Comments on: The police and their tasers http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/21/the-police-and-their-tasers/ Left-wing news, opinion and activism Fri, 25 May 2012 17:25:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Martin http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/21/the-police-and-their-tasers/#comment-59880 Martin Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:15:32 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=7055#comment-59880 Hmmm - If we imagine a spectrum of force available to an officer, ranging from reasoned discussion to shooting dead, with that ridiculously ineffective police kung fu stuff, pava spray, baton and tazer in between, were do you expect tazer to be placed? Home office puts it just after the fisty cuffs, and before spray and baton. I would say that is the right place. It is not a last resort Having a silly, scrappy fight hurts both people involved, and will result in scrapes and bruises and sore bits that will last for days at least. Being shot with a tazer will be over in seconds, leaving you with two little bee stings. Those who are more vulnerable, with weak hearts etc, are just as likely to suffer badly when having a prolonged wrestle with three officers, or suffering the effcets of pava for 30 mins. Policing has always been violent. It is not pretty, but the police are more restrained and more likely to spend Kafka-esque lengths of time trying to reason with the un-reasonable than ever before. For an organization that spends the majority of its time forcing people to do things against their will, nasty looking violence will always play a large role in their business, like it or not. Tazer looks bloody awfull, but is far less damaging than a hard it with a baton, or even a punch in the chops. We should continue to be squeamish about, but we should not prevent the police from using a tool that will save everybody from more serious injury. Hmmm – If we imagine a spectrum of force available to an officer, ranging from reasoned discussion to shooting dead, with that ridiculously ineffective police kung fu stuff, pava spray, baton and tazer in between, were do you expect tazer to be placed?

Home office puts it just after the fisty cuffs, and before spray and baton. I would say that is the right place. It is not a last resort

Having a silly, scrappy fight hurts both people involved, and will result in scrapes and bruises and sore bits that will last for days at least. Being shot with a tazer will be over in seconds, leaving you with two little bee stings.

Those who are more vulnerable, with weak hearts etc, are just as likely to suffer badly when having a prolonged wrestle with three officers, or suffering the effcets of pava for 30 mins.

Policing has always been violent. It is not pretty, but the police are more restrained and more likely to spend Kafka-esque lengths of time trying to reason with the un-reasonable than ever before. For an organization that spends the majority of its time forcing people to do things against their will, nasty looking violence will always play a large role in their business, like it or not. Tazer looks bloody awfull, but is far less damaging than a hard it with a baton, or even a punch in the chops. We should continue to be squeamish about, but we should not prevent the police from using a tool that will save everybody from more serious injury.

]]> By: The police and their tasers http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/21/the-police-and-their-tasers/#comment-59733 The police and their tasers Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:23:35 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=7055#comment-59733 [...] Read full article > linkscolor = "000000"; highlightscolor = "888888"; backgroundcolor = "FFFFFF"; channel = "none"; Easy AdSense by Unreal [...] [...] Read full article > linkscolor = "000000"; highlightscolor = "888888"; backgroundcolor = "FFFFFF"; channel = "none"; Easy AdSense by Unreal [...]

]]> By: Daniel Hoffmann-Gill http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/21/the-police-and-their-tasers/#comment-59665 Daniel Hoffmann-Gill Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:19:15 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=7055#comment-59665 There is also a site called taserporn which collects vids of people being tasered. Cool. There is also a site called taserporn which collects vids of people being tasered.

Cool.

]]> By: Daniel Hoffmann-Gill http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/21/the-police-and-their-tasers/#comment-59547 Daniel Hoffmann-Gill Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:35:31 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=7055#comment-59547 Unfortunately, it is what the police are doing. Unfortunately, it is what the police are doing.

]]> By: Shatterface http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/21/the-police-and-their-tasers/#comment-59543 Shatterface Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:07:10 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=7055#comment-59543 'At least we’ve not reached American standards of Taser use, where they are now using them to sodomise people and placing them on people’s genitals.' What people get up to in the privacy of their own homes is no one else's business. ‘At least we’ve not reached American standards of Taser use, where they are now using them to sodomise people and placing them on people’s genitals.’

What people get up to in the privacy of their own homes is no one else’s business.

]]> By: Daniel Hoffmann-Gill http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/21/the-police-and-their-tasers/#comment-59537 Daniel Hoffmann-Gill Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:31:13 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=7055#comment-59537 At least we've not reached American standards of Taser use, where they are now using them to sodomise people and placing them on people's genitals. http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/23/idaho-police-sodomize-man-with-taser/ At least we’ve not reached American standards of Taser use, where they are now using them to sodomise people and placing them on people’s genitals.

http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/23/idaho-police-sodomize-man-with-taser/

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]]> By: Shatterface http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/21/the-police-and-their-tasers/#comment-59522 Shatterface Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:43:08 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=7055#comment-59522 I remember when refering to the police as 'shock troopers' was hyperbole. I remember when refering to the police as ‘shock troopers’ was hyperbole.

]]> By: Liberal Conspiracy http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/21/the-police-and-their-tasers/#comment-75127 Liberal Conspiracy Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:15:07 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=7055#comment-75127 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">: The police and their tasers http://bit.ly/2u8GGq</span> <div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/libcon/status/3446660033">Original tweet</a>]</div></span> : The police and their tasers http://bit.ly/2u8GGq

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