Needed: an exit strategy from Afghanistan


by Septicisle    
September 4, 2009 at 7:40 am

Eric Joyce’s resignation as PPS to defence minister Bob Ainsworth is to say the least, intriguing.

Joyce is most certainly on the Blairite wing of Labour, and even under Brown until recently a major loyalist, and with little chance of influencing any sort of attempt to overthrow the prime minister, it seems his decision to go is based purely on his considerable discontent over the war in Afghanistan.

Joyce sets out, while clearly trying to be as non-threatening and as lightly critical as he can while questioning the entire current strategy, that the public is not so stupid as to believe or to much longer put up with the “terrorism” justification, that we are punching way above our weight in our current operations, and that we should be able to make clear that there has to be some sort of timetable outlining just how long our commitment is both able and willing to last.

All of this should be way beyond controversy, yet already we have the ludicrous sentiment from both Bob Ainsworth and the even more ridiculous Lord West that they don’t recognise the picture which Joyce sets out (“confused and disjointed” was West described it).

The only part which it’s difficult to agree with Joyce on is his criticism of the other NATO countries’ contribution: who can possibly blame France, Germany and Italy for not wanting to spend a similar amount of both their blood and treasure to us on a war in which they can’t even begin to claim as we do that it’s preventing terrorism on their streets?

The reason why it doesn’t seem right to truly coruscate Labour over the utter cowardice of their current lack of a policy is that it’s a failure of leadership which is shared across all three of the major parties. For all their protests and attacks on the government over Afghanistan, you could barely get a cigarette paper between both the Conservatives and Lib Dems’ own ideas on what we should be doing.

All still think, at least in public, despite doubtless their private misgivings, that this is both a war that is worth fighting and one which can be “won”, whatever their own idea is of a victory.


---------------------------
     


About the author
'Septicisle' is a regular contributor to Liberal Conspiracy. He mostly blogs, poorly, over at Septicisle.info on politics and general media mendacity.
· Other posts by
Filed under
Blog ,Foreign affairs ,Realpolitik ,South Asia ,Westminster


Sorry, the comment form is closed at this time.


Reader comments


Agreed on the British establishment’s sniping at the continental countries. Their governments have tried to limit their involvement in a completely stupid, wasteful and unjustified war. Well done them. Ours, meanwhile, doesn’t seem to care how many of our young men are killed in this ridiculous mess.

The exit strategy is simple. British (or American, or French, German, Italian) troops are not a solution to anything in Afghanistan. It’s someone else’s country. Gordon Brown did not win an election there. Nor did Obama. Gordon Brown does not have the right to govern there. Or install a puppet government. Britain should leave. Immediately.


Reactions: Twitter, blogs
  1. Liberal Conspiracy

    : Needed: an exit strategy from Afghanistan http://bit.ly/2CT8pY

  2. Jonathan Sanchez

    Liberal Conspiracy » Needed: an exit strategy from Afghanistan http://bit.ly/3EESNB

  3. DesertInvasion

    Liberal Conspiracy » Needed: an exit strategy from Afghanistan: For all their protests and attacks on the govern.. http://bit.ly/RI0MQ

  4. Liberal Conspiracy

    : Needed: an exit strategy from Afghanistan http://bit.ly/2CT8pY

  5. Liberal Conspiracy » Needed: an exit strategy from Afghanistan | Afghanistan Today

    [...] ideas on what we should be doing. All still think, at least in public, … Read the original: Liberal Conspiracy » Needed: an exit strategy from Afghanistan Share and [...]

  6. Jonathan Sanchez

    Liberal Conspiracy » Needed: an exit strategy from Afghanistan http://bit.ly/3EESNB





Sorry, the comment form is closed at this time.

 
Liberal Conspiracy is the UK's most popular left-of-centre politics blog. Our aim is to re-vitalise the liberal-left through discussion and action. More about us here.

You can read articles through the front page, via Twitter or RSS feed. You can also get them by email and through our Facebook group.
RECENT OPINION ARTICLES




90 Comments



15 Comments



17 Comments



26 Comments



42 Comments



21 Comments



13 Comments



51 Comments



11 Comments



78 Comments



LATEST COMMENTS
» gastro george posted on Dorries says Osborne wanted Lansley "shot"

» Sally posted on Dorries says Osborne wanted Lansley "shot"

» Sally posted on Media finally expose problems over the NHS Bill

» Bob B posted on Media finally expose problems over the NHS Bill

» NHS London risk register exposes Tory threat to healthcare « Mike Sivier posted on The NHS London Risk Register that exposes Lansley

» Cherub posted on Dorries says Osborne wanted Lansley "shot"

» John Dyer posted on Media finally expose problems over the NHS Bill

» liane gomersall posted on Media finally expose problems over the NHS Bill

» liane gomersall posted on The NHS London Risk Register that exposes Lansley

» Carrie JS posted on Media finally expose problems over the NHS Bill

» Carrie JS posted on Media finally expose problems over the NHS Bill

» liane gomersall posted on Dorries says Osborne wanted Lansley "shot"

» Michael Connor Hawk posted on Media finally expose problems over the NHS Bill

» Michael Connor Hawk posted on Media finally expose problems over the NHS Bill

» Claire posted on Media finally expose problems over the NHS Bill