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		<title>By: Blondieblu2</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-161564</link>
		<dc:creator>Blondieblu2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 06:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/aEtBi5 came across this on internet number 1 is not that surprising really&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content"><a href="http://bit.ly/aEtBi5" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/aEtBi5</a> came across this on internet number 1 is not that surprising really</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Lydia Weber</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-86967</link>
		<dc:creator>Lydia Weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Liberal Conspiracy » Top 10 Tory &#039;out of touch&#039; gaffes http://tinyurl.com/yhou5kr&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Liberal Conspiracy » Top 10 Tory &#39;out of touch&#39; gaffes <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yhou5kr" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yhou5kr</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: RupertRead</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-86968</link>
		<dc:creator>RupertRead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;NIce, educative piece on Liberal Conspiracy » Top 10 Tory ‘out of touch’ gaffes: http://bit.ly/2OeueL&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">NIce, educative piece on Liberal Conspiracy » Top 10 Tory ‘out of touch’ gaffes: <a href="http://bit.ly/2OeueL" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/2OeueL</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Liberal Conspiracy &#187; Top 10 ways Cameron has made an arse of himself</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-70263</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberal Conspiracy &#187; Top 10 ways Cameron has made an arse of himself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] himself by Paul Cotterill &#160; &#160;  October 21, 2009 at 8:30 am Following my recently popular Top 10 Tory &#8216;out of touch&#8217; gaffes, I thought I would follow it up with a focus on the golden boy David [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] himself by Paul Cotterill &nbsp; &nbsp;  October 21, 2009 at 8:30 am Following my recently popular Top 10 Tory &#8216;out of touch&#8217; gaffes, I thought I would follow it up with a focus on the golden boy David [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RupertRead</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-75556</link>
		<dc:creator>RupertRead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;NIce, educative piece on Liberal Conspiracy » Top 10 Tory ‘out of touch’ gaffes: http://bit.ly/2OeueL&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/rupertread/status/5039380340&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">NIce, educative piece on Liberal Conspiracy » Top 10 Tory ‘out of touch’ gaffes: <a href="http://bit.ly/2OeueL" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/2OeueL</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/rupertread/status/5039380340">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: The Bickerstaffe Record &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cameron top 10 &#8216;total arse&#8217; episodes</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-70245</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bickerstaffe Record &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cameron top 10 &#8216;total arse&#8217; episodes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] see amateur blogger Iain Dale has followed Liberal Conspiracy’s ‘top 10’ lead (i. e. mine) with a Gordon Brown-based [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] see amateur blogger Iain Dale has followed Liberal Conspiracy’s ‘top 10’ lead (i. e. mine) with a Gordon Brown-based [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cleo Peacock</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-75557</link>
		<dc:creator>Cleo Peacock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;The only socially acceptable form of &#039;bashing&#039;? Tory Bashing http://bit.ly/CImon&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/cleopeacock/status/4974826855&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">The only socially acceptable form of &#39;bashing&#39;? Tory Bashing <a href="http://bit.ly/CImon" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/CImon</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/cleopeacock/status/4974826855">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Cleo Peacock</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-76237</link>
		<dc:creator>Cleo Peacock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;The only socially acceptable form of &#039;bashing&#039;? Tory Bashing http://bit.ly/CImon&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/cleopeacock/status/4974826855&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">The only socially acceptable form of &#39;bashing&#39;? Tory Bashing <a href="http://bit.ly/CImon" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/CImon</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/cleopeacock/status/4974826855">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-69364</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never mind Polly Toynbee, I&#039;m trying ever so hard to resist a powerful urge to propose a collaborative effort to rate each MP on four independent scales in the run-up to the election next year:

(1) avarice - as in expenses claims
(2) ignorance - as in the familiar adage: Ignorance is Strength
(3) stupidity - as in claims that the international recession is all down to GB
(4) tribalism - as with never deviates from the party line

Remember this? &quot;Public funds totalling £500 million a year are being spent on an army of at least 29,000 professional politicians in the UK, according to new figures.&quot;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/feedarticle/8605308

Compare that with the British electorate of more than 44 million.

A salutary insight: I - or you - would become comfortably affluent if every adult in Britain were to agree to pay me - or you - just one penny each year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind Polly Toynbee, I&#8217;m trying ever so hard to resist a powerful urge to propose a collaborative effort to rate each MP on four independent scales in the run-up to the election next year:</p>
<p>(1) avarice &#8211; as in expenses claims<br />
(2) ignorance &#8211; as in the familiar adage: Ignorance is Strength<br />
(3) stupidity &#8211; as in claims that the international recession is all down to GB<br />
(4) tribalism &#8211; as with never deviates from the party line</p>
<p>Remember this? &#8220;Public funds totalling £500 million a year are being spent on an army of at least 29,000 professional politicians in the UK, according to new figures.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/feedarticle/8605308" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/feedarticle/8605308</a></p>
<p>Compare that with the British electorate of more than 44 million.</p>
<p>A salutary insight: I &#8211; or you &#8211; would become comfortably affluent if every adult in Britain were to agree to pay me &#8211; or you &#8211; just one penny each year.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Eugenides</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-69356</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Eugenides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 02:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I now have an uncontrollable desire to compile a list of the 200 most stupid things Polly Toynbee has ever said. 

Damn you, Liberal Conspiracy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I now have an uncontrollable desire to compile a list of the 200 most stupid things Polly Toynbee has ever said. </p>
<p>Damn you, Liberal Conspiracy!</p>
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		<title>By: The Grim Reaper</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-69354</link>
		<dc:creator>The Grim Reaper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If that&#039;s the best you can do, I think the ultimate list compiling blogger out there, Iain Dale, can sleep easy tonight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that&#8217;s the best you can do, I think the ultimate list compiling blogger out there, Iain Dale, can sleep easy tonight.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Cotterill</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-75558</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Cotterill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;My Top 10 Tory out of touch gaffes STILL main post at @libcon. Even Louise Bagshawe replied (well she did come in at No1)http://bit.ly/ICcow&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/bickerrecord/status/4900189407&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">My Top 10 Tory out of touch gaffes STILL main post at @libcon. Even Louise Bagshawe replied (well she did come in at No1)<a href="http://bit.ly/ICcow" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/ICcow</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/bickerrecord/status/4900189407">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Sy</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-69338</link>
		<dc:creator>Sy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;yet remarkably 30 Republicans voted against it (on Daily Show).&lt;/i&gt;

Including John McCain. It&#039;s a diabolical intrusion by the socialist government into the freedom of companies to employ rapists and then sack the victims if they complain. &lt;a href=&quot;http://obamaisliterallyhitler.tumblr.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Yet more proof...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>yet remarkably 30 Republicans voted against it (on Daily Show).</i></p>
<p>Including John McCain. It&#8217;s a diabolical intrusion by the socialist government into the freedom of companies to employ rapists and then sack the victims if they complain. <a href="http://obamaisliterallyhitler.tumblr.com/" rel="nofollow">Yet more proof&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dick the Prick</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-69330</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick the Prick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a case of life imitating stuff never even contemplated the Yanks have just passed a bill in the senate stating that employment contracts can&#039;t be written to include a no sue if raped clause; yet remarkably 30 Republicans voted against it (on Daily Show). Surely rape is rape and whilst every case is different it&#039;s still fucking rape. The worlds gonna mad (unless there were attachments to the bill that would take a bit of reading which I can&#039;t be bothered doing - but still, on the face of it - that&#039;s out of the stadium wrong).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a case of life imitating stuff never even contemplated the Yanks have just passed a bill in the senate stating that employment contracts can&#8217;t be written to include a no sue if raped clause; yet remarkably 30 Republicans voted against it (on Daily Show). Surely rape is rape and whilst every case is different it&#8217;s still fucking rape. The worlds gonna mad (unless there were attachments to the bill that would take a bit of reading which I can&#8217;t be bothered doing &#8211; but still, on the face of it &#8211; that&#8217;s out of the stadium wrong).</p>
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		<title>By: Louise Bagshawe</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-69328</link>
		<dc:creator>Louise Bagshawe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er...local schools is not code for anything other than local schools; that our family lives in the consituency, and it&#039;s our home. The school is private. Their father and I liked it, end of story!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er&#8230;local schools is not code for anything other than local schools; that our family lives in the consituency, and it&#8217;s our home. The school is private. Their father and I liked it, end of story!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-69324</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well worth reading this news story:

&quot;What the court did not hear was that &#039;Major&#039; Colclough - who in fact has earned six figure salaries in finance in the City of London - is a serial fantasist who once briefly obtained a job at a university in Prague by claiming to be a professor and friend of Stephen Hawking.&quot; 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1219741/Victim-lying-Major-TA-girl-fell-serial-fantasist-said-hed-Army-medic-fighter-pilot-psychiatrist.html#ixzz0U29t5TNE

As well as this report about the Savings and Loan Association crisis in America during the 1980s and 1990s and then asking why no lessons were drawn:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well worth reading this news story:</p>
<p>&#8220;What the court did not hear was that &#8216;Major&#8217; Colclough &#8211; who in fact has earned six figure salaries in finance in the City of London &#8211; is a serial fantasist who once briefly obtained a job at a university in Prague by claiming to be a professor and friend of Stephen Hawking.&#8221; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1219741/Victim-lying-Major-TA-girl-fell-serial-fantasist-said-hed-Army-medic-fighter-pilot-psychiatrist.html#ixzz0U29t5TNE" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1219741/Victim-lying-Major-TA-girl-fell-serial-fantasist-said-hed-Army-medic-fighter-pilot-psychiatrist.html#ixzz0U29t5TNE</a></p>
<p>As well as this report about the Savings and Loan Association crisis in America during the 1980s and 1990s and then asking why no lessons were drawn:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-69323</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#28: &quot;Yes, Sir Fred is really suffering for his business failings&quot;

Quite - but then a damn fool government minister reportedly approved his pension arrangements with the then nationalised RBS before Sir Fred retired.

&quot;the aftermath of Thatch’s attack on the coal industry in mind when he made this comment?&quot;

Thatcher didn&#039;t attack the coal industry.

The Yorkshire NUM launched upon a stupidly suicidal strike for a year without calling a strike ballot in the region when such massive coal stocks had been pilling up at power stations and pit heads that there was difficulty in finding where to put it all - in fact.

Another embarrassing fact is that both the Thatcher and Major governments poured billions of taxpayers&#039; money into propping up the coal board before and after the year long strike 1984/5.

Yet another is that both the Labour opposition in Parliament and other trade unions backed off supporting the NUM.

Yet another is that the world oil price - which determined how much the electricity generators paid for coal since they weren&#039;t permitted to import any - almost halved between 1985 and 1986.

For curious reasons, those who complain about Thatcher attacking the coal industry never mention what was happening to world oil prices. It is not self-evident why taxpayers should have gone on spending even more billions propping up the coal board when there were many other budget lines on which the money could have been productively spent - such as schools, hospitals and upgrading the railways.

In the run up to the 1992 election, Kinnock correctly made the point that for all the Conservative&#039;s rhetoric about cutting taxes, tax revenues as a percentage of Britain&#039;s GDP were about the same as when Thatcher took office in May 1979.

Major&#039;s government privatised the nationalised coal industry, not Thatcher.

Btw I didn&#039;t vote at the last election and the last time I was a member of any political party was in 1976 - the year the Labour government at the time had to borrow from the IMF to bail out the Pound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#28: &#8220;Yes, Sir Fred is really suffering for his business failings&#8221;</p>
<p>Quite &#8211; but then a damn fool government minister reportedly approved his pension arrangements with the then nationalised RBS before Sir Fred retired.</p>
<p>&#8220;the aftermath of Thatch’s attack on the coal industry in mind when he made this comment?&#8221;</p>
<p>Thatcher didn&#8217;t attack the coal industry.</p>
<p>The Yorkshire NUM launched upon a stupidly suicidal strike for a year without calling a strike ballot in the region when such massive coal stocks had been pilling up at power stations and pit heads that there was difficulty in finding where to put it all &#8211; in fact.</p>
<p>Another embarrassing fact is that both the Thatcher and Major governments poured billions of taxpayers&#8217; money into propping up the coal board before and after the year long strike 1984/5.</p>
<p>Yet another is that both the Labour opposition in Parliament and other trade unions backed off supporting the NUM.</p>
<p>Yet another is that the world oil price &#8211; which determined how much the electricity generators paid for coal since they weren&#8217;t permitted to import any &#8211; almost halved between 1985 and 1986.</p>
<p>For curious reasons, those who complain about Thatcher attacking the coal industry never mention what was happening to world oil prices. It is not self-evident why taxpayers should have gone on spending even more billions propping up the coal board when there were many other budget lines on which the money could have been productively spent &#8211; such as schools, hospitals and upgrading the railways.</p>
<p>In the run up to the 1992 election, Kinnock correctly made the point that for all the Conservative&#8217;s rhetoric about cutting taxes, tax revenues as a percentage of Britain&#8217;s GDP were about the same as when Thatcher took office in May 1979.</p>
<p>Major&#8217;s government privatised the nationalised coal industry, not Thatcher.</p>
<p>Btw I didn&#8217;t vote at the last election and the last time I was a member of any political party was in 1976 &#8211; the year the Labour government at the time had to borrow from the IMF to bail out the Pound.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie de Ramper</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-69307</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronnie de Ramper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Louise Bagshawe? I strongly recommend checking out her books 

http://bit.ly/1yBlB5

Read through a few chapters, and see how an Oxford degree in Anglo-Saxon &amp; Norse turns you into a &quot;best-selling&quot; author of two million books, while preparing you for a role in your national legislature.

Gasp at how every woman realises her ambition: an impossibly pert bum; marriage to a billionaire; excitement; travel; and the occasional fling

Be awestruck how a Tory Government will make this possible. You too can claw your way from boredom and poverty to a life of unimaginable wealth and luxury by making best use of your &#039;assets&#039;.

Sprawl with Louise Bagshawe through endless pages of emetic neo-Mills &amp; Boon

Despair that, under a Tory Government, her books could find their way onto TV and into the national curriculum.

Shudder at what some people will do to get rich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Louise Bagshawe? I strongly recommend checking out her books </p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/1yBlB5" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/1yBlB5</a></p>
<p>Read through a few chapters, and see how an Oxford degree in Anglo-Saxon &amp; Norse turns you into a &#8220;best-selling&#8221; author of two million books, while preparing you for a role in your national legislature.</p>
<p>Gasp at how every woman realises her ambition: an impossibly pert bum; marriage to a billionaire; excitement; travel; and the occasional fling</p>
<p>Be awestruck how a Tory Government will make this possible. You too can claw your way from boredom and poverty to a life of unimaginable wealth and luxury by making best use of your &#8216;assets&#8217;.</p>
<p>Sprawl with Louise Bagshawe through endless pages of emetic neo-Mills &amp; Boon</p>
<p>Despair that, under a Tory Government, her books could find their way onto TV and into the national curriculum.</p>
<p>Shudder at what some people will do to get rich</p>
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		<title>By: Tim J</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-69306</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>28 - Fred Goodwin might not have been punished, but that&#039;s not what Osborne was talking about.  He was saying that failing businesses will inevitably be punished by the market.  How&#039;s RBS&#039;s share price looking at the moment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>28 &#8211; Fred Goodwin might not have been punished, but that&#8217;s not what Osborne was talking about.  He was saying that failing businesses will inevitably be punished by the market.  How&#8217;s RBS&#8217;s share price looking at the moment?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Cotterill</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-76745</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Cotterill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;My Top 10 Tory out of touch gaffes STILL main post at @libcon. Even Louise Bagshawe replied (well she did come in at No1)http://bit.ly/ICcow&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/bickerrecord/status/4900189407&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">My Top 10 Tory out of touch gaffes STILL main post at @libcon. Even Louise Bagshawe replied (well she did come in at No1)<a href="http://bit.ly/ICcow" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/ICcow</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/bickerrecord/status/4900189407">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: the a&#38;e charge nurse</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-69305</link>
		<dc:creator>the a&#38;e charge nurse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[27] &#039;Osborne was correct about saying that capitalist markets to function efficiently must punish business failure&#039;

Yes, Sir Fred is really suffering for his business failings
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23571948-bankers-should-repay-bonuses.do

Or did baby-face have the aftermath of Thatch&#039;s attack on the coal industry in mind when he made this comment?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2405885.stm 
http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/sr219/simons.htm

Pouring himself a nice whisky in his posh Eaton Square flat, eh - I&#039;m sure McGregor must have felt very pleased with himself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[27] &#8216;Osborne was correct about saying that capitalist markets to function efficiently must punish business failure&#8217;</p>
<p>Yes, Sir Fred is really suffering for his business failings<br />
<a href="http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23571948-bankers-should-repay-bonuses.do" rel="nofollow">http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23571948-bankers-should-repay-bonuses.do</a></p>
<p>Or did baby-face have the aftermath of Thatch&#8217;s attack on the coal industry in mind when he made this comment?<br />
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2405885.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2405885.stm</a><br />
<a href="http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/sr219/simons.htm" rel="nofollow">http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/sr219/simons.htm</a></p>
<p>Pouring himself a nice whisky in his posh Eaton Square flat, eh &#8211; I&#8217;m sure McGregor must have felt very pleased with himself?</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Hall</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-75559</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @StopTheRight: Top 10 Tory ‘out of touch’ gaffes http://alturl.com/czoj #toryfail&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/ultra_fox/status/4890793719&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @StopTheRight: Top 10 Tory ‘out of touch’ gaffes <a href="http://alturl.com/czoj" rel="nofollow">http://alturl.com/czoj</a> #toryfail</span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/ultra_fox/status/4890793719">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-69299</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#21: &quot;One can imagine such utterances easily dripping from Osborne’s baby face while comfortably ensconced in a members only gentleman’s club, but its the kind of brutal comment that would have any self respecting political spin-meister spluttering into his frothy cappucino?&quot;

Osborne was correct about saying that capitalist markets to function efficiently must punish business failure in order to reallocate resources to other uses which will perform better at producing those things buyers want to purchase.

Two comments are appropriate. Economists have long recognised that markets can send incorrect signals about the true social costs of business activites - hence a daunting literature about the causes - and remedies for - market failure. We got as far as this analysis 50 years ago:

Francis Bator: The Anatomy of Market Failure (QJE 1958) - large PDF file
http://instruct1.cit.cornell.edu/courses/econ335/out/bator_qje.pdf

Since then, other potential causes of market failure have been recognised, notably network externalities (the value of a telephone handset with its network to me depends on how many others have handsets with access to the same network) and information asymmetries (if buyers and sellers lack access to the same information about the product they wish to trade it is unlikely that purchasing decisions and prices will be efficient). The latter applies, among other cases, to healthcare markets but another factor also applies - the prospect of daunting costs should a serious medical problem develop for an individual without insurance cover.

What Osborne somehow failed to notice was that traders and dealers working for many leading financial institutions were contracting transactions which were bankrupting their employers on a colossal scale, thereby jeopardising the entire global financial system with awful prospects for all the major market economies and raising the high likelihood of a global depression on the scale of that in the 1930s.

This behaviour by employees in financial institutions wasn&#039;t regular, sustainable behaviour so questions naturally arise as to why the management of afficted financial institutions allowed it to happen and what can be done to prevent the like of it happening again.

Sadly, the necessary actions of governments in bailing out failing financial institutions are only too likely to promote repeat occurences because the management and traders of financial institutions will be encouraged to maintain a belief that while gains from dealing decisions can be privatised, large losses are socialised to prevent systemic market failures. But those aren&#039;t and cannot be continuing operating rules for capitalist markets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#21: &#8220;One can imagine such utterances easily dripping from Osborne’s baby face while comfortably ensconced in a members only gentleman’s club, but its the kind of brutal comment that would have any self respecting political spin-meister spluttering into his frothy cappucino?&#8221;</p>
<p>Osborne was correct about saying that capitalist markets to function efficiently must punish business failure in order to reallocate resources to other uses which will perform better at producing those things buyers want to purchase.</p>
<p>Two comments are appropriate. Economists have long recognised that markets can send incorrect signals about the true social costs of business activites &#8211; hence a daunting literature about the causes &#8211; and remedies for &#8211; market failure. We got as far as this analysis 50 years ago:</p>
<p>Francis Bator: The Anatomy of Market Failure (QJE 1958) &#8211; large PDF file<br />
<a href="http://instruct1.cit.cornell.edu/courses/econ335/out/bator_qje.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://instruct1.cit.cornell.edu/courses/econ335/out/bator_qje.pdf</a></p>
<p>Since then, other potential causes of market failure have been recognised, notably network externalities (the value of a telephone handset with its network to me depends on how many others have handsets with access to the same network) and information asymmetries (if buyers and sellers lack access to the same information about the product they wish to trade it is unlikely that purchasing decisions and prices will be efficient). The latter applies, among other cases, to healthcare markets but another factor also applies &#8211; the prospect of daunting costs should a serious medical problem develop for an individual without insurance cover.</p>
<p>What Osborne somehow failed to notice was that traders and dealers working for many leading financial institutions were contracting transactions which were bankrupting their employers on a colossal scale, thereby jeopardising the entire global financial system with awful prospects for all the major market economies and raising the high likelihood of a global depression on the scale of that in the 1930s.</p>
<p>This behaviour by employees in financial institutions wasn&#8217;t regular, sustainable behaviour so questions naturally arise as to why the management of afficted financial institutions allowed it to happen and what can be done to prevent the like of it happening again.</p>
<p>Sadly, the necessary actions of governments in bailing out failing financial institutions are only too likely to promote repeat occurences because the management and traders of financial institutions will be encouraged to maintain a belief that while gains from dealing decisions can be privatised, large losses are socialised to prevent systemic market failures. But those aren&#8217;t and cannot be continuing operating rules for capitalist markets.</p>
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		<title>By: StopTheRight</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-75560</link>
		<dc:creator>StopTheRight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Top 10 Tory ‘out of touch’ gaffes    http://alturl.com/czoj   #p2&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/stoptheright/status/4890224416&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Top 10 Tory ‘out of touch’ gaffes    <a href="http://alturl.com/czoj" rel="nofollow">http://alturl.com/czoj</a>   #p2</span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/stoptheright/status/4890224416">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/10/15/top-10-tory-out-of-touch-gaffes/#comment-69295</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soho Politco @20

Oh, hadn&#039;t seen that.  Great.   Take it all back from @16 and @25.  Bagshawe goes straight back in at no. 2 (yeah, ok, behidnd Redwood) as sales have surged on the basis of her newly released back catologue.  Is it in digital?</description>
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<p>Oh, hadn&#8217;t seen that.  Great.   Take it all back from @16 and @25.  Bagshawe goes straight back in at no. 2 (yeah, ok, behidnd Redwood) as sales have surged on the basis of her newly released back catologue.  Is it in digital?</p>
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