majority now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re capitalising Silent Majority now?</p>
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		<title>By: DHG</title>
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		<dc:creator>DHG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Binky:

Yes, I have. What&#039;s your point?

Not sure why you feel the need to knock Greer&#039;s excellent writing ability, combine that with a comment about how the BNP have had an alleged increase in new applications and you come out of that comment looking a bit odd.

Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Binky:</p>
<p>Yes, I have. What&#8217;s your point?</p>
<p>Not sure why you feel the need to knock Greer&#8217;s excellent writing ability, combine that with a comment about how the BNP have had an alleged increase in new applications and you come out of that comment looking a bit odd.</p>
<p>Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Spartan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spartan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole format of QT was changed. Did they really have to resort to that to discredit Griffin? l can&#039;t stand the man but to change the format into a bear trap was totally unnecessary and somewhat counter-productive. Dimbers statrted off with usual &#039;the panelists don&#039;t know the questions they&#039;ll be asked&#039; ... first question and Jack Straw goes to the top of his notes to reply! Also Greer&#039;s comments about people not being able to live in UK  re last ice age? Total crap!  see http://www.britarch.ac.uk/ba/ba70/feat1.shtml

You don&#039;t have to stack the deck or resort to porkies to show what Griffin and the BNP are. To do so reaks of uncertainty and fear.

Jacqui Smith to face the same format next week? l somehow doubt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole format of QT was changed. Did they really have to resort to that to discredit Griffin? l can&#8217;t stand the man but to change the format into a bear trap was totally unnecessary and somewhat counter-productive. Dimbers statrted off with usual &#8216;the panelists don&#8217;t know the questions they&#8217;ll be asked&#8217; &#8230; first question and Jack Straw goes to the top of his notes to reply! Also Greer&#8217;s comments about people not being able to live in UK  re last ice age? Total crap!  see <a href="http://www.britarch.ac.uk/ba/ba70/feat1.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.britarch.ac.uk/ba/ba70/feat1.shtml</a></p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to stack the deck or resort to porkies to show what Griffin and the BNP are. To do so reaks of uncertainty and fear.</p>
<p>Jacqui Smith to face the same format next week? l somehow doubt it.</p>
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		<title>By: Shatterface</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shatterface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Why does that leave me thinking of some awkward teenager who’s just made a cack-handed attempt to chat up the most glamorous girl in the classroom, and then walked away bragging to his mates, “Yeah, yeah, she totally fancied me” while ignoring the look of utter disdain on her face.&#039;

The word &#039;stalker&#039; springs to mind.

He&#039;s probably got a shrine to her in his bedroom with a lock of her hair and some stolen underwear. Probably dances around his house wearing them, blacked, up with his balls tucked between his legs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Why does that leave me thinking of some awkward teenager who’s just made a cack-handed attempt to chat up the most glamorous girl in the classroom, and then walked away bragging to his mates, “Yeah, yeah, she totally fancied me” while ignoring the look of utter disdain on her face.&#8217;</p>
<p>The word &#8216;stalker&#8217; springs to mind.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s probably got a shrine to her in his bedroom with a lock of her hair and some stolen underwear. Probably dances around his house wearing them, blacked, up with his balls tucked between his legs.</p>
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		<title>By: Barney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greer tells a different story:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;We were seated next to each other and as we were having our microphones attached, he leaned towards me like I was his new best friend and tried to make small talk. &quot;Bonnie, how many times have you been on?&quot; he asked. &quot;Bonnie, do you find it scary?&quot; I looked him straight in the eye. &quot;No,&quot; I replied sharply, &quot;but you might.&quot;

Speaking exclusively to the Evening Standard immediately after filming at Television Centre in west London, Greer, 60, describes - over a stiff vodka - the ordeal of sitting next to Griffin as &quot;probably the weirdest and most creepy experience of my life&quot;.

&quot;I spent the entire night with my back turned to him. At one point, I had to restrain myself from slapping him. But it was worth it,&quot; she insists, &quot;because he was totally trounced. I had thought we&#039;d face a formidable orator, somebody who knew his facts and had his ducks in a row but the guy was a mess!
...
She shrugs. &quot;Afterwards, there is usually a communal supper for all the panellists. But not this time. Nobody could bring themselves to break bread with Nick Griffin.&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23760044-when-bonnie-greer-met-nick-griffin.do&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Evening Standard&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greer tells a different story:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We were seated next to each other and as we were having our microphones attached, he leaned towards me like I was his new best friend and tried to make small talk. &#8220;Bonnie, how many times have you been on?&#8221; he asked. &#8220;Bonnie, do you find it scary?&#8221; I looked him straight in the eye. &#8220;No,&#8221; I replied sharply, &#8220;but you might.&#8221;</p>
<p>Speaking exclusively to the Evening Standard immediately after filming at Television Centre in west London, Greer, 60, describes &#8211; over a stiff vodka &#8211; the ordeal of sitting next to Griffin as &#8220;probably the weirdest and most creepy experience of my life&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;I spent the entire night with my back turned to him. At one point, I had to restrain myself from slapping him. But it was worth it,&#8221; she insists, &#8220;because he was totally trounced. I had thought we&#8217;d face a formidable orator, somebody who knew his facts and had his ducks in a row but the guy was a mess!<br />
&#8230;<br />
She shrugs. &#8220;Afterwards, there is usually a communal supper for all the panellists. But not this time. Nobody could bring themselves to break bread with Nick Griffin.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23760044-when-bonnie-greer-met-nick-griffin.do" rel="nofollow">Evening Standard</a></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Bearded Socialist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bearded Socialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Straw and Warsi had a good debate about immigration, but overall none of them really tackled a big issue, which is that people buy the myth that English people have been made into second-class citizens.
The BNP thrive on the idea of a conspiracy, that X, Y and Z are conspiring against X, Y, and Z (the indigenous British in this case).
It&#039;s a shame that immigration is not tackled and then it takes the BNP getting 1 million votes before it enters mainstream debate, and then most of the show is about it.
Griffin showed himself as a far-right nasty-man who relies on the idea of this conspiracy, but the issues which force people into his grubby paws were not properly addressed. Straw tried, and I thought did pretty well all night, but didn&#039;t make the case forcefully enough. People need to know that it&#039;s ok to feel proud to be British without being labelled racist, which is something the Tories have traditionally done far better than Labour. Due, I think, to our more bleeding heart liberal wing (including me to some extent).
Griffin&#039;s a right winger, so I don&#039;t like him. But if enough people shun pride in their origins (e.g. being British), there is a vacuum created into which the likes of Griffin step.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Straw and Warsi had a good debate about immigration, but overall none of them really tackled a big issue, which is that people buy the myth that English people have been made into second-class citizens.<br />
The BNP thrive on the idea of a conspiracy, that X, Y and Z are conspiring against X, Y, and Z (the indigenous British in this case).<br />
It&#8217;s a shame that immigration is not tackled and then it takes the BNP getting 1 million votes before it enters mainstream debate, and then most of the show is about it.<br />
Griffin showed himself as a far-right nasty-man who relies on the idea of this conspiracy, but the issues which force people into his grubby paws were not properly addressed. Straw tried, and I thought did pretty well all night, but didn&#8217;t make the case forcefully enough. People need to know that it&#8217;s ok to feel proud to be British without being labelled racist, which is something the Tories have traditionally done far better than Labour. Due, I think, to our more bleeding heart liberal wing (including me to some extent).<br />
Griffin&#8217;s a right winger, so I don&#8217;t like him. But if enough people shun pride in their origins (e.g. being British), there is a vacuum created into which the likes of Griffin step.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Teabag</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/23/griffin-claims-he-got-on-well-with-greer/#comment-70863</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Teabag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the chat about David Duke and klan was when they really hit it off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the chat about David Duke and klan was when they really hit it off.</p>
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		<title>By: DHG</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/23/griffin-claims-he-got-on-well-with-greer/#comment-70862</link>
		<dc:creator>DHG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure about that, she just took a more measured tone I suppose but one tha was full of ridicule, as if talking to a mentally ill stoat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure about that, she just took a more measured tone I suppose but one tha was full of ridicule, as if talking to a mentally ill stoat.</p>
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		<title>By: cjcjc</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/23/griffin-claims-he-got-on-well-with-greer/#comment-70858</link>
		<dc:creator>cjcjc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She dealt with him best by being polite.</description>
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		<title>By: DHG</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/23/griffin-claims-he-got-on-well-with-greer/#comment-70850</link>
		<dc:creator>DHG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Delusional, mad nonsense.</description>
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		<title>By: Sian Blake</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/23/griffin-claims-he-got-on-well-with-greer/#comment-74432</link>
		<dc:creator>Sian Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @libcon Griffin claims he got on well with Greer http://bit.ly/3tnslT &gt;&gt; there&#039;s no end to the mans delusions.&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/funktious/status/5092306324&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @libcon Griffin claims he got on well with Greer <a href="http://bit.ly/3tnslT" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/3tnslT</a> &gt;&gt; there&#39;s no end to the mans delusions.</span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/funktious/status/5092306324">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Stewart</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/23/griffin-claims-he-got-on-well-with-greer/#comment-74433</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;#LiberalConspiracy Griffin claims he got on well with Greer http://tinyurl.com/yhwhwc9 - Apparently this letter has been sent to BNP members&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/citizensmitt/status/5092261364&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">#LiberalConspiracy Griffin claims he got on well with Greer <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yhwhwc9" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yhwhwc9</a> &#8211; Apparently this letter has been sent to BNP members</span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/citizensmitt/status/5092261364">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Kev T</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/23/griffin-claims-he-got-on-well-with-greer/#comment-70751</link>
		<dc:creator>Kev T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;[compared to the other parties] the British National Party is really different. With millions of people knowing that in just a couple of killer soundbites&quot;

I&#039;ll say!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;[compared to the other parties] the British National Party is really different. With millions of people knowing that in just a couple of killer soundbites&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll say!</p>
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		<title>By: kel d</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/23/griffin-claims-he-got-on-well-with-greer/#comment-70750</link>
		<dc:creator>kel d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, we could have hardly expected him to say &quot;What Bonnie said about the Ice Age really got me thinking, lads... We should rejig a lot of our policies around... we can drop all this &#039;ethnic British&#039; tosh for a start.&quot;

I find it sad that he thinks that Jack Straw&#039;s face went ashen because comparing what dads did in the war is political debate.

I also noticed that he was trying to listen to &quot;even ethnic minorities&quot; with &quot;consideration&quot; but I wonder if anyone will tell him that the effort to treat the audience members as individual human beings made his face sneer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, we could have hardly expected him to say &#8220;What Bonnie said about the Ice Age really got me thinking, lads&#8230; We should rejig a lot of our policies around&#8230; we can drop all this &#8216;ethnic British&#8217; tosh for a start.&#8221;</p>
<p>I find it sad that he thinks that Jack Straw&#8217;s face went ashen because comparing what dads did in the war is political debate.</p>
<p>I also noticed that he was trying to listen to &#8220;even ethnic minorities&#8221; with &#8220;consideration&#8221; but I wonder if anyone will tell him that the effort to treat the audience members as individual human beings made his face sneer?</p>
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		<title>By: Zarathustra</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/23/griffin-claims-he-got-on-well-with-greer/#comment-70749</link>
		<dc:creator>Zarathustra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They will also have noted very well that Nick Griffin and Bonny Greer clearly got on well&quot;

Why does that leave me thinking of some awkward teenager who&#039;s just made a cack-handed attempt to chat up the most glamorous girl in the classroom, and then walked away bragging to his mates, &quot;Yeah, yeah, she totally fancied me&quot; while ignoring the look of utter disdain on her face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They will also have noted very well that Nick Griffin and Bonny Greer clearly got on well&#8221;</p>
<p>Why does that leave me thinking of some awkward teenager who&#8217;s just made a cack-handed attempt to chat up the most glamorous girl in the classroom, and then walked away bragging to his mates, &#8220;Yeah, yeah, she totally fancied me&#8221; while ignoring the look of utter disdain on her face.</p>
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