BNP issue coded threat to British generals


3:30 pm - October 20th 2009

by Sunny Hundal    


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The BNP has published coded threats to army generals who distanced themselves from the party today.

In an editorial published on the site today, the BNP’s Nick Griffin said today:

Those Tory generals who today attacked the British National Party should remember that at the Nuremburg Trials, the politicians and generals accused of waging illegal aggressive wars were all charged — and hanged — together.

According to the BNP (link to their website), those were the words of Nick Griffin today in response to attempts by Army Generals to distance himself from the racist party.

The editorial added:

This hysterical attack on the BNP is nothing but a dying Tory toady gasp as the ordinary brave and loyal soldiers turn their backs on that party,” Mr Griffin said.

Mr Griffin also dismissed as “sour grapes” complaints about the use of the Spitfire and quotes from Winston Churchill during BNP campaigns.

via Political Scrapbook

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I thought the BNP were meant to be playing it carefully, this is childish, very dangerous, and should be added to the list of your questions Sunny, namely in the reworded form of 21) Are you an idiot Griffin?

Nutcases – and so desperate I bet they’ll soon withdraw or change the wording of that editorial.

The Nuremburg reference is just mind-boggling.

There’s so much perverted logic I can’t really get my head around it…

@Sunny;

Well they reworded the Hain/bank robber libel pretty sharpish, as I said on PP, they’re unable to do secrecy any more, so maybe they’re just saying fuck it, lets be the old, nazi BNP again, we’re selling out etc etc

‘Those Tory generals who today attacked the British National Party should remember that at the Nuremburg Trials, the politicians and generals accused of waging illegal aggressive wars were all charged — and hanged — together.’

Don’t the BNP think those were show trials of innocent Germans perpetrated by Jews, Commies and homosexuals?

coded?

Perhaps it is a Nuremberg revenge fantasy though.

Ok, so this is clearly bizarre timing, coming just before their grand appearance on QT…

if (if?!) this comes up, which response will Griffin choose –

a) desperately bluster that it doesn’t actually mean..what it obviously means, thus making himself look stupid?

b) Blame it on his subordinates being a bunch of mindless thugs. Which makes his party look stupid?

c) Declare the international Jewish conspiracy hired islamist lesbian hackers to deface the BNP website. Using computer equipment sold to them by Nigerian single parents and their feckless, asylum-seeking Afghani partners?

Anyone?

It will come up alright.

I think he will defend his comments, quoting liberal lawyers and perhaps Sir Ming Campbell, on the topic of Iraq and go for an anti-Blair applause line on that;

then claim he has been misquoted and that he has never said it in the next breath.

If that’s coded I would like to see blatant.

But it does highlight a point many sensible people have been making. Let the Griffins have their platform, get them out of their comfort zone by asking them about stuff they’re not used to dealing with (like political generals) and watch them flounder.

Generals are one of the few remaining parts of the establishment that public have anything approaching confidence in. Griffin saying they should be hanged just shows what an objectionable idiot he is. No need to no-platform idiots.

BNP issue coded threat to British generals.

I’m sure they are terrified…

Unfortunately “hang the army” Griffin has realised this wasn’t quite as clever as he thought, and would quite like to close it down before thursday

And, lo, it turns out he was joking …. “black humour” he tells Nick Robinson
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/2009/10/bnps_hang_gener.html

right.

New competition ….How much of the rest of the BNP platform is just a bit of a lark and a wind-up after all?

12. Harry Wiliams

The comments above are the signs of a desperate bunch of losers. No doubt most of them live far away in their commuter belt countryside homes. I suggest they sell up and live in one of the inner boroughs of London where as one Nigerian medical orderly recently told me that when he gets home he never goes out at night as it is too dangerous. Recent events have given the BNP publicity that they could only dream about – publicity estimated at £2 million. Comments in the press, radio and TV have given the only party that can save this country exposure to our website which gets more hits than all the other parties put together which reflects in the fact that the BNP are signing up between four and five hundred members a month. We are obviously doing something wrong because with the state of this country with mass immigration, knife and gun crime, corruption rife in government plus a £175 billion deficit we should be signing up one to two thousand a month. Perhaps some of contributors could give us some welcome guidance – that is if you have the balls to include this post.

“I suggest they sell up and live in one of the inner boroughs of London”

I do. I don’t vote BNP.

‘I suggest they sell up and live in one of the inner boroughs of London where as one Nigerian medical orderly recently told me that when he gets home he never goes out at night as it is too dangerous’

I’m sure he’d feel safer at night if there weren’t so many racist thugs out there.

Dear Mr. Williams,

I couldn’t afford to live in that over-priced, over-crowded mess that is London, sorry.

and as for

“commuter belt countryside homes” – hah!

try a 2-bedroom flat in a town in Fife.

Scotland doesn’t vote for you and your chums, Mr. Williams, in case you hadn’t noticed – you only managed 2.5% of the vote in the Euro elections up here, and what was it last time round for the Scottish parliament? 1.2%!

And don’t think local elections here give you any comfort either – 2.3%

Some of us don’t buy into your ignorant racist bile, Mr. Williams.

Far be it for me to defend the BNP, but they have a point.

Senior top brass in the military have been playing politics for some time. Mike Jackson might as well have been wearing a giant fucking blue rosette on top of his red berry. And as for that other upper class twat he has let the cat out of the bag my joining the tories in the Lords.

The last few years have once again destroyed another great British myth; namely that the armed forces are non political BULLSHIT! They are stacked from the top with Tory yahoos, and as long as we have a Tory govt then there is no problem. It is only when those nasty bolshies are in that the whole non political clap trap fades to dust.

Oh, and did you see Nick (I want to have Cameron’s children) Robinson getting all righteous on the BBC? He is another example of the so called non political BBC, which in fact is stacked with brown nose tories.

17. Andrew Albury

Wow Sally!

Will you take an enema before you go to bed or do you want to hold your nonsensical bile for another rant at ooh say John Humphrys on Today failing to prevent an Opposition spokesman speaking and thus showing himself up as a closet Tory!

Pathetic!

The Nuremburg reference is just mind-boggling.

There’s so much perverted logic I can’t really get my head around it…

I think that this is interesting. Is there not a case for Blair and the others who went to war against Iraq and Afghanistan to face a War Crimes trial? Of course they will not but that is not the question. If there is a case against the politicians is there a case against the Generals too? These are serious questions but it is only now in a BNP row that they have hit the front pages. I doubt that they will be seriously considered as they will get lost in the usual hysterical reporting and partisanship that all things BNP seem inevitably to descend into.

As to use of Spitfires etc. these are part of a common cultural heritage that anyone can refer to. I don’t interpret them in the same way as the BNP do but I wouldn’t say they don’t have the right to represent them as they choose. Some of the ways our establishment use such images rankles with me too. All cutural areas can be contested. That’s nothing new.

These comments have outraged the liberal left that oppose the BNP, and rightly so. But I imagine they would go down quite differently in the abandoned working class areas that the BNP are aggresively trying to build a presence in. I have done a lot of campaigning work in towns such as Dewsbury, and I can imagine that the idea of Blair and the generals being strung up for war crimes would go down quite well, amongst both the white and Asian communities.

The left shouldn’t rally around corrupt Tory generals and Labour politicians with blood on their hands just to try and counter the BNP. I’m not saying we blindly follow them, in fact quite the opposite – we must stand our ground and not let them claim the mantle of being a voice of opposition against the war.

“The left shouldn’t rally around corrupt Tory generals and Labour politicians with blood on their hands just to try and counter the BNP. I’m not saying we blindly follow them, in fact quite the opposite – we must stand our ground and not let them claim the mantle of being a voice of opposition against the war.”

So true it has to be said again.

I have no time for the BNP, but the left should not fall for a classic Tory trick here. The army is is full of tory toadies who have been attacking the govt for their own political reasons. This is a spat between tory generals and the BNP. They are as bad as each other.

This was stage-managed by Tory Central Office. Dannatt was appointed a Tory adviser just six weeks after leaving his old job. The group ‘Nothing British about the BNP’ is a Tory front group. Dannatt clearly has political ambitions and has been playing politics for some time now.

25

Yup dead right. And anything that has Jackson and Dannatt involved in it smells of tory shit. And the fact that loyal Nick Robinson was doing his usual tory spin on the BBC shows that this was nothing more than a tory stunt.


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