Backlash to Royal Mail legal threats
Surreptitiously, and with a “not for publication” notice, the Royal Mail last week succeeded in shutting down a swathe of important community online tools
They range from helping you to find jobs like Job Centre Pro Plus to increasing democracy and political awareness like theStraightChoice with threats of legal action.
There are several posts already popping up from those directly affected, those indirectly affected, and from those supporting the idea of open source and free for not-for-profit use of the postcode “database”.
The question has to be asked, how much longer can the Royal Mail retain “ownership” over postcode information when that very information is, collectively, in the public domain?
Another site affected was PlanningAlerts.com.
They sent an email to supporters yesterday stating:
We are left with the choice of paying the Royal Mail up to £4,000 a year for access to the postcode database and either running a much less accurate and useful service or shutting PlanningAlerts down altogether. If are concerned about this, please consider doing the following:
– Write to your MP –
Tom Watson MP has tabled an Early Day Motion in Parliament calling on the Royal Mail to allow non-profit organisations to use the postcode database for free. Please write to your MP asking them to sign this Early Day Motion (number EDM 2000) and protest at the actions of The Royal Mail.
You can write to your MP here: marples.writetothem.com
They have also set up a petition which has already been signed by nearly 1,200 people.
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Isn’t this data already in the Public domain? The planned strike in my opinion will kill Royal Mail, they are committing Industrial Suicide.
It’s in the public domain in the sense that the Times is in the public domain: you can view it fairly easily, but Murdoch will kick your arse in the courts if you photocopy it and try and flog copies outside WH Smiths.
All data controlled by the state and state-owned organisations *should*, by law, be 100% publicly available and redistributable without any fee, with the sole exceptions applying in cases of national security and individual privacy.
But at the moment it isn’t, and in the absence of a law to that effect it’s hard to blame the managers of Royal Mail from defending a major revenue stream (their duty, by law, is to do everything they legally can to benefit Royal Mail, not the wider public good).
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On the other hand, as with any absurd law, if we can undermine and destroy it through civil disobedience then this would be a Good Thing. So rather than simpering about non-profits, let’s set up a WikiPostcodes hosted in the Seychelles so that *anyone* can access the data our taxes pay for…
(yes, this would hasten the demise of the Royal Mail. FEATURE NOT BUG)
Ummm…. can’t we just build another, open-source, database simply by everyone sending in their own address and postcode and those of any they know (with the explicit instruction not to look them up on Royal Mail).
After all, I know what my postcode is and there’s nothing to stop me telling anyone who asks. That data is not copyright, it can’t be.
It would work the same was the Open Source maps do – the OS map is copyright, but there’s nothing to stop you drawing your own with your knowledge of the road layout.
The planned strike in my opinion will kill Royal Mail, they are committing Industrial Suicide.
And Lloyd’s get another 5Bn quid?
There is an attempt to crowd source postcode data at http://www.freethepostcode.org/.
However, there are over 17 million postcodes – and new ones are added regularly.
Commercial GPS devices can only get accuracy to ~10 metres – I suspect the Royal Mail has greater accuracy.
You also need to sanity check all the data coming in – as well as convince homes, businesses, schools etc. to take part.
It’s a noble effort, but much easier to get the government to open the data.
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@Terence
That’s interesting, but why does it need to be GPS-led?
Surely the fact that “1-17 Cucumber Avenue, Trumpton has the postcode X34 ABC” isn’t copyright. Is it??
GPS makes it easy to do useful things. It allows you to accurately plot something on a map, calculate the distance between points, etc.
Because, ultimately, “1-17 Cucumber Avenue, Trumpton” needs to be mapped to something. By itself it’s almost as meaningless as X34 ABC.
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