Oh dear.

Hand these boys over to sadistic gay pedos.

Film the encounter, complete with sound-track.

Show the film in all schools.

Ought to work!

Many of the strikes were demarcation strikes between various unions trying to obtain dominance over each other. One of the reasons why the chemical industry had relatively few strikes was that it required a much more highly skilled workforce , a mistake could lead to a fire and/or an explosion.

From the time of the agricultural and industrial revolutions , new technologies have replaced the need for much unskilled and semi-skilled labour which the left have failed to realise. It would be interesting to know which members of the left have been accurate in assessing the advances in technology and rise in new industrial ised countries and the impact on patterns of employment in this country. Did any of the left warn about the threat of Japan to the UK’s shipbuilding and car production industries in he 60s? If they failed in this, then they should stop talking about Thatcher and start developing the technology which will employ the working class in well paid and secure jobs in high value manufacturing.

I have heard it said that a certain kind of dignity, and dare I say happiness, can be found amongst some of the poorest communities on the planet (rural Africa, India, etc).
It may just be bullshit, of course – perhaps child tortures are common to all societies?

But if we look at risk factors (perm any combination from social isolation, dreadful housing, drug/alcohol problems, violent partner, history of crime, etc) then we are talking about a very sizable cohort of families, especially in places like Edlington – that’s one of the main problems in my opinion.

If we lower the risk threshold what would we do with all of the kids forcibly removed from abusive parents?
On the other hand the evidence for the state acting as pseudo-parents hardly inspires confidence.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/04/time_to_bring_back_childrens_h.html

Excellent take down my good man.

Yes, because at that time any man who was physically capable of working could earn a decent living at an honest job, so people didn’t live on benefits or commit crimes. And what’s changed since then? Have we all somehow become genetically deformed, or are we still reeling from Thatcher’s assault on working-class life, faithfully followed by her henchmen ever since 1990?

Instead of attacking immigrants, homosexuals and whatever, why not put the blame where it belongs? Because you’re too fucking scared of confronting the fact that your right-wing libertarianism fails. On every measure Thatcherism has failed.

Manufacturing and mining replaced by a “service economy” of people selling each other fucking tat- no longer.
Encouragement of city banker scum- “encourage the risk takers”, “celebrate high salaries”- what the fuck became of that then?
Right to buy- which Tories wanked over endlessly- now means people can’t get a council house or afford a property of their own.

Every one of your showpiece policies has fucked up.

The problem with the 70s was that the system rested on state bureaucracy rather than workers’ control. But now, that the government has been forced to nationalise industries, why not manage them properly so we don’t blunder into the same trap? Brown, turncoat Tory that he is, is just making the world safe for his pals rather than benefiting the working class. But I say that one-term Cameron, if he has any sense, won’t want to become Prime Minister because it will finally become undeniable that the system he supports doesn’t fucking work, and he and his heroine will see it dismantled.

Not really, Laban, it’s called having spent too much time reading your blog:

“I thought that the Taleban were as good a government as Afghanistan could reasonably expect, modern Puritans…. Sure, their views on women and homosexuals wouldn’t go down well in Islington, but by their lights they were a pretty good bunch.”

Your views on law & order go some distance beyond simple hanging ‘n’ flogging.

Interesting though – most social conservatives pine for the 1950s, but you long for the middle ages.

It seems that little can be done to prevent the next tragedy until it is either too late (as Matt Munro implies -18) or the child suffers the same fate as Baby P.

The kind of deprivation typified in places like Edlington is all too common I’m afraid – certainly there are some parts of London I would not feel safe in at 2 o’clock in the morning, hell even Tesco won’t go there.
http://www.davidlammy.co.uk/da/94233

#26 “Socialism…not the vaguely left-liberal, pale, social constructivist, Freudian, Guardianista, middle-class imitation…but the genuine “buck stops here”, “go on then Mr Brain-Drain merchant banker..shut the door behind you” social equality type…worth a try…no?”

Absolutely. Clem for PM !

The trouble is that the Welfare State was designed for Attlee’s people, 1947 Brits. I don’t think he, Ernie Bevin or even Nye Bevan would be terribly chuffed at how it’s turned out.

Of course not, not everyone faced with similar circumstances will react in the same way. But what you can safely say is that certain circumstances increase the probability of certain outcomes.

We will have fewer & fewer unskilled job vacancies in the decades to come, so we’d better prepare for it now.

Besides, I have no objection to the principle of a welfare state & am not even an especially radical opponent of the way it exists, because the sort of “reforms” suggested by Purnell etc (which I am against) would harm too many people.

But to simply be glib about unfit parents knocking out babies left, right & centre isn’t going to help anyone.

I propose that the parents of all those deemed to be at risk should have to submit them for medical observation on a regular basis, so that the likes of Baby P’s “guardians” would no longer be able to inflict injuries on their wards & go unnoticed. There are too many horror stories of people intimidating social workers who visit them, so it should be at a neutral venue. Also, advice & any practical help could be provided.

But have you never asked yourself what the fuck some people are doing having them in the first place? We pay their benefits, & we all have a fairly obvious interest in preventing child abuse, so it is doubly our business.

#… inherited low intelligence will inevitably take its toll on those who are born with it.#

Those fuckin’ useless Epsilons…should be stacking shelves and collecting shopping trolleys like God intended….bloody welfare state.