>It just seems funny to me that the right are all for zealous law enforcement except when it’s laws that affect them.

I agree with this. Hitchens, Littlejohn etc. are unbelievably hyocritical and seem motivated largely by ill will to other groups. I hope I can be better than that.

As a liberal, I’d like to get rid of PCSOs full stop. The role that they ostensibly fill is that of a probationary officer, but they do not receive the full training. I don’t have a problem with security guards at public gardens or bus stations, but coppers need to be coppers. Trained in their duties and culpable for their mistakes.

Did you just come straight out and say you wished someone would write a feminist article so you could pick holes with its methodology and stats rather than its argument?

Is English your first language?

Sunny,

Oh surprise surprise, Tim Worstall denies any sexism in the city. In other words the Pope is Catholic etc.

I don’t recall him denying there is sexism (and I’m sure there is some sexism). What he argues is that a gender pay gap may well be due to women making different choices from men and that such reports don’t explore those choices.

Who would have guessed, for example, that people who choose to work more hours might just be paid more and promoted more? /sarcasm

That is not evidence of sexism in itself. But it is presented that way, and I don’t think that helps.

It just seems funny to me that the right are all for zealous law enforcement except when it’s laws that affect them.

Personally, I would like more mobile cameras and for PCSOs to be able to use handheld devices to record speed.

One example is that a speed limit near me has just been lowered to 30mph, outside a built up area, just so a mobile camera can be put in. True, people shouldn’t speed, but that isn’t a good reason in itself for the camera, anymore than having soft drugs illegal is a good idea just to wage a war on users. Also as far as I know there are no other mobile speed cameras in use near me since this.

For me it’s not about opposing speed enforcement, but watching that it’s being used effectively and for the right reasons. This isn’t really a left/right issue in my view.

Did you just come straight out and say you wished someone would write a feminist article so you could pick holes with its methodology and stats rather than its argument?

What we have here is simply an org on the right saying that they need to set up a front that will offer their own take on civil liberties because the rest are too left-wing for them (which is rubbish anyway, none of the No2ID, Liberty etc lot identify with being on the left or right).

Besides, it keeps them away from interfering with other, more worthwhile, government initiatives

Re Peter Hitchens, he is quite strong on civil liberties. See for example this article about his encounter with aggressive riot police written months before the G20….

http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2009/01/the-onward-marc/comments/page/2/

Ah well.

I suppose there’s hope for us all.

yeah, I exaggerate.

but you know what I mean.