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		<title>By: organic cheeseboard</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/05/campaign-to-save-the-obs-gathers-pace/#comment-57420</link>
		<dc:creator>organic cheeseboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I agree guano. Opinion pieces are either contrarian nonsense designed to annoy, as opposed to challenge - see Barbara Ellen, Nick Cohen, Andrew Anthony; or they&#039;re there to soothe and reaffirm. There&#039;s no real challenge at all, it&#039;s all very tabloid - whatever you tihnk about the guardian&#039;s comment policy, it&#039;s a very broad spectrum, and you simply cannot say the same about the observer. Far too much nose-thumbing, and a real intellectual laziness, as well. 
as i said, I&#039;ll miss the sport coverage, and maybe the film reviews, but not much else. it feels like it&#039;s been run as a club for an in-crowd for far too long. and i&#039;m not sure I&#039;d altogether mind a sunday Grauniad, either. 

The private eye coverage of this is very interesting, incredibly pro-Obs despite the Eye having serialised flat earth News - doubtless informed by the fact that nick Cohen works for both publications...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I agree guano. Opinion pieces are either contrarian nonsense designed to annoy, as opposed to challenge &#8211; see Barbara Ellen, Nick Cohen, Andrew Anthony; or they&#8217;re there to soothe and reaffirm. There&#8217;s no real challenge at all, it&#8217;s all very tabloid &#8211; whatever you tihnk about the guardian&#8217;s comment policy, it&#8217;s a very broad spectrum, and you simply cannot say the same about the observer. Far too much nose-thumbing, and a real intellectual laziness, as well.<br />
as i said, I&#8217;ll miss the sport coverage, and maybe the film reviews, but not much else. it feels like it&#8217;s been run as a club for an in-crowd for far too long. and i&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d altogether mind a sunday Grauniad, either. </p>
<p>The private eye coverage of this is very interesting, incredibly pro-Obs despite the Eye having serialised flat earth News &#8211; doubtless informed by the fact that nick Cohen works for both publications&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Guano</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/05/campaign-to-save-the-obs-gathers-pace/#comment-57409</link>
		<dc:creator>Guano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the moment the Observer isn&#039;t worth saving. It lost its way under Alton: Nick Davies&#039; revelations about how government spin was being stove-piped onto the front page wasn&#039;t surprising, because that is the way it appeared when reading it in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq. There needed to be a re-launch if there was to be a future for the Observer, to draw a line under that period, but that hasn&#039;t happened. It still feels as if it is thumbing its nose at its core readership, rather than challenging them intelligently, and it cannot go on doing that indefinitely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the moment the Observer isn&#8217;t worth saving. It lost its way under Alton: Nick Davies&#8217; revelations about how government spin was being stove-piped onto the front page wasn&#8217;t surprising, because that is the way it appeared when reading it in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq. There needed to be a re-launch if there was to be a future for the Observer, to draw a line under that period, but that hasn&#8217;t happened. It still feels as if it is thumbing its nose at its core readership, rather than challenging them intelligently, and it cannot go on doing that indefinitely.</p>
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		<title>By: WhatNext?!</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/05/campaign-to-save-the-obs-gathers-pace/#comment-57385</link>
		<dc:creator>WhatNext?!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of the problem, surely, is the fat-cat pay levels and ludicrous over-staffing. GMG employees should take a less materialistic and selfish view of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the problem, surely, is the fat-cat pay levels and ludicrous over-staffing. GMG employees should take a less materialistic and selfish view of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/05/campaign-to-save-the-obs-gathers-pace/#comment-57373</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bring back Tiny Rowland!

&quot;We apologise for last week&#039;s story about Dr Hastings Banda in which we implied he was not universally beloved by the people of Malawi and had engaged in unorthodox financial practices, an allegation which we now accept to be wholly untrue following interference from our proprietor.&quot;

&lt;i&gt;Donald - lose the last five words or you&#039;re sacked.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bring back Tiny Rowland!</p>
<p>&#8220;We apologise for last week&#8217;s story about Dr Hastings Banda in which we implied he was not universally beloved by the people of Malawi and had engaged in unorthodox financial practices, an allegation which we now accept to be wholly untrue following interference from our proprietor.&#8221;</p>
<p><i>Donald &#8211; lose the last five words or you&#8217;re sacked.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/05/campaign-to-save-the-obs-gathers-pace/#comment-57275</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely the best way to &#039;save the observer&#039; is to start buying it every week?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely the best way to &#8216;save the observer&#8217; is to start buying it every week?</p>
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		<title>By: organic cheeseboard</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/05/campaign-to-save-the-obs-gathers-pace/#comment-57195</link>
		<dc:creator>organic cheeseboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;d have no particular problem with a 7 day guardian. the obs lost it with alton and never really got it back.

there&#039;s also far too much dead wood - anthony and cohen spring to mind, but robert mccrum is the textbook example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;d have no particular problem with a 7 day guardian. the obs lost it with alton and never really got it back.</p>
<p>there&#8217;s also far too much dead wood &#8211; anthony and cohen spring to mind, but robert mccrum is the textbook example.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Worstall</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/05/campaign-to-save-the-obs-gathers-pace/#comment-57175</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 08:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The basic aim is to move to a 7 day Guardian. This has been desired (well, desired by some at least) for a number of years.

Whether you think this is a good idea or bad, well, that&#039;s up to you. But that is indeed the aim of those &quot;reconsidering the Observer&#039;s position&quot;.

Brought to you from a very reliable source indeed inside The Observer. Not that it&#039;s exactly been a secret for some time....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The basic aim is to move to a 7 day Guardian. This has been desired (well, desired by some at least) for a number of years.</p>
<p>Whether you think this is a good idea or bad, well, that&#8217;s up to you. But that is indeed the aim of those &#8220;reconsidering the Observer&#8217;s position&#8221;.</p>
<p>Brought to you from a very reliable source indeed inside The Observer. Not that it&#8217;s exactly been a secret for some time&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: cjcjc</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/05/campaign-to-save-the-obs-gathers-pace/#comment-57167</link>
		<dc:creator>cjcjc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 08:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s got the huge losses of the Guardian to contend with first.
Apparently the Scott Trust&#039;s primary duty is the well-being of the Guardian, and the Guardian alone.

So far the large profits from Emap and AutoTrader, helped along by some good tax planning of course in alliance with private equity firm Apax - those Guardianistas are not strong on consistency - have been more than enough for both Guardian and Observer, but obviously times are tougher now.

(Of course the Scott Trust itself is the result of inheritance tax avoidance.
What would Richard Murphy think?!)

One would imagine that the golden goose of public sector job adverts might be laying fewer eggs in the future too.

Still I look forward to seeing Seumas Milne on the picket line.

My favourite Private Eye story - which sums guardianista-ness up in a nutshell - is that Rusbridger cycles to work each morning but has his bike taxi-ed back home in the evening as he goes out elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s got the huge losses of the Guardian to contend with first.<br />
Apparently the Scott Trust&#8217;s primary duty is the well-being of the Guardian, and the Guardian alone.</p>
<p>So far the large profits from Emap and AutoTrader, helped along by some good tax planning of course in alliance with private equity firm Apax &#8211; those Guardianistas are not strong on consistency &#8211; have been more than enough for both Guardian and Observer, but obviously times are tougher now.</p>
<p>(Of course the Scott Trust itself is the result of inheritance tax avoidance.<br />
What would Richard Murphy think?!)</p>
<p>One would imagine that the golden goose of public sector job adverts might be laying fewer eggs in the future too.</p>
<p>Still I look forward to seeing Seumas Milne on the picket line.</p>
<p>My favourite Private Eye story &#8211; which sums guardianista-ness up in a nutshell &#8211; is that Rusbridger cycles to work each morning but has his bike taxi-ed back home in the evening as he goes out elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis Enrique</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/05/campaign-to-save-the-obs-gathers-pace/#comment-57165</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Enrique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a non-profit left-wing entity like GMG cannot &quot;save&quot; a loss-making business, there&#039;s no hope that the like of Vestas will</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a non-profit left-wing entity like GMG cannot &#8220;save&#8221; a loss-making business, there&#8217;s no hope that the like of Vestas will</p>
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		<title>By: Liberal Conspiracy &#187; Save the Observer? Why exactly? &#124; creating a new liberal-left alliance</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/05/campaign-to-save-the-obs-gathers-pace/#comment-57164</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberal Conspiracy &#187; Save the Observer? Why exactly? &#124; creating a new liberal-left alliance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why exactly? by Sunny H &#160; &#160;  August 5, 2009 at 8:45 am There&#8217;s a campaign to save the Observer newspaper after reports over the weekend that GMG might shut down the loss-making paper. Other than [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Why exactly? by Sunny H &nbsp; &nbsp;  August 5, 2009 at 8:45 am There&#8217;s a campaign to save the Observer newspaper after reports over the weekend that GMG might shut down the loss-making paper. Other than [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ernie Varitimos</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/05/campaign-to-save-the-obs-gathers-pace/#comment-76551</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernie Varitimos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 04:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Liberal Conspiracy » Campaign to &#039;save the Obs&#039; gathers pace ... http://bit.ly/wNPWU&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/journalism_/status/3139447094&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Liberal Conspiracy » Campaign to &#8216;save the Obs&#8217; gathers pace &#8230; <a href="http://bit.ly/wNPWU" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/wNPWU</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/journalism_/status/3139447094">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Justin McKeating</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/05/campaign-to-save-the-obs-gathers-pace/#comment-76550</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin McKeating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Let it rot...  http://bit.ly/FIJVU&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/chickyog/status/3141910946&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Let it rot&#8230;  <a href="http://bit.ly/FIJVU" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/FIJVU</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/chickyog/status/3141910946">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: anotherwhitemug.com</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/05/campaign-to-save-the-obs-gathers-pace/#comment-76552</link>
		<dc:creator>anotherwhitemug.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 00:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Liberal Conspiracy » Campaign to &#039;save the Obs&#039; gathers pace ...- Jimbo posted on Exploitation right un... http://bit.ly/qbMZa&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/anotherwhitemug/status/3135295088&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Liberal Conspiracy » Campaign to &#8216;save the Obs&#8217; gathers pace &#8230;- Jimbo posted on Exploitation right un&#8230; <a href="http://bit.ly/qbMZa" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/qbMZa</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/anotherwhitemug/status/3135295088">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Liberal Conspiracy</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/05/campaign-to-save-the-obs-gathers-pace/#comment-76553</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberal Conspiracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;: Campaign to &#039;save the Obs&#039; gathers pace http://bit.ly/7Ws74&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/libcon/status/3134043977&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">: Campaign to &#8216;save the Obs&#8217; gathers pace <a href="http://bit.ly/7Ws74" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/7Ws74</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/libcon/status/3134043977">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Ernie Varitimos</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/05/campaign-to-save-the-obs-gathers-pace/#comment-81779</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernie Varitimos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Liberal Conspiracy » Campaign to &#039;save the Obs&#039; gathers pace ... http://bit.ly/wNPWU&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Liberal Conspiracy » Campaign to &#8216;save the Obs&#8217; gathers pace &#8230; <a href="http://bit.ly/wNPWU" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/wNPWU</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: anotherwhitemug.com</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/05/campaign-to-save-the-obs-gathers-pace/#comment-78989</link>
		<dc:creator>anotherwhitemug.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Liberal Conspiracy » Campaign to &#039;save the Obs&#039; gathers pace ...- Jimbo posted on Exploitation right un... http://bit.ly/qbMZa&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Liberal Conspiracy » Campaign to &#8216;save the Obs&#8217; gathers pace &#8230;- Jimbo posted on Exploitation right un&#8230; <a href="http://bit.ly/qbMZa" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/qbMZa</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Liberal Conspiracy</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/08/05/campaign-to-save-the-obs-gathers-pace/#comment-79844</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberal Conspiracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>: Campaign to &#039;save the Obs&#039; gathers pace http://bit.ly/7Ws74</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>: Campaign to &#8216;save the Obs&#8217; gathers pace <a href="http://bit.ly/7Ws74" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/7Ws74</a></p>
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